Politics Do his words matter?

[Further]

serious question, do Trumps words matter anymore? Nationally his words seem to embolden certain groups, but it struck me that there is not much conversation today about Trump threatening to totally destroy NK. Had Obama, Bush, Clinton or Reagan said such a thing it would have been non-stop coverage of that statement and analysis of what it meant to the US, NK and the world. But now there are articles and commentary but the general consensus is that it's all just bravado.

I'm not even necessarily against a President using threats to drive an outcome. Ronald Reagan did it with aplomb and rewarded for it. I don't see Trump ever being able to be taken seriously on the world stage.

 

[barfo]

How long until the next missile launch? I'm guessing less than 2 weeks.

barfo

 

[Sedatedfork]

Honestly at this point, his blustering is losing its novelty among critics. I think it only matters to his supporters who see it as bucking the establishment. Critics at this point are probably like, yeah, this has been going on for 8 months. When you wrestle with a pig you get dirty and the pig likes it. I didn't see many criticisms of his comments internationally. I think that's because they realize that reacting to his comments just doesn't do anything.

 

[The Professional Fan]

His words are mattering less and less and it's happening at a rapid rate. But god damn if he ever wore a tan suit it would be fucking chaos

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Trump should get a dog. Everyone likes dogs. Obama had a dog, Bush had a dog, Bill had a cat, that's why people don't like him or his wife.

 

[barfo]

Trump should get a dog. Everyone likes dogs. Obama had a dog, Bush had a dog, Bill had a cat, that's why people don't like him or his wife.

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Buddy is sad you've forgotten him.

barfo

Clintons had a dog and a cat?!?

Trump should still get a dog.

 

[Sedatedfork]

 

[e_blazer]

Clintons had a dog and a cat?!?

Trump should still get a dog.

Yes he should, if only so he could name her Hilary.

That would get everyone's knickers in a bunch.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I think Trump bragged about grabbing Clinton's cat.

 

[theprunetang]

Yes he should, if only so he could name her Hilary.

That would get everyone's knickers in a bunch.

He would totally do that. Or call it some gibberish like Covfefe and pretend that it has some hidden meaning.

 

[Covfefe]

He would totally do that. Or call it some gibberish like Covfefe and pretend that it has some hidden meaning.

 

[dviss1]

To answer the question of the thread title:

No. His words don't matter. Especially the ones he tweets. Those are just shiny things held up to distract us from what he's really trying to do. Like block grant (CUT TO FUCKING SMITHEREENS) Medicaid.

Notice how the ReThuglicans are only trying to do it with reconciliation and WITHOUT a CBO score...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The president represents America so his words represent us.

I now have the best words!

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

The media wing of the Democrat Party got distracted by the hurricanes and the negative PR blitz paused.

Trump’s standing in almost all the polls improved significantly. Not great, but a far cry from the low 30s polls CNN cherry picks.

I think General Kelley as chief of staff might have a wee bit to do with it. Legislative victories and bipartisanship likely helped, too. His response to the hurricanes, traveling there, serving up food, kissing babies, and promise (and delivered) federal money to begin repairs.

But he hasn’t accomplished anything. Just ask the official gatekeepers of the (little t) truth (i.e. the whiney media).

 

[Chris Craig]

Trump should get a dog. Everyone likes dogs. Obama had a dog, Bush had a dog, Bill had a cat, that's why people don't like him or his wife.

Bill had a dog too...monica took him for several walks

 

[Chris Craig]

serious question, do Trumps words matter anymore? Nationally his words seem to embolden certain groups, but it struck me that there is not much conversation today about Trump threatening to totally destroy NK. Had Obama, Bush, Clinton or Reagan said such a thing it would have been non-stop coverage of that statement and analysis of what it meant to the US, NK and the world. But now there are articles and commentary but the general consensus is that it's all just bravado.

I'm not even necessarily against a President using threats to drive an outcome. Ronald Reagan did it with aplomb and rewarded for it. I don't see Trump ever being able to be taken seriously on the world stage.

Your right if Obama, Bush, Clinton, or Reagan had threatened to blow up NK shit would have hit the fan. The reason why it hasn't with Trump is because no one takes him or his words seriously.

 

[Chris Craig]

To answer the question of the thread title:

No. His words don't matter. Especially the ones he tweets. Those are just shiny things held up to distract us from what he's really trying to do. Like block grant (CUT TO FUCKING SMITHEREENS) Medicaid.

Notice how the ReThuglicans are only trying to do it with reconciliation and WITHOUT a CBO score...

They matter only in that he's the president, he represents our country, and he is embarassing the shit out of us

 

[Further]

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But, do his words matter? Seriously, I am not sure. I think on a world stage they matter less than any president in recent history. Locally maybe they still matter. McMasters words matter, as do the words of other cabinet members and the senate, but I don't think Trumps words carry any weight worldwide.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Denny Crane]

But, do his words matter? Seriously, I am not sure. I think on a world stage they matter less than any president in recent history. Locally maybe they still matter. McMasters words matter, as do the words of other cabinet members and the senate, but I don't think Trumps words carry any weight worldwide.

