Dinosaurs and man coexisting

[Denny Crane]

LOL at the blank paper.

If you aren't getting pure LSD, the speed and strychnine they cut it with is really good for you. Have another superman dose!

 

[magnifier661]

LOL at the blank paper.

If you aren't getting pure LSD, the speed and strychnine they cut it with is really good for you. Have another superman dose!

Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First off; do you even understand the pharmacology? You using another bullshit scare tactic by the government? There is no strychnine in the LSD process.

You are a fucking noob that has zero understanding of LSD!

http://science.howstuffworks.com/lsd2.htm

Strychnine
Anti-drug educators frequently tell their students some variant on the theme of inevitable strychnine poisoning through LSD use, for example, that strychnine is commonly sold as a cheaper substitute for LSD by unscrupulous drug dealers; that strychnine is a byproduct of LSD synthesis; that the body produces strychnine as a result of LSD metabolism; or that strychnine is used as a preservative to prevent the otherwise natural, rapid decomposition of LSD, allowing it to be stored; or that strychnine is somehow necessary to bond LSD to blotter paper. None of this is true.[29] These claims may even be believed and propagated by drug users themselves. In reality, most hallucinogens cause some degree of mental or physical discomfort after the "trip" is over. This is an indirect effect of the drug,[29] not strychnine or any other adulterant. Additionally, strychnine itself is one of the most bitter substances known. The bitter taste can be detected at 1 part per million, which is well below the toxic level.[29] Finally, the dangerous dose of strychnine is too high to be contained in a blotter square, even if the entire square were composed of the poison.[29]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_misconceptions_about_illegal_drugs

 

[magnifier661]

Denny look up the sandoz actual government patent. It lays out the entire LSD synthesis; giving all precursor chemicals, rates and process. Show me where they use strychnine in this process....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Denny look up the sandoz actual government patent. It lays out the entire LSD synthesis; giving all precursor chemicals, rates and process. Show me where they use strychnine in this process....

Strychnine is used to bind it to blotter paper. If you take LSD in liquid form there is no strychnine. If you take it on tabs of paper there is strychnine.

 

[magnifier661]

Strychnine is used to bind it to blotter paper. If you take LSD in liquid form there is no strychnine. If you take it on tabs of paper there is strychnine.

Not true. LSD crystal is put into solution with everclear and laid on sheets on tin foil. Who told you that? If that were the case, then the paper would be bitter. Never had bitter blotter

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not true. LSD crystal is put into solution with everclear and laid on sheets on tin foil. Who told you that? If that were the case, then the paper would be bitter. Never had bitter blotter

Why are you doing blotter? The best way to do LSD is in liquid form with an eyedropper directly in your eye.

 

[magnifier661]

Why are you doing blotter? The best way to do LSD is in liquid form with an eyedropper directly in your eye.

I have droppers too. Blotters are awesome! And dropping in your eye is a bad idea. It's soluble in alcohol. Have you dropped 95% ethanol in your eye?

 

[Further]

Ok, a few of my thoughts on LSD.

First, I have done it quite a few times when I was younger, from small to large doses. I know a ton of people who have done a bunch, and for the most part, they only end up more introspective and caring. But there was one man I knew 20 years ago. He had taken an unknown quantity, but it was hundreds of hit. I knew him a couple years after the incident and he was a wreck. He could not hold a job, remember to shower and would sometimes come to in different cities he didn't know he had traveled to. I only knew him for about 9 months, so perhaps he recovered, but I doubt it. Also, I had a friend who's dog chewed up a book of acid (1000 hits) and after about three weeks of hoping he would return to a more normal state, he had to be put down because he was violent.

In both those cases, the dosages were off the charts. For most people, taking a reasonable amount, I believe it's something that could be very beneficial.

 

[Denny Crane]

I had a roommate who ate a baggie full of blotter acid. He called himself an ambulance after about an hour and ended up in the hospital for days. He needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face.

But I read on the internet in posts by people who take it that it's harmless. So it must be harmless.

You'd think the brain would still make synapses while you're under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug. All normal, of course.

People smoke for years and because they're not dead they think they're immune.

And if you want to know what taking LSD every weekend for 40 years will do to you, try to read jlprk's posts.

If you want to know what taking LSD 2-3 times a week for 40 years will do, read MARIS61's.

 

[magnifier661]

I had a roommate who ate a baggie full of blotter acid. He called himself an ambulance after about an hour and ended up in the hospital for days. He needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face.

But I read on the internet in posts by people who take it that it's harmless. So it must be harmless.

You'd think the brain would still make synapses while you're under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug. All normal, of course.

