Dion Waiters

[PtldPlatypus]

I think it's pretty obvious that guys good enough to be one-and-dones are exempt from the basic rules.

It's arguable that Syracuse guys get overrated because Boeheim's system (especially his defensive scheme) makes players look better than they are, and masks their deficiencies. There's legitimacy to that viewpoint. The same can legitimately be said--in general--about Duke players. Kyrie doesn't count because he's a on-and-done talent; same with Deng. Boozer actually had the opposite problem--playing in K's system actually masked how effective he would be at the pro level, whereas Battier was the superior college player but was only average as a pro.

I don't think it's fair to say that a player who played at Syracuse is no good because he set foot on their campus, but I do believe it's fair to acknowledge that the transition from Boeheim's system to the NBA seems to be difficult for almost all of his players, and that teams should, at the very least, be wary of drafting multi-year Boeheimers with lotto picks.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I think it's pretty obvious that guys good enough to be one-and-dones are exempt from the basic rules.

It's arguable that Syracuse guys get overrated because Boeheim's system (especially his defensive scheme) makes players look better than they are, and masks their deficiencies. There's legitimacy to that viewpoint. The same can legitimately be said--in general--about Duke players. Kyrie doesn't count because he's a on-and-done talent; same with Deng. Boozer actually had the opposite problem--playing in K's system actually masked how effective he would be at the pro level, whereas Battier was the superior college player but was only average as a pro.

I don't think it's fair to say that a player who played at Syracuse is no good because he set foot on their campus, but I do believe it's fair to acknowledge that the transition from Boeheim's system to the NBA seems to be difficult for almost all of his players, and that teams should, at the very least, be wary of drafting multi-year Boeheimers with lotto picks.

The thing is that it's retarded to blame it on the school, and that's all a certain poster is saying over and over again. It's acceptable to blame the coach/system, cause that's actually logical.

 

[BBert]

So it's easier for a young basketball player, all other things being equal, to transition from high school to the NBA than from Syracuse to the NBA?

Why are you guys wasting your time with this?

 

[Mediocre Man]

The thing is that it's retarded to blame it on the school, and that's all a certain poster is saying over and over again. It's acceptable to blame the coach/system, cause that's actually logical.

The coach and the system have been at Syracuse for nearly 40 years. Boeheim is Syracuse basketball, thus he is Syracuse. When things change, so will my stance.

 

[jlprk]

As I have said before, I agree with Mediocre Man. I noticed the Syracuse Problem many years ago.

The place instills no self-discipline. Do NOT hire its graduates.

Seriously, its simple. Just move Syracuse players down 10 spots in the draft and you'll get what you paid for.

 

[Mediocre Man]

As I have said before, I agree with Mediocre Man. I noticed the Syracuse Problem many years ago.

The place instills no self-discipline. Do NOT hire its graduates.

Seriously, its simple. Just move Syracuse players down 10 spots in the draft and you'll get what you paid for.

Man I hate when you agree with me

 

[jlprk]

I agree with you on that, too.

 

[illmatic99]

Syracuse was in Lebron's top 3 if he would have went to College. Ohio State and Duke were the other two.

Can you imagine Melo and Bron on the same college team? whoa

That too, with Warrick and McNamarra. Dream team.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

The coach and the system have been at Syracuse for nearly 40 years. Boeheim is Syracuse basketball, thus he is Syracuse. When things change, so will my stance.

Do you realize how much easier and clearer it would be for you to just say that a Boeheim player should never be picked in the lottery? Obviously he won't be there forever. It looks like your chance will be changing soon, this'll all look pretty silly then.

 

[MickZagger]

Can you imagine Melo and Bron on the same college team? whoa

That too, with Warrick and McNamarra. Dream team.

And Shumpert.