Disgusting Lakers fans happy with Bynum's foul on Barea

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Natebishop3 said:
And that's really the distinct difference. It was a cheap shot when the game (and the series) was already over.
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Yep, but the same people complaining about it would be praising one of our guys for doing it, and saying it was nice someone showed some heart
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yep, but the same people complaining about it would be praising one of our guys for doing it, and saying it was nice someone showed some heart
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I don't think so, not at that juncture of the game. A hard foul or a cheap shot is one thing, but I don't think most Portland fans would support something like that. It shows poor sportsmanship and zero class. The Mavs outplayed them, they obviously wanted it more, and the dirty play at the end of game just showed that the Lakers are bad losers.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yep, but the same people complaining about it would be praising one of our guys for doing it, and saying it was nice someone showed some heart
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No way! If it was what Artest did, I would be saying at least we shown some heart. But what Bynum did had nothing to do with heart. It was a blantant and direct act of trying to injure the other player.
 
Watch the videos. MANY MANY dirty PLAYS. Its part of the NBA. Everyone is so damn used to these weak FOUL calls etc... I miss 80's and early 90's basketball...... That would have been a tech, a suspension for a game or two and people would move on. Thanks Denny for posting more videos. Seems like everyone wants BYNUMS head for this.. GET REAL! The greatest teams in the NBA have had some of their finest stars perform some of the most dirty plays I've seen. Did you see Kevin Mchale almost tear off Rambis's head? Dr. J and Larry Bird duke it out? Part of the game.
 
Trench said:
Watch the videos. MANY MANY dirty PLAYS. Its part of the NBA. Everyone is so damn used to these weak FOUL calls etc... I miss 80's and early 90's basketball...... That would have been a tech, a suspension for a game or two and people would move on. Thanks Denny for posting more videos. Seems like everyone wants BYNUMS head for this.. GET REAL! The greatest teams in the NBA have had some of their finest stars perform some of the most dirty plays I've seen. Did you see Kevin Mchale almost tear off Rambis's head? Dr. J and Larry Bird duke it out? Part of the game.
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Riiiight.... you probably also think that helmet on helmet hits in football are "part of the game".

You probably think this play was "okay" too, right?

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Trench said:
Watch the videos. MANY MANY dirty PLAYS. Its part of the NBA. Everyone is so damn used to these weak FOUL calls etc... I miss 80's and early 90's basketball...... That would have been a tech, a suspension for a game or two and people would move on. Thanks Denny for posting more videos. Seems like everyone wants BYNUMS head for this.. GET REAL! The greatest teams in the NBA have had some of their finest stars perform some of the most dirty plays I've seen. Did you see Kevin Mchale almost tear off Rambis's head? Dr. J and Larry Bird duke it out? Part of the game.
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Totally different! Those plays didn't take place at the end of blowout when being swept. Those fouls were in the heat of an actual battle. Bynum was just a sore loser and took a guy out for no good competitive reason. Disgusting and classless.
 
I think the term, "Disgusting Laker Fans" is from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Go Blazers
 
Larry Krystkowiak basically had his career ruined by Bill Laimbeer for the exact same bitch move that Miller pulled on Blake Griffin.
 
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PapaG said:
Larry Krystkowiak basically had his career ruined by Bill Laimbeer for the exact same bitch move that Miller pulled on Blake Griffin.
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I like that as this thread wars on, you get angrier and angrier with Andre Miller. "You know, the more I think about it, the more cowardly and hateful that jerk becomes!"
 
It was a cheap shot. A well-deserved cheap shot, earned by two earlier cheap shots by Griffin.

Bynum's cheap shot was on a completely different level.
 
I never said the foul was "OKAY". But everyone is practically trying to crucify Bynum for the hit. He was an idiot for doing it, but some are calling for 20 game suspensions and being barred from the league? Come on!

It was a stupid ass frustration foul at the end of the game. He certainly embarassed me and I practically went red in the face with all the haters at the bar looking at me in my Laker jersey, but give me a break. Disgusting and classless, but lesson learned. Move on. They fined him, suspended him for 5 games. Folks, this is basketball, emotions run high especially in a playoff game, and after your used to winning for so long. Its not an excuse, but shit happens. 23 year old, does some stupid ass shit. Is this the first time a young kid has done something stupid before? Some idiot move like that shouldn't cause haters to go on a witch hunt for his head. It was a bitch move, I'll be the first to admit it.

