Denny, Maxiep, Shooter and others delusional?!?

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MSNBC host Martin Bashir interviewed Stanton Peele, a psychologist and an "expert on addiction," this afternoon. Bashir urged Peele to psychologically evaluate supporters of the Tea Party. "It reminds us of addiction because addicts are seeking something that they can't have," Peele said. "They want a state of happiness or nirvana that can't be achieved except through an artificial substance and reminds us of the Norway situation, when people are thwarted at obtaining something they can't, have they often strike out and Norway is one kind of example to one kind of reaction to that kind of a frustration."

Bashir later asked: "So you're saying that they are delusional about the past and adamant about the future?"

"They are adamant about achieving something that's unachievable, which reminds us of a couple of things. It reminds us of delusion and psychosis," Peele responded.

Here's Bashir's full exchange:

BASHIR: What is the effect giving people their way all of the time? How does it shape our thinking behavior if by being adamant and dogmatic we get our way?

PEELE: Well, the way I think about it is they are pursuing goals that can't be achieved. It's sort of like a child who has some kind of fantasy, and they keep asking you to give them things to acquire that, but it's impossible to arrive at the goal that they want. The idyllic paths that they are pursuing probably never existed and certainly not something we can reach right now.

BASHIR: So you're saying that they are delusional about the past and adamant about the future?

PEELE: They are adamant about achieving something that's unachievable, which reminds us of a couple of things. it reminds us of delusion and psychosis. It reminds us of addiction because addicts are seeking something that they can't have. They want a state of happiness or nirvana that can't be achieved except through an artificial substance and reminds us of the Norway situation, when people are thwarted at obtaining something they can't, have they often strike out and Norway is one kind of example to one kind of reaction to that kind of a frustration.

BASHIR: But going back to the Tea Party in this country. Do you think that having achieved their goal, no new taxes. instead of this actually making them think about compromise in the future? It's actually simply going to harden them so this kind of battle this, kind of standoff, this kind of face-off is just going to become routine in Washington.

PEELE: Well, i'm looking at one beyond. they want no new taxes because they seek some kind of idyllic past. No new taxes won't bring them, won't bring them economic recovery so they will have to turn their attention to some other supposed method of attaining that until they go through all of them. Perhaps they can push through all of them. perhaps people become discontented and perhaps they will become discontented and people are likely to get riled up, and it could become a very angry movement could, potentially become a violent movement.




Link w/ video here - http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...l-tea-partiers-addicts-delusional_581987.html




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I've always thought so :)

barfo
 
I don't want new taxes because if they raise $1T in revenue, they'll increase spending by $2T.

I'd be for new taxes if they raise $1T in revenue and cut $15T in spending.

Numbers are over a 10 year period.
 
I don't want new taxes because if they raise $1T in revenue, they'll increase spending by $2T.

I'd be for new taxes if they raise $1T in revenue and cut $15T in spending.

Numbers are over a 10 year period.

You totally missed the point of the article.

Tea Party members want to get drunk and go shoot up post offices.
 
bashir is a fucking scam artist. :tsktsk: dealt with his camp a few years ago, he routinely invents stories.
 
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I'd love to see the psychological profile on obama supporters before the election.

the phrase "delusions of grandeur" come to mind.

fuck, this board's basically exists because I basically was making fun of Obama and a few mods on BBF couldn't handle it and went batshit insane.
 
fuck, this board's basically exists because I basically was making fun of Obama and a few mods on BBF couldn't handle it and went batshit insane.

"the phrase "delusions of grandeur" come to mind."

I don't think that's exactly the way it happened. More like you were being a gigantic ass for weeks on end, and Hap got pissed off and moved all the political threads to some other forum. Then some laker mods decided to come in and tell everyone who was unhappy about that, that blazer fans should just shut up and do what they are told...

You were the spark. But you weren't the flame. And ABM was the one who pointed to the fire exit.

barfo
 
I was exposing Obama to be the fraud he has proven himself to be.
 
I was exposing Obama to be the fraud he has proven himself to be.

Exposing to who? Those who agree with that now agreed with that then. Those who didn't, still don't.

All these words, and none of us have convinced anyone of anything. Either we aren't very convincing, or we aren't very convincible. Or both.

barfo
 
I can't read what barfo is posting, but I'm sure it's dull, redundant, and biased. :MARIS61:
 
Exposing to who? Those who agree with that now agreed with that then. Those who didn't, still don't.

All these words, and none of us have convinced anyone of anything. Either we aren't very convincing, or we aren't very convincible. Or both.

barfo

i disagree.
 
Obama went from "Change and Hope" to "oh its just Bush's fault..so don't blame me".

Its not going to "switch sides" for anyone here...but you cannot say with a straight face that he has met your expectations or even come close to fulfilling the hype machine that swept him into office. I can, however. In a laughingly bad way.
 
the best thing about this all is the more and more the libs froth over how "stupid" the tea party is, the stronger there's going to get. people thought they were done after the midterm elections but they're still relevant.
 
Obama went from "Change and Hope" to "oh its just Bush's fault..so don't blame me".

Its not going to "switch sides" for anyone here...but you cannot say with a straight face that he has met your expectations or even come close to fulfilling the hype machine that swept him into office. I can, however. In a laughingly bad way.

Sure I can. He's about what I expected (one of the advantages of being old is that you have a better idea of what's within the realm of the possible). And so on balance I'm not disappointed. Could I have wished for more? Definitely. But I knew he was a politician, not Jesus, going in.

As for the hype machine, he's neither as good or as bad as the two hype machines would have it. He's not Jesus, but he's not Satan either.

barfo
 
the best thing about this all is the more and more the libs froth over how "stupid" the tea party is, the stronger there's going to get. people thought they were done after the midterm elections but they're still relevant.

According to the polls, most Americans blame the tea party more than anyone else for the recent unpleasantness. That doesn't bode well for their relevance.

barfo
 
Yeah. heaven forbid they stand up for themselves.

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Yeah. heaven forbid they stand up for themselves.

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Well, supposedly they weren't standing up for themselves, but rather for the halfwits that elected them.

But the majority of Americans didn't elect them. Not even close. So it seems reasonable that most people could disapprove of them standing up for whatever it was that they thought they were standing up for.

barfo
 
idiots with ideals and against the establishment trumps lifelong politicians and the system that has not worked
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idiots with ideals and against the establishment trumps lifelong politicians and the system that has not worked
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Doesn't appear that way. Looks to me like the system won.

barfo
 

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