Domantas and Giannis might not be impossible for us

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Domihatin

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If I were them, the Blazers are starting to look appealing and certainly better than my crumbling and aging MIL and SAC teams.

Would this be a true superteam? Rumors have flown about both coming to the team, but seems a pipe dream. I think it would be a scary team if it happens.



Blazers trade Ayton, Grant, Williams III, Banton, Walker, Murray, Reath and 10th pick this year plus additional future picks in 3 team deal to add these two stars.


Who would we start? Who are the subs? What's the rotation, it's all hypothetical.


Deni is our best player and where does he fit in this? He needs to start. Maybe we flip Jru to make it happen but Jru is the bait for Giannis and Domantas.


Pg: Jru/Scoot

Sg: Shaedon/Jru

Pf: Giannis/Deni

Sf: Toumani/Matisse

C: Damontas/Donovan


Who else do we have for the bench?


We'd have to get some players back in such a deal.


I think we should just go after Saboner and start Deni over Giannis (meaning we don't get Giannis at all and keep Murray and someone else.)
 
Not going to happen. We might be able to get Giannis as I detailed in Giannis trade thread - but theres no way to get him and Sabonis. Certainly not while having all of our top6 players stay here in Clingan/Deni/Camara/Sharpe/Scoot/Jrue.

If we want to bring in multiple allstars maybe we could bring in Sabonis and Garland or such. Giannis is going to need a mega package on his own.

Really not sure the Blazers will trade a boatload of their picks as if theres a big injury or bad chemistry it could turn into a Phoenix situations very quickly. Blazers are going up for sale and that could be polarizing to new buyers. New buyers aren't going to be worried on the Jrue addition significantly. Losing all your picks for 7 years is totally different.

Instead of the Phoenix model - seems like the Blazers may want to emulate the Rockets model where they get some key vets while keeping most of the teams youth/picks.
 
I can see Giannis. Perhaps Jrue was a key cog in making that happen. I think Giannis alone, depending on what we keep, puts us deeply in the conversation. Top 4 in West for sure
 
RonBrewer said:
I can see Giannis. Perhaps Jrue was a key cog in making that happen. I think Giannis alone, depending on what we keep, puts us deeply in the conversation. Top 4 in West for sure
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Yeah Giannis would make us a contender next season for sure.

But how will Giannis age over the next 3-5 years? Wouldn't shock me if his best years are behind him. His play is based on athleticism. If he drops from an MVP candidate to borderline allstar thats still a great player but we would drop from being a contender very fast.

Giving up all that draft equity we'd need to bring in Giannis could look horrible in ~5 years. Similar to the Paul George deals.

I'd probably do any of those trades for Giannis if we don't need to gut our youth on the roster. But even if we can't do any such trade - just holding onto all those Bucks picks could ultimately turn out to be the much better option.
 
I don't think he is a defensive liability. Let's get him.
 
The best part is they'd be trading a pick they don't even own!
 
Cleary our trade targets should be Sabonis and Pippen, we already have Grant. I don’t know about any other matching last names TBH. Is there even an O’Neal in the NBA?
 
I actually think we could get Giannis and Sabonis if we wanted to right now I just don't think we could keep all of the guys that the OP says we could. If we want to compete for a title this next season then we could probably bring those two on.

Giannis for Ayton, Deni, the best of the 2029 FRPs and the swaps back might be enough for the Bucks. Domantis for Jerami, Rob, pick 11 and our pick in 2031 unprotected might just work for the Kings. It works as far as salary matching goes.

The rotation would be Jrue, Shaedon, Tou, Giannis, Domas, Scoot, Tisse, Clingan and we'd probably sign some ring chasers.
 
PDXFonz said:
Cleary our trade targets should be Sabonis and Pippen, we already have Grant. I don’t know about any other matching last names TBH. Is there even an O’Neal in the NBA?
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Then wait to draft BJ Roy in a few years.
 
blazerkor said:
I actually think we could get Giannis and Sabonis if we wanted to right now I just don't think we could keep all of the guys that the OP says we could. If we want to compete for a title this next season then we could probably bring those two on.

Giannis for Ayton, Deni, the best of the 2029 FRPs and the swaps back might be enough for the Bucks. Domantis for Jerami, Rob, pick 11 and our pick in 2031 unprotected might just work for the Kings. It works as far as salary matching goes.

The rotation would be Jrue, Shaedon, Tou, Giannis, Domas, Scoot, Tisse, Clingan and we'd probably sign some ring chasers.
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The only way they're getting Giannis and Sabonis is if they're trading for Thananis and legally change his name and Žygimantas
 
blazerkor said:
Giannis for Ayton, Deni, the best of the 2029 FRPs and the swaps back might be enough for the Bucks.
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No - were not getting Giannis for Deni and a pick. Zero chance Milwaukee entertains that.