I was not "HAPPY" with the foul. It defintely wasnt what I envisioned to end our streak at 3 straight trips to the finals, and PJAX retirement party

Because of this play, because of his history, Andrew Bynum will surely carry the reputation of being a dirty player, of being classless. It's difficult to disagree with the label. But the presence of class is not binary. It is not black and white. One classless act is not enough to convict a man indefinitely. Three classless acts isn't enough either, necessarily. The presence of class is a qualitative equation in which one adds all the good and bad deeds and qualities that define a person. You consider all the information and spit out a final "number". Drew has many positive qualities that we can add into that equation. He is honest, more so than many athletes, even when that honesty causes him trouble. He is hard working. He sacrifices for his teammates, both in the sense that he is willing to forego a greater portion of the offensive pie that his ability might deserve, and because he has repeatedly shown a willingness to risk his personal well-being for the sake of team success, even if his contribution to the team is marginal. He is not a practitioner of dirty play in general, doesn't throw elbows on rebounds, doesn't flop. He plays the game the right way, except for these not so isolated instances in which he makes horrible decisions. Were it not for this one terrible character flaw, I would absolutely want to have Andrew Bynum on my team, and very little of my reasoning would have to do with his tremendous gifts as a player. But the flaw overwhelms it all. As of right now, should he keep up his current pace of both good and bad, the reputation of dirtiness will be well deserved.
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Trench said:
I never said the foul was "OKAY". But everyone is practically trying to crucify Bynum for the hit. He was an idiot for doing it, but some are calling for 20 game suspensions and being barred from the league? Come on!

It was a stupid ass frustration foul at the end of the game. He certainly embarassed me and I practically went red in the face with all the haters at the bar looking at me in my Laker jersey, but give me a break. Disgusting and classless, but lesson learned. Move on. ...
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We'll see about the lesson learned. He didn't learn from injuring Gerald Wallace, and he didn't learn from hurting Beasley. What gives you ANY confidence that he will learn from this latest incident?

Go Blazers
 
Trench said:
Disgusting and classless, but lesson learned.
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Disgusting and classless? Definitely. Lesson learned? Only time will tell. Given his history, Bynum appears to be a very slow learner. Until he stops committing these types of fouls, there is no proof he has learned anything.

Trench said:
Folks, this is basketball, emotions run high especially in a playoff game, and after your used to winning for so long. Its not an excuse, but shit happens.
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And Andrew Bynum needs to learn to control his emotions and not put other players at risk of serious injury because he can't handle losing. And why, exactly, does this shit keep happening to Bynum and no one else? Has anyone else committed a similar foul during these playoffs? During this regular season? Last season? Why is it JUST Andrew Bynum who puts other players at unnecessary risk in this manner? Jeff Foster committed some hard fouls on Derrick Rose during the first round, but they were hard fouls, not dirty fouls that put Rose at risk of serious injury. What Bynum does crosses a line, and he's done it multiple times - twice is less than two months. He is a repeat offender and deserves escalating penalties until he stops putting other players at risk of injury.

Trench said:
23 year old, does some stupid ass shit. Is this the first time a young kid has done something stupid before?
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Of course it's not the first time. Hell, it's the THIRD time Bynum has done the exact same thing. And stop using his age as an excuse. Andrew Bynum has played five seasons in the NBA. He should know by now what's acceptable and what isn't. He was just fined and suspended less than two months ago for doing the exact same thing. He knew it was wrong when he did it, but he did it anyway.

BNM
 
PapaG said:
Larry Krystkowiak basically had his career ruined by Bill Laimbeer for the exact same bitch move that Miller pulled on Blake Griffin.
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There's just a tiny difference when Bill Laimbeer hits you at a dead run and when Andre Miller does the same thing. The difference? About 100 lbs of muscle.
 
Trench said:
I never said the foul was "OKAY". But everyone is practically trying to crucify Bynum for the hit. He was an idiot for doing it, but some are calling for 20 game suspensions and being barred from the league? Come on!

