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[TigerTaylor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is a thread about dog fighting, michael vick has been on tv all day for dog fighting. 1+1=2.</div>It was still no need to bring race into it, which is exactly what you did.

 

[primetime]

If anyone brought race into it, it was the dream.I stated a fact and behaved like a perfectly well-behaved negro should boss.

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If anyone brought race into it, it was the dream.I stated a fact and behaved like a perfectly well-behaved negro should boss.</div>

PT, what are your thoughts of guys like PacMan, Tank, and Vick? You think the NFL has the right to suspend them?

 

[TigerTaylor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know whats worse then dog fighting? Black Children getting lynched in south carolina all throughout the 50s by kkk members.</div>How is this not bring race into the topic? It's about white people killing black people.I find it funny how you try to ship the blame on someone else.

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And apparently, we also invented intelligence. What have black people invented lately?Because he was fighting. Youch.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder how many white people are involved in dog fighting

</div>Shifting blame my ass. the facts are there.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

PT, what are your thoughts of guys like PacMan, Tank, and Vick? You think the NFL has the right to suspend them?</div>Pacman should be suspended. Tank has served his time and shouldnt, and until vick is found guilty neither should he be suspended.

 

[TigerTaylor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shifting blame my ass. the facts are there.Pacman should be suspended. Tank has served his time and shouldnt, and until vick is found guilty neither should he be suspended.</div>Yeah the facts are there that you were the first one to put racial discussion into the topic.

 

[kingjamez]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and until vick is found guilty neither should he be suspended.</div>I cannot wait until the day he is found guilty.

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jul 18 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah the facts are there that you were the first one to put racial discussion into the topic.</div>That I did do. but I didnt antagonize anyone with my post. I stated a common fact. that is all. It's not like I started the thread by saying'' f*cking HONKEY CRACKAZ YALL STUPID ASS SOMEBODIES WHO ALWAYS BLAMIN the BLACK MAYAN!''Just leave this damn thread alone. what I said wasnt anything crucial or to be offended by. it wasnt even an opinion, like I said its common knowledge and was posted to have people think before they judge someone else.

 

[CB4allstar]

Why exactly? With Matt Schaub gone, the Falcons would be garbage without Vick.

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Pacman should be suspended. Tank has served his time and shouldnt, and until vick is found guilty neither should he be suspended.</div>This isn't about what they did, this is about protecting the NFL's image. IMO Time served shouldn't come into play.

 

[.mastro]

If Michael Vick was white I would hate him jsut the same, this has nothing to do with race, so just shut up.

 

[kingjamez]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 18 2007, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why exactly? With Matt Schaub gone, the Falcons would be garbage without Vick.</div>We should be looking into getting Culpepper.. Vick is a "coach killer", and he's the most overrated player in the game.. Besides that, he's a criminal.. I want him in jail

 

[gentile]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 18 2007, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I cannot wait until the day he is found guilty.</div>I felt the same way about scooter libby. But you're gonna get gypped on this one all day.If Vick has any kind of quality lawyer or agent, somebody is gonna get paid to be a fall guy and he's gonna get off scot free. All day.

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.mastro @ Jul 18 2007, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Michael Vick was white I would hate him jsut the same, this has nothing to do with race, so just shut up.</div>You obviously didnt read the thread. that is completely offtopic. I love how everyone here puts words in my mouth.When did I say anything to imply that?my post was more on philosphy of judgement I believe than actually turning it into a racial arguement. I know better now with how immature people are here.

 

[.mastro]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but I already knew where this thread was going ''MICHAEL VICK IS DESPICABLE! HOW COULD SOMEONE DO THAT?'' so I wanted to let yall know your own people murdered children for no reason before you scrutinize another person.

</div>in the above

 

[TigerTaylor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know better now with how immature people are here.</div>I hope you're not talking about me.

 

[The`Dream]

or meh, because I iz verry machure in meh onipiniz.

 

[gentile]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You obviously didnt read the thread. that is completely offtopic. I love how everyone here puts words in my mouth.When did I say anything to imply that?my post was more on philosphy of judgement I believe than actually turning it into a racial arguement. I know better now with how immature people are here.</div>I get tired of conservative white people blasting black athletes for arrogance and criminal behavior too. I think alot of it comes from jealousy. It's like their the focal point for racial hatred that has no other politically correct outlet, but what're you gonna do? Alot of these cats is f*cking up bad.

 

[ReppinTheD]

Ugh I hate when people bring up race in everything they possibly can.This is how serious Vick's situation is.Michael Vick is being indicted by the fed's for dog fighting. This is not like any small state court indictment, this is by the federal government. This is big time. Vick will be standing in a huge federal court house with judges, and layers, and prosecuters that will all be for convicting Vick. Not to mention all of the peace groups, and animal rights groups that will be for convicting Vick. Dog Fighting is a major felony; and Micheal Vick is in danger of being convicted. He won't be getting a slap on the hand, or a probation - most likely, he will be put in a federal penetentiary for some amount of time. Now, how should the NFL, or the public media react to this? Well, Micheal Vick is a NFL All star, a multi-time pro bowler - he is essentially the face of the Atlanta Falcons, and one of the biggest, and most famous celebrity athletes there is in sports. His RACE has NOTHING to do with this, but the fact that he's being indicted by the feds for a major felony has EVERYTHING to do with this situation. How should the NFL react to this? Well...speaking of the NFL and how they should react - we've got Tank Johnson, and Pac Man Jones who were suspended for their conduct, but they were not even convicted of any crimes. The NFL seeks to keep its image as clean as possible, and in order to do this, the NFL needs to show strict punishments for those under its name. Most likely, Vick will be convicted - and I would not be surprised if he is suspended before any charges or convictions are announced. Keep in mind, Vick was just resigned to the Falcons and is currently under a HUGE contract. He also was in his little marijuana cup issue. The NFL's only possible move would be to suspend him. and WHEN they do, we all know there will be a barage of complaints from African americans who think that this whole situation somehow had to do with the fact that Vick is black...Say Payton manning got into trouble - do you think white people would be calling into radio stations all over the US complaining about the fact that Manning is white, and THAT's why he is being treated so harshly? Absolutely not.Race is a big issue, but it doesn't have to be in every little problem we have with a black athlete.