While we might be able to get Giannis - it would need to be a huge haul of picks like 5 or 6 of them. Or some package of our youth with Scoot+Sharpe and still multiple picks.

There is just no realistic way to have both Giannis and Sabonis plus enough players to contend.

Even just getting Giannis on his own is highly questionable as we'd have to gut so much of our picks/youth we risk turning into the Suns 2.0. I'd lean towards it would be worth doing since we'd be a contender next season. But its a lot of risk that could blow up in a very bad way.
 
Even ignoring the obvious issue with not having the assets to acquire both Sabonis+Giannis... they seem like a horrible pair on the same roster?

Both are best controlling the ball themselves and getting into the paint. Giannis is good sliding into center for closing lineups. Sabonis only plays effectively at center.

Either one of them would be the big in a two star lineup - paired with a perimeter star sidekick.

Just doesn't make any sense on so many levels to try and get them both on the Blazers - or on any team.
 
There is no way Giannis Stays in Milwaukee for the remainder of his contract. As soon as he asks for a trade, we have Milwaukee's picks to trade for him and his friend Jrue to lure him
 
I wouldn't say no chance. He won a title in Milwaukee. Getting Turner likely buys Milwaukee a year. Next summer they'll have two unprotected picks and an unprotected swap available to trade for an all-star level or near all-star level sidekick.

But yes if they ever explore trading him were the #1 trade partner either directly or as a third team.

Might actually be even better for our picks if they hold out a few more years. If Giannis has a decline all the sudden Giannis well into his 30s on a supermax with little shooting could have his trade value plummet. Today they could get a haul to rebuild with him. In a number of years similar to an aging Kobe they might just be stuck with him.
 
Let's say Bucks season is terrible and they pivot to trade Giannis during the season. What would be the offer we'd make?

With Jrue here and Dame interested in signing would we send out Scoot?

Grant, Scoot, Murray

Picks we can send out is potentially a massive haul
5 FRP unprotected
4 unprotected swaps built in to picks
2 unprotected swaps

2028 unprotected Orlando
2028 unprotected Blazers(with swap)*
2029 unprotected (with 2x swaps)
2030 unprotected (with swap)
2032 unprotected
2027 unprotected swap
2031 unprotected swap

*conditional on making 2026 playoffs

Clingan Yang
Giannis Timelord
Deni Thybulle
Camara Sharpe
Jrue Dame
 
Thats an amazing offer for the Bucks. Returns all their FRP except for 2026 (sunk cost) and 2027 swap (not costly as NOP are horrible too). Gets them a great young player to build around in Scoot.

Zero chance they look at this today but if they're season goes horrible or more likely next summer - I guess you never know.

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Still I ultimately expect they play out this year - try to flip their 2030+2032 picks to bring in a Giannis sidekick instead.

Never know from the Blazers end. While its salivating to daydream of adding Giannis now when he just finished 3rd in MVP - he might have a rapid decline in effectiveness very soon. This trade idea might look more like a Paul George to the Clippers disaster in a half decade. The Blazers may be far better off to just continue with all the assets they have.

Seems like stars well into their 30's almost never live up to the hype. For every LeBron and CP3 theres 5x as many Wade and Melo's.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Thats an amazing offer for the Bucks. Returns all their FRP except for 2026 (sunk cost) and 2027 swap (not costly as NOP are horrible too). Gets them a great young player to build around in Scoot.

Zero chance they look at this today but if they're season goes horrible or more likely next summer - I guess you never know.

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Still I ultimately expect they play out this year - try to flip their 2030+2032 picks to bring in a Giannis sidekick instead.

Never know from the Blazers end. While its salivating to daydream of adding Giannis now when he just finished 3rd in MVP - he might have a rapid decline in effectiveness very soon. This trade idea might look more like a Paul George to the Clippers disaster in a half decade. The Blazers may be far better off to just continue with all the assets they have.

Seems like stars well into their 30's almost never live up to the hype. For every LeBron and CP3 theres 5x as many Wade and Melo's.
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It’d for sure have to start with:

Scoot
Clingan
Trove of 1RP

Deni or Camara will likely have to be tossed in as
well.

The premium that the Bucks would demand will be
mind boggling.
 
So what do we call it when we just come up with trade ideas for the sake of making up trade ideas?

Etradejulation?
 
BigGameDamian said:
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I personally would want to keep Clingan at C. We need a screen setting defensive big. Sabonis is a liability on that end.

This post is pretty wild. There is no scenario where we get Giannis while keeping Scoot and Shae. They would BOTH go and I would be all for it. This, of course, hinges on Dame returning to form.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
It’d for sure have to start with:

Scoot
Clingan
Trove of 1RP

Deni or Camara will likely have to be tossed in as
well.

The premium that the Bucks would demand will be
mind boggling.
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I think we can keep both Deni and Camara in a trade for Giannis. Scoot and Shae would go though.
 
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