It was a stupid ass frustration foul at the end of the game. He certainly embarassed me and I practically went red in the face with all the haters at the bar looking at me in my Laker jersey, but give me a break. Disgusting and classless, but lesson learned. Move on. They fined him, suspended him for 5 games. Folks, this is basketball, emotions run high especially in a playoff game, and after your used to winning for so long. Its not an excuse, but shit happens. 23 year old, does some stupid ass shit. Is this the first time a young kid has done something stupid before? Some idiot move like that shouldn't cause haters to go on a witch hunt for his head. It was a bitch move, I'll be the first to admit it.

I was not "HAPPY" with the foul. It defintely wasnt what I envisioned to end our streak at 3 straight trips to the finals, and PJAX retirement party
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Hahahahaha!

Dude, we're Blazer fans. This is a Blazer forum. We don't have to be rational. We think all Laker players are scum.
 
BoobNoMore's take when it involves a Blazer player committing a cheap shot.

Boob-No-More said:
There was no intent to injure anyone at either end. BNM
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BoobNoMore's take when it involves a Laker player committing a cheap shot.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/137298-Laker-Fans-Support-Foul?p=1945390&viewfull=1#post1945390

All of you arguing Ariza's intentions need to go and read the rulebook. It's not a factor. It's not even mentioned. The criterion for a flagrant 2 is "unnecessary and excessive contact". It's the act that's punished, not the intent. And that's the way it should be. How can a referee or league official possibly determine intent? They can't read minds, and no player, knowing he's facing a suspension, is going to admit he was trying to hurt another player.

So, regardless of intent, Ariza's actions were "unecessary and excessive". They were also reckless and put another player, in a very vulnerable position, at risk of serious injury. Punish the action, not the intent. Send a message that taking down a player, who has left his feet, from behind with a blow to the head, is NEVER allowed.
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:MARIS61:
 
PapaG said:
BoobNoMore's take when it involves a Blazer player committing a cheap shot.



BoobNoMore's take when it involves a Laker player committing a cheap shot.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/137298-Laker-Fans-Support-Foul?p=1945390&viewfull=1#post1945390



:MARIS61:
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Thank God Miller is a classy player and one of the best PGs in the league right now. We should be grateful that he has the skill and "team philosophy" to help his team get theirs! It's great to be a Miller and Blazers fan!
 
To recap what just happened here, some posters change their views on hard fouls/cheap shots depending on whether or not a player on "their" team commits said foul/shot.

Others are willing to call a cheap shot a cheap shot, regardless of team affiliation. Since this thread was created to illustrate what monsters Lakers fans are for defending a cheap shot by Bynum, and I offered proof of a Blazer homer changing his stance regarding "intent" solely due to Andre Miller being a Blazers, I think my work here is done.

Homers are homers, and they will protect their own. There is nothing wrong with that; then again, I fully expect many Laker fans to defend Bynum, just as I would expect many Blazer fans to defend Miller. The key is to actually recognize this, though, instead of compromising your integrity solely based on the team involved in the incident.

Have a great day! :)
 
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magnifier661 said:
Thank God Miller is a classy player and one of the best PGs in the league right now. We should be grateful that he has the skill and "team philosophy" to help his team get theirs! It's great to be a Miller and Blazers fan!
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I agree. Miller has done a great job of maintaining the status quo since he came to Portland, and I thank him for it. Now is the time to upgrade that position, though, since clearly Andre isn't going to be a key player on a title-contending Blazer team, and his contract has value in terms of a trade, even if it is just to move up in the draft to try and get Irving, Knight, or even Walker.
 
PapaG said:
To recap what just happened here, some posters change their views on hard fouls/cheap shots depending on whether or not a player on "their" team commits said foul/shot.

Others are willing to call a cheap shot a cheap shot, regardless of team affiliation. Since this thread was created to illustrate what monsters Lakers fans are for defending a cheap shot by Bynum, and I offered proof of a Blazer homer changing his stance regarding "intent" solely due to Andre Miller being a Blazers, I think my work here is done.

Homers are homers, and they will protect their own. There is nothing wrong with that; then again, I fully expect many Laker fans to defend Bynum, just as I would expect many Blazer fans to defend Miller. The key is to actually recognize this, though, instead of compromising your integrity solely based on the team involved in the incident.

Have a great day! :)
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Yeah...Ive just been watching you defend yourself from the crazies in this thread
thanks for being rational
 
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