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jul 18 2007, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hope you're not talking about me.</div>Na your good. You just hawk on sh*t a little too much. let I go. It was half a page of racial disccusion and 3 pages of everyone yelling at me.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And apparently, we also invented intelligence. What have black people invented lately?Because he was fighting. Youch.</div>This post was far more offensive then anything I posted.

 

[primetime]

I never said anything about michael vick being black btw.

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This post was far more offensive then anything I posted.</div>Yep. I respect you PrimeTime, and I think your a really intelligent person but when you start to defend your race before anyone even threatens to throw the race card you get a little upset. Its almost like you were expecting us to be racist.

 

[BFR]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And apparently, we also invented intelligence. What have black people invented lately?Because he was fighting. Youch.</div> :no1:

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yep. I respect you PrimeTime, and I think your a really intelligent person but when you start to defend your race before anyone even threatens to throw the race card you get a little upset. Its almost like you were expecting us to be racist.</div>I saw that quote in your sig, if your going to quote me. At least include the full post if you respect me. that is way out of context.

 

[kingjamez]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Jul 18 2007, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ugh I hate when people bring up race in everything they possibly can.This is how serious Vick's situation is.Michael Vick is being indicted by the fed's for dog fighting. This is not like any small state court indictment, this is by the federal government. This is big time. Vick will be standing in a huge federal court house with judges, and layers, and prosecuters that will all be for convicting Vick. Not to mention all of the peace groups, and animal rights groups that will be for convicting Vick. Dog Fighting is a major felony; and Micheal Vick is in danger of being convicted. He won't be getting a slap on the hand, or a probation - most likely, he will be put in a federal penetentiary for some amount of time. Now, how should the NFL, or the public media react to this? Well, Micheal Vick is a NFL All star, a multi-time pro bowler - he is essentially the face of the Atlanta Falcons, and one of the biggest, and most famous celebrity athletes there is in sports. His RACE has NOTHING to do with this, but the fact that he's being indicted by the feds for a major felony has EVERYTHING to do with this situation. How should the NFL react to this? Well...speaking of the NFL and how they should react - we've got Tank Johnson, and Pac Man Jones who were suspended for their conduct, but they were not even convicted of any crimes. The NFL seeks to keep its image as clean as possible, and in order to do this, the NFL needs to show strict punishments for those under its name. Most likely, Vick will be convicted - and I would not be surprised if he is suspended before any charges or convictions are announced. Keep in mind, Vick was just resigned to the Falcons and is currently under a HUGE contract. He also was in his little marijuana cup issue. The NFL's only possible move would be to suspend him. and WHEN they do, we all know there will be a barage of complaints from African americans who think that this whole situation somehow had to do with the fact that Vick is black...Say Payton manning got into trouble - do you think white people would be calling into radio stations all over the US complaining about the fact that Manning is white, and THAT's why he is being treated so harshly? Absolutely not.Race is a big issue, but it doesn't have to be in every little problem we have with a black athlete.</div>Well said. Just so all you folks know, the conviction rate after being indicted, is 95%... so the chances are VERY high that he gets convicted..

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well said. Just so all you folks know, the conviction rate after being indicted, is 95%... so the chances are VERY high that he gets convicted..</div>Thats actually low compared to the amount by local/state police. I changed my sig, PrimeTime to what you actually meant rather then what you said.

 

[The Captain]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jul 18 2007, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I get tired of conservative white people blasting black athletes for arrogance and criminal behavior too. I think alot of it comes from jealousy. It's like their the focal point for racial hatred that has no other politically correct outlet, but what're you gonna do? Alot of these cats is f*cking up bad.</div>What does race/political standing have to do with ANYTHING here gentile?

 

[primetime]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The`Dream @ Jul 18 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thats actually low compared to the amount by local/state police. I changed my sig, PrimeTime to what you actually meant rather then what you said.</div>Falsely quoting me isnt any better.

 

[The`Dream]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 18 2007, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Falsely quoting me isnt any better.</div>If tahts not what you meant, your f*cking crazy. You did everything but go out of your way to call me a KKK member man...

 

[gentile]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 18 2007, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well said. Just so all you folks know, the conviction rate after being indicted, is 95%... so the chances are VERY high that he gets convicted..</div>Bush could always pardon him.Seriously though, I think there is something wrong with the NFL that bears looking into with so many blacks getting in trouble. Easily, it's the most culturally repressive and monochromatic professional sports environment in the U.S. (although the NBA is trying to catch up).The crackdown on touchdown celebrations for instance, is something clearly aimed at black players. Perhaps this has something to do with the off field rebellion trend that we've been seeing lately. I don't know.