People smoke for years and because they're not dead they think they're immune.

And if you want to know what taking LSD every weekend for 40 years will do to you, try to read jlprk's posts.

If you want to know what taking LSD 2-3 times a week for 40 years will do, read MARIS61's.

Excessive use of any drug will do damage. Over drinking can ruin your kidneys and liver. With moderation and responsibility, it is harmless

 

[Further]

I had a roommate who ate a baggie full of blotter acid. He called himself an ambulance after about an hour and ended up in the hospital for days. He needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face.

But I read on the internet in posts by people who take it that it's harmless. So it must be harmless.

You'd think the brain would still make synapses while you're under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug. All normal, of course.

People smoke for years and because they're not dead they think they're immune.

And if you want to know what taking LSD every weekend for 40 years will do to you, try to read jlprk's posts.

If you want to know what taking LSD 2-3 times a week for 40 years will do, read MARIS61's.

Yes, but if you want to know what never taking it does, read MarAzul's posts.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Oh god, this thread has gotten so much more entertaining. Please carry on.

 

[magnifier661]

Oh god, this thread has gotten so much more entertaining. Please carry on.

What you don't realize is the dinosaur's sold mushrooms to the homosapiens

 

[jlprk]

And if you want to know what taking LSD every weekend for 40 years will do to you, try to read jlprk's posts.

If you overdo, you'll get hurt or hurt others...for example, starting wars or defending them years later. You've had 12 years to learn from your errors but have not.

 

[jlprk]

I've only read the thread's last page, but here are the themes so far.

 

[Further]

http://imgflip.com/memegenerator

 

[MARIS61]

I had a roommate who ate a baggie full of blotter acid. He called himself an ambulance after about an hour and ended up in the hospital for days. He needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face.

What a load of bullshit.

And if you want to know what taking LSD every weekend for 40 years will do to you, try to read jlprk's posts.

So you think his genius comes from taking LSD? I'm fairly certain he was always a genius.

If you want to know what taking LSD 2-3 times a week for 40 years will do, read MARIS61's.

Since my last LSD trip was travelled way back in 1976, I must not only be much older than I thought I was, I must have started in 1936 when my parents were 8 year olds.

All your posts ever contain anymore are childish taunts and personal insults, mostly just shit you make up with no factual basis. Maybe that "friend" of yours who needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face is YOU?

 

[MARIS61]

From Denny Crane's link:

Some notable individuals have commented publicly on their experiences with LSD.[118][119] Some of these comments date from the era when it was legally available in the US and Europe for non-medical uses, and others pertain to psychiatric treatment in the 1950s and 1960s. Still others describe experiences with illegal LSD, obtained for philosophic, artistic, therapeutic, spiritual, or recreational purposes.

Dock Ellis, pitching for the Pittsburgh Pirates, threw a no-hitter against the San Diego Padres on June 12, 1970 while under the influence of LSD.
Italian film director Federico Fellini experimented with LSD under the supervision of his psychoanalyst Emilio Servadio in 1964.
Richard Feynman, a notable physicist at California Institute of Technology, tried LSD during his professorship at Caltech. Feynman largely sidestepped the issue when dictating his anecdotes; he mentions it in passing in the "O Americano, Outra Vez" section.[120][121]
Jerry Garcia stated in a July 3rd, 1989 interview for Relix Magazine, in response to the question "Have your feelings about LSD changed over the years?", "They haven’t changed much. My feelings about LSD are mixed. It’s something that I both fear and that I love at the same time. I never take any psychedelic, have a psychedelic experience, without having that feeling of, “I don’t know what’s going to happen.” In that sense, it’s still fundamentally an enigma and a mystery."[122]
Bill Gates implied in an interview with Playboy that he tried LSD during his youth.[123]
Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, became a user of psychedelics after moving to Hollywood. He was at the forefront of the counterculture's experimentation with psychedelic drugs, which led to his 1954 work The Doors of Perception. Dying from cancer, he asked his wife on 22 November 1963 to inject him with 100 µg of LSD. He died later that day.[124]
Steve Jobs, co-founder and former CEO of Apple Inc., said, "Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life."[125]
In a 2004 interview, Paul McCartney said that The Beatles' songs "Day Tripper" and "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" are about LSD, although John Lennon explicitly declared that "Lucy" was never about LSD but rather inspired by a picture drawn by his son Julian.[126][127] John Lennon, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr also experimented with the drug, although McCartney cautioned that "it's easy to overestimate the influence of drugs on the Beatles' music."[128]
Kary Mullis is reported to credit LSD with helping him develop DNA amplification technology, for which he received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993.