His words matter when he's not making a joke. The man came from the entertainment business where he was a "star" (whatever you want to call him) due partly to his sense of humor.

Reagan said, "when do we start bombing Russia (rough quote)" on a hot mic, but he was kidding. The proof is in the results - end of the cold war.

When he starts lying about important matters for his own political benefit (and no, he hasn't yet), it'll be something to talk about.

As far as NK and the rocket man thing, it's clear Trump is trying a different approach, since the previous ones were utterly unsuccessful. His top military guys (McMasters) are in line with what he's doing.

Trump was able to get the Chinese and Russians to vote for sanctions against NK, which is a big deal. So whatever he's doing has some good effect.

 

[Chris Craig]

Amurica!

 

[Denny Crane]

Amurica!

ClickHole. SlyPokerDog.

Fits.

 

[Chris Craig]

Reagan said, "when do we start bombing Russia (rough quote)" on a hot mic, but he was kidding. The proof is in the results - end of the cold war.

"Tear down this wall Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

As far as NK and the rocket man thing, it's clear Trump is trying a different approach, since the previous ones were utterly unsuccessful. His top military guys (McMasters) are in line with what he's doing.

Trying a different approach huh. Goading a maniacal dictator into war. I'd say thats a different approach. Though I doubt Kim Jong un will actually shoot a missile at us let alone hit us or Japan with one. That would be suicide. He's just trying to look like a bad ass to his slaves...erm people

 

[Denny Crane]

"Tear down this wall Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."



Trying a different approach huh. Goading a maniacal dictator into war. I'd say thats a different approach. Though I doubt Kim Jong un will actually shoot a missile at us let alone hit us or Japan with one. That would be suicide. He's just trying to look like a bad ass to his slaves...erm people

The last president bargained away $billions of cash to Iran, including some of it delivered in cash on pallets via airplane without any assurances that cash wouldn't be funding terrorist groups. An initial $400M in cash was delivered to Iran in exchange for hostages (we paid ransom, which we never should do). Another two shipments of $1.3B immediately followed.

Bill Clinton negotiated a deal with NK that NK pretty much ignored.

So yeah, I'll go with the different approach.

"We begin bombing in 5 minutes."

 

[Denny Crane]

FWIW, I start my day reading through a bunch of news stories. I post those I find interesting here.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/21/trumps-war-strategy-hailed-afghan-president/

Trump’s war strategy hailed by Afghan president: ‘A difference of day and night’

President Trump received glowing praise Thursday from Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani for the new war strategy, which was credited for turning around the 16-year war against Taliban militants and other radical Islamic terrorists.

“It is a difference of day and night,” Mr. Ghani said at a meeting with Mr. Trump. “The cloud of uncertainty has been lifted, but equally important is your commitment to a political solution at the end of this process.”

Mr. Trump announced the new strategy a month ago. It included setting long-term goals for the war effort, sending more U.S. troops to train and assist the Afghan military and revisions rules of engagement.

Before Mr. Trump took office, President Obama had begun a drawdown of U.S. troops and then halted the pullout as conditions deteriorated.

“You made this decision on the basis of courage and determination. We salute you,” Mr. Ghani said of the renewed commitment to the war.

 

[Denny Crane]

The bump continues.

 

[Further]

His words matter when he's not making a joke. The man came from the entertainment business where he was a "star" (whatever you want to call him) due partly to his sense of humor.

Reagan said, "when do we start bombing Russia (rough quote)" on a hot mic, but he was kidding. The proof is in the results - end of the cold war.

When he starts lying about important matters for his own political benefit (and no, he hasn't yet), it'll be something to talk about.

As far as NK and the rocket man thing, it's clear Trump is trying a different approach, since the previous ones were utterly unsuccessful. His top military guys (McMasters) are in line with what he's doing.

Trump was able to get the Chinese and Russians to vote for sanctions against NK, which is a big deal. So whatever he's doing has some good effect.

Im actually not necessarily opposed to Trump trying a different approach, and the threats to bomb NK could be a decent strategy done by a serious President. Reagan for example. But I think Trump isn't taken seriously, his words don't matter. He has acted like a clown too many times, lies, "jokes", changes course, and never accomplishes anything. Quite ineffectual and hence not able to convey a true threat to NK.

 

[Denny Crane]

Im actually not necessarily opposed to Trump trying a different approach, and the threats to bomb NK could be a decent strategy done by a serious President. Reagan for example. But I think Trump isn't taken seriously, his words don't matter. He has acted like a clown too many times, lies, "jokes", changes course, and never accomplishes anything. Quite ineffectual and hence not able to convey a true threat to NK.

I think people are taking his words seriously.

Deadly seriously.

Seriously.

I think it's a mistake to parse everything he says so literally. Instead, look at the broader theme of what he says in context with what's going on.

Example: the withering shit storm of negative PR and Russia, Russia, Russia is a witch hunt (it is).