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So I was reading the story about Miles on ESPN, and I'm left wondering if maybe Darius has been playing us all for fools. Has he been sand bagging for the last few seasons, convincing the team that he can't play? Did he play up his injury to convince the team to retire him?

Right now he's getting the full sum of his contract with the Blazers, he's getting a deal with the Celtics, and he could potentially get another deal in a year if he plays well in Boston.

I just really doubt that KP would have retired Miles if he didn't really think that Darius was done.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So I was reading the story about Miles on ESPN, and I'm left wondering if maybe Darius has been playing us all for fools. Has he been sand bagging for the last few seasons, convincing the team that he can't play? Did he play up his injury to convince the team to retire him?

Right now he's getting the full sum of his contract with the Blazers, he's getting a deal with the Celtics, and he could potentially get another deal in a year if he plays well in Boston.

I just really doubt that KP would have retired Miles if he didn't really think that Darius was done.
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Didn't an independent doctor determine he suffered a career ending injury? Or was said doctor possibly "on the take?"
 
Xericx said:
don't care. happy he's gone.
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In fairness to the intent of this post, Miles may be gone in a physical state, but he's not yet gone in a financial one.

Though I will agree I'm glad his gone in a physical state, I hate him ALMOST as much as I hate Bonzi. But that's a different thread discussion entirely.
 
Didn't an independent doctor determine he suffered a career ending injury? Or was said doctor possibly "on the take?"
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And I convinced a doctor when I was 12 that I had fractured my wrist when I had, in fact, done nothing of the sort. Doctors can be fooled.

Xericx said:
don't care. happy he's gone.
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You should, if he plays this season he'll cost us roughly 9 million. This isn't a dead issue.
 
Xericx said:
the money won't be used for anything useful for this season. it will come off the books when we need to re-up a guy like Roy.
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No Eric, it's part of the cap space we had figured on at the end of this season.
 
I wouldn't put it past Darius if he played the team . . . he never was really a Ptd guy. But I think KP wanted him out of here anyways. he didn't want Darius around the core he has built.

So it makes me wonder, did the Blazers push him out (which would justify Miles trying a comeback) or as you said did Miles play the Blazers by convincing them he was done so he could go play for the team of his choice (I could see an agent planting that seed).
 
Xericx said:
imaginary cap space. no reasonable target, cap space is wasted. we'll save it to re-up our main guys.

who would you target then?
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Some people wouldn't want the person I would target :grin:
 
Natebishop3 said:
So I was reading the story about Miles on ESPN, and I'm left wondering if maybe Darius has been playing us all for fools. Has he been sand bagging for the last few seasons, convincing the team that he can't play? Did he play up his injury to convince the team to retire him?

Right now he's getting the full sum of his contract with the Blazers, he's getting a deal with the Celtics, and he could potentially get another deal in a year if he plays well in Boston.

I just really doubt that KP would have retired Miles if he didn't really think that Darius was done.
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A) If I recall, Miles had some productive games before his injuries.
2) It's pretty hard to fake injuries to the extent that an independent doctor deems it career ending. The doctor doesn't simply ask Darius how he feels.
e) He underperformed for two other teams, not just us. The simplest explanation is he was a slacker, not a master illusionist. I don't give Miles that much credit.
D) I'm not convinced his comeback is going to happen.
1.45) I don't really care one way or another, he's gone, we have a good team, yay.
 
Of course Darius played us...just like he played the Cavs and Clips before us. He probably played his high-school coach too. I just hope he stays true to form and messes up the Celts.
 
BTW, did you catch that Miles told ESPN he had "no idea" how he flunked a drug test?

He also indicated that he decided not to appeal, since the suspension will only cost him 1/8th of his *Boston* contract. It doesn't impact what the Blazers owe him. Whatta guy! :doh:
 
I'm not convinced that we can't appeal for cap relief even if he plays 10 games. His injury was deemed "career ending" because both the team physician and a physician hired by the League saw the same thing: If he continued to play on knees with deteriorating cartilage he risked multiple knee replacements over his lifetime. The bottom line is he can play on his knees, but he's playing on them against the advice of not one, but multiple physicians.

Portland shouldn't be held responsible for his choice to destroy his knee joints.
 
Keep in mind that said target supposedly did a lot of bonding with Coach Nate this summer. Recently there was mention of the 2 of them scouting the Spanish team in Beijing, Noted Target being the only player to go with the coaches and apparently sat with Coach Nate
 
Opening night he will literally RIP off Bynums head! That would have to make ESPN's top 10!
 
Natebishop3 said:
So I was reading the story about Miles on ESPN, and I'm left wondering if maybe Darius has been playing us all for fools. Has he been sand bagging for the last few seasons, convincing the team that he can't play? Did he play up his injury to convince the team to retire him?

Right now he's getting the full sum of his contract with the Blazers, he's getting a deal with the Celtics, and he could potentially get another deal in a year if he plays well in Boston.

I just really doubt that KP would have retired Miles if he didn't really think that Darius was done.
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It's the other way around. We played HIM. All season long, he told us he was ready to play. He wanted to play. But we wanted him gone. So we got someone to say his knee injury was season ending so that we could get rid of him. We played him. He wanted to play and said so many times.
 
The Celts have a full roster, I wouldn't be surprised to see Miles waived eventually. If I were Boston, I'd make room for Bill Walker over Darius.
 
KingSpeed said:
It's the other way around. We played HIM. All season long, he told us he was ready to play. He wanted to play. But we wanted him gone. So we got someone to say his knee injury was season ending so that we could get rid of him. We played him. He wanted to play and said so many times.
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I'd say that's possible if it weren't for the fact that independently appointed physicians (approved by both the league and players' association) said his injury was career ending, couple that with the fact that more than one person outside of the team had observed him "practicing" and noted that he could barely jump or would be fine one day and be unable to go the next, etc. and I'd say it's a fair bet that Darius' knees are pretty well shot

If anything I think both sides might have been doing a little dancing around on this issue, with Darius probably wanting to play, but not really being physically there, and the team clearly ready to move on and wanting to get rid of him.

Frankly I won't be convinced that he's back and ready to go until I see it with my own two eyes.
 
The celtics added Cassell back, and I was reading yesterday about PJ Brown. Brown says he's not coming back, but Ainge says there's always a spot for him, even if he comes back in February. For that to be true, the C's would have to cut someone, or leave an empty roster spot all season. Neither of those meshes with having Darius Miles on the team.

I really really want that cap space.
 
I seriously would laugh my ass off if Darius tripped in practice and fell into KG or Paul Pierce and knocked them out for a few months.

I never wish for injury on another player, but that would be karma kicking Danny Ainge square in the nuts.

I still can't get over the fact the little weasel wasted a roster spot on his squad just so he could potentially stick it to another team's cap flexibility. PATHETIC.

-Pop
 
Natebishop3 said:
So I was reading the story about Miles on ESPN, and I'm left wondering if maybe Darius has been playing us all for fools. Has he been sand bagging for the last few seasons, convincing the team that he can't play? Did he play up his injury to convince the team to retire him?

Right now he's getting the full sum of his contract with the Blazers, he's getting a deal with the Celtics, and he could potentially get another deal in a year if he plays well in Boston.

I just really doubt that KP would have retired Miles if he didn't really think that Darius was done.
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Why would he? What would he have to gain?
 
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