 

[Denny Crane]

And jlprk and MARIS61 prove my point. Thanks guys!

FWIW, it's all in fun.

In any case.

Dock Ellis died at age 63 of a liver ailment.

I seriously doubt he pitched on LSD, but like all people who use drugs he felt he could handle it. He had to bat at least 3 times, which would have been scary enough if sober.

After going through rehab himself, he became an advocate for getting people off drugs.

 

[jlprk]

I had a roommate who ate a baggie full of blotter acid. He called himself an ambulance after about an hour and ended up in the hospital for days. He needs a nurse now to wipe the drool from his face.

But I read on the internet in posts by people who take it that it's harmless. So it must be harmless.

Please tell us more about your "roommate." This will be the first drooling case in LSD history. I've never heard of such a thing. Eating way too much acid will certainly have a deletrious effect for a few days. But any lifetime insanity was already present before, and the cause of, the person swallowing an insane amount to begin with.

Had you already driven your imaginary roommate insane with your imaginary friends?

Dock Ellis wasn't half the player Roger Maris was.

 

[crandc]

Never used LSD...

But back to original topic, magnifier, you have expressed interest in biology/geology classes. May I also suggest population biology? It would answer the question as to why one lone (or two or three) stegosaurus, or bigfoot, or Loch Ness monster, could not survive in some obscure corner of the globe. Very briefly, lack of genetic diversity means the end of a species. It's why endangered species, when they get below a critical number of individuals, are doomed to inevitable extinction. Incidentally, it's also the reason why monoculture in agriculture and stock raising requires huge doses of pesticides/antibiotics, they are all alike, they lose vigor and resistance. And why I think the opponents of GMO foods are attacking the wrong thing; the problem is not anything inherently unwholesome in the individual plant but the continuing loss of genetic diversity. Fascinating subject and highly relevant to real world issues.

 

[Denny Crane]

Please tell us more about your "roommate." This will be the first drooling case in LSD history. I've never heard of such a thing. Eating way too much acid will certainly have a deletrious effect for a few days. But any lifetime insanity was already present before, and the cause of, the person swallowing an insane amount to begin with.

Had you already driven your imaginary roommate insane with your imaginary friends?

Dock Ellis wasn't half the player Roger Maris was.

He was a drug dealer. I jokingly called the place Phil's Pharmacy because he had a lot of pharmaceutical drugs in giant bottles like at the drug store.

What can I say other than he never came back from it. I read a number of similar stories on drug users' message boards yesterday.

They also talk about adding strychnine and speed. For one, LSD is difficult and expensive to make. The strychnine has a hallucinogenic effect in low doses. People even do strychnine alone. The speed is to keep you awake for the trip. People taking pure LSD talked about falling asleep during the first 20 minutes and having wild dreams. A lot of the time, people take it again after being sleep deprived from their previous dose.

 

[magnifier661]

Never used LSD...

But back to original topic, magnifier, you have expressed interest in biology/geology classes. May I also suggest population biology? It would answer the question as to why one lone (or two or three) stegosaurus, or bigfoot, or Loch Ness monster, could not survive in some obscure corner of the globe. Very briefly, lack of genetic diversity means the end of a species. It's why endangered species, when they get below a critical number of individuals, are doomed to inevitable extinction. Incidentally, it's also the reason why monoculture in agriculture and stock raising requires huge doses of pesticides/antibiotics, they are all alike, they lose vigor and resistance. And why I think the opponents of GMO foods are attacking the wrong thing; the problem is not anything inherently unwholesome in the individual plant but the continuing loss of genetic diversity. Fascinating subject and highly relevant to real world issues.

Very good points and I agree. The best resistance of pests is a healthy plant. Over fertilization, without proper nutrient balance is going to ruin this planet.

I also understand about "extinction". I do agree that present day is without dinosaurs. I am just thinking it could be a possibility that they existed a couple hundred thousand years ago. The extreme climate change and hunting could have cause species to become extinct. The concept of the animals could be passed down from generation to generation. It may not happened either. I'm just not going to rule it out.

Gmo modifications can really fuck this planet up. I understand that mutations take place everyday, or we wouldn't get the flu or cold every year. But the mutations are happening at a natural occurrence. When we mutate in a test tube, we aren't taking into account of surroundings and how one mutation can effect the entire ecosystem. Us playing God is very dangerous,IMO

 

[Denny Crane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture

 

[magnifier661]

He was a drug dealer. I jokingly called the place Phil's Pharmacy because he had a lot of pharmaceutical drugs in giant bottles like at the drug store.

What can I say other than he never came back from it. I read a number of similar stories on drug users' message boards yesterday.

They also talk about adding strychnine and speed. For one, LSD is difficult and expensive to make. The strychnine has a hallucinogenic effect in low doses. People even do strychnine alone. The speed is to keep you awake for the trip. People taking pure LSD talked about falling asleep during the first 20 minutes and having wild dreams. A lot of the time, people take it again after being sleep deprived from their previous dose.

Have you ever thought the other drugs he had in possession could have caused this mental state? As heroin did to many of the hippy culture of the 60's.

Also, keep in mind that a blotter of acid can only absorb 2.5mg of components. Speed requires doses of at least 10mg to hit baseline. Taking 1mg wouldn't do anything to you. As for strychnine... This was a wives tale that rumored because some acid would give headaches or back pains. Those are natural side effects on "impure acid". But the impurities were because they didn't spin the impurities of the process out.

I understand your concern because the urban legends seem as real as the nails on your fingers. But in order to really understand the substance, I hope you take the same advice you tell me every time we debate cosmology. Learn about the substance, reading "pharmacology of LSD". It's a very informative book; compiled of government and medical studies regarding the substance. It isn't biased. It's just information and trials.

 

[Denny Crane]

Have you ever thought the other drugs he had in possession could have caused this mental state? As heroin did to many of the hippy culture of the 60's.

Also, keep in mind that a blotter of acid can only absorb 2.5mg of components. Speed requires doses of at least 10mg to hit baseline. Taking 1mg wouldn't do anything to you. As for strychnine... This was a wives tale that rumored because some acid would give headaches or back pains. Those are natural side effects on "impure acid". But the impurities were because they didn't spin the impurities of the process out.

I understand your concern because the urban legends seem as real as the nails on your fingers. But in order to really understand the substance, I hope you take the same advice you tell me every time we debate cosmology. Learn about the substance, reading "pharmacology of LSD". It's a very informative book; compiled of government and medical studies regarding the substance. It isn't biased. It's just information and trials.

I know it had nothing to do with his other drugs.

He told me what he did. it was a huge quantity. We were out on the street at the bars. He went outside and used the pay phone to call an ambulance.

This is no urban legend.

I had to deal with his irate mother on the phone and in person. "What was Phil doing all this time? How could you let him!" etc.

The strychnine is no urban legend. In fact, you may have taken doses thinking it's LSD when it was pure strychnine.

Mixing the drugs in different amounts changes the quality of the trip as well.

Strychnine may also be used as one of the solvents in the process.

But you're the expert.

 

[magnifier661]

And LSD is not expensive to make. It's actually a very cheap process. Although getting the precursor ingredients are watched very closely.

Understand that a lab the size of a normal bathroom can produce 100,000 hits of potent acid, costing the cool only .10 a hit. That's paying very high costs for precursor chemicals.

 

[magnifier661]

I know it had nothing to do with his other drugs.

He told me what he did. it was a huge quantity. We were out on the street at the bars. He went outside and used the pay phone to call an ambulance.

This is no urban legend.

I had to deal with his irate mother on the phone and in person. "What was Phil doing all this time? How could you let him!" etc.

The strychnine is no urban legend. In fact, you may have taken doses thinking it's LSD when it was pure strychnine.

Mixing the drugs in different amounts changes the quality of the trip as well.

Strychnine may also be used as one of the solvents in the process.

But you're the expert.

Nope I never took strychnine. It is a very bitter chemical. Anytime any blotter was bitter, I spit it out. Even 10 micrograms of strychnine is extremely bitter to the tongue.

Did you see the patent process of "sandoz labs"? There is no strychnine in the process.

I'm not saying your friend didn't take that large amounts. I've heard of people taking that quantity before. But all that I read take it, usually had about a year of recovery from the trauma.

It's scary as shit on anything larger than 600 micrograms. A full vial has 9.5mg of CID (average hit being 95 mics x 100 hits). The baseline dose is 35 micrograms. That's almost 3,000 times over the baseline dose. You eat only 100 times the amount of baseline of aspirins, you're dead.... That just gives you an understanding on how safe "physically" the drug is to humans.

 

[Denny Crane]

So you had blotter that was bitter and spit it out.

Urban myth.

LOL

 

[magnifier661]

So you had blotter that was bitter and spit it out.

Urban myth.

LOL

Yeah it's called 25 nbome series. A synthesis that came out 10 years ago. There was also another series called DOX compound; which was bitter as well. Both aren't LSD; so no point eating them.