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I've pretty much declared my two acres an independent sovereign nation and made myself the Grand Wazoo...hold my calls! I'm also the ambassador to the US now so I have diplomatic immunity. Mine is a neutral country but we will take care of your disposable income for you!
 
Denny Crane said:
I don't know who is worse: Trump sore losers (2020) or Democrat sore losers (2016, 2024). Seems pretty close.

When your ass takes a pounding at the voting booth, I guess it makes you butthurt.

(tongue in cheek)
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I know what's worse, but on another topic Denny, hope you are not in the path of the recent fires in San Diego if you're still in that neck of the woods.
 
riverman said:
I know what's worse, but on another topic Denny, hope you are not in the path of the recent fires in San Diego if you're still in that neck of the woods.
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Well now I don't know who to believe. Sly says that Denny is alive, and Riverman says that Denny is in, you know, a fiery place.
 
jlprk said:
I've missed Denny. He enlivens the off-topic board. I hope Sly unties him.

Little Scooter is improving, so I will need a new target.
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He's been in Sly's basement this whole time?
 
Had President Clinton, Obama, Biden pardoned the most notorious drug dealer of their era they would have been impeached and thrown out of office as unfit. Their own party would turn against them. Nevertheless, every Democrat from here to eternity would have drug dealer label stuck to them.

How many people are even aware Trump gave full unconditional pardon to biggest online dope pusher? Who is a folk hero on the right!

I guess for those who worship a decrepit man peddling lies, bigotry, and eternal self pity, cocaine and heroin are no big deal.
 
I'm afraid a lot of dangerously crazed intolerant people are going to be empowered for the foreseeable future in this country. I'm guessing becoming a Sasquatch and staying in the shadows will be the key to avoiding the era of ignorant bullying that was voted into office. Be safe out there!
 
riverman said:
I'm afraid a lot of dangerously crazed intolerant people are going to be empowered for the foreseeable future in this country. I'm guessing becoming a Sasquatch and staying in the shadows will be the key to avoiding the era of ignorant bullying that was voted into office. Be safe out there!
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Hide and seek champions of the world.
 
riverman said:
I'm afraid a lot of dangerously crazed intolerant people are going to be empowered for the foreseeable future in this country. I'm guessing becoming a Sasquatch and staying in the shadows will be the key to avoiding the era of ignorant bullying that was voted into office. Be safe out there!
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Same. I'm always so tuned into politics that the first couple of hours of the new President being sworn in, I lost my appetite and just don't want to hear it. Going to be a rough time. Social media has been so skewed with conservative garbage it's hard to stay on for very long.
 
Lovely moves by Trump in pulling security details from Bolton, Pompeo and others who are known to still be on Iran's hit list. Trump: 'Say nasty things about me, or fail to kiss the ring appropriately and you can just go die.'
 
e_blazer said:
Lovely moves by Trump in pulling security details from Bolton, Pompeo and others who are known to still be on Iran's hit list. Trump: 'Say nasty things about me, or fail to kiss the ring appropriately and you can just go die.'
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In Trump's defense, those are an awful group of people who have dragged America into war on more than one occasion.
 
AmirIcon said:
In Trump's defense, those are an awful group of people who have dragged America into war on more than one occasion.
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So you expose them to a sentence of death because you don't agree with their policy decisions? I wonder if Trump is willing to accept that same standard once he's out of office.
 
AmirIcon said:
In Trump's defense, those are an awful group of people who have dragged America into war on more than one occasion.
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Serious question...Bolton is a hawk who wanted war with Iran and North Korea we know but didn't succeed with his plan...Pompeo as Secretary of Defense focused a lot on Taiwan relations and keeping China out of Taiwan. Both Trump appointees who broke ranks with him for different reasons but what wars do you think they dragged us into? Multiple wars have been going on since the dawn of history but I'm failing to attach any to those two guys. Maybe I'm missing something here? Bolton has been a talking head in the media since he was fired, Pompeo faded into the shadows.Both testified against Trump during the Jan 6th investigation. Taking away their security is not a dignified move by the president given Iran has threatened both with assassinations whether I agree with them on policy or not.
 
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crandc said:
Had President Clinton, Obama, Biden pardoned the most notorious drug dealer of their era they would have been impeached and thrown out of office as unfit. Their own party would turn against them. Nevertheless, every Democrat from here to eternity would have drug dealer label stuck to them.

How many people are even aware Trump gave full unconditional pardon to biggest online dope pusher? Who is a folk hero on the right!

I guess for those who worship a decrepit man peddling lies, bigotry, and eternal self pity, cocaine and heroin are no big deal.
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As long as said drug dealer wears a red MAGA hat they’re good to go
 
crandc said:
Had President Clinton, Obama, Biden pardoned the most notorious drug dealer of their era they would have been impeached and thrown out of office as unfit. Their own party would turn against them. Nevertheless, every Democrat from here to eternity would have drug dealer label stuck to them.

How many people are even aware Trump gave full unconditional pardon to biggest online dope pusher? Who is a folk hero on the right!

I guess for those who worship a decrepit man peddling lies, bigotry, and eternal self pity, cocaine and heroin are no big deal.
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I honestly think Ulbricht's case should have been thrown out anyway. The agent who arrested/made the case against him were corrupt as hell and stole millions of his bitcoin.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they fabricated evidence to get him out of the way.

Office of Public Affairs | Former DEA Agent Sentenced for Extortion, Money Laundering and Obstruction Related to Silk Road Investigation | United States Department of Justice
 
riverman said:
Serious question...Bolton is a hawk who wanted war with Iran and North Korea we know but didn't succeed with his plan...Pompeo as Secretary of State focused a lot on Taiwan relations and keeping China out of Taiwan. Both Trump appointees who broke ranks with him for different reasons but what wars do you think they dragged us into? Multiple wars have been going on since the dawn of history but I'm failing to attach any to those two guys. Maybe I'm missing something here? Bolton has been a talking head in the media since he was fired, Pompeo faded into the shadows.Both testified against Trump during the Jan 6th investigation. Taking away their security is not a dignified move by the president given Iran has threatened both with assassinations whether I agree with them on policy or not.
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You did miss something. Coups don't happen in a vacuum. Thousands die because of it. And those citizens in those countries are left in much worse situations because of it.

 
e_blazer said:
So you expose them to a sentence of death because you don't agree with their policy decisions? I wonder if Trump is willing to accept that same standard once he's out of office.
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Nobody says they didn't agree with the Nazis' "policy decisions." They are terrorists plain and simple. They should be treated as such.
 
AmirIcon said:
Nobody says they didn't agree with the Nazis' "policy decisions." They are terrorists plain and simple. They should be treated as such.
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Pompeo was Trump’s Secretary of Defense. Anything he did was under Trump’s direction/reponsibility. Same with Bolton. He was Trump’s National Security Advisor. I guess Trump should cancel his own security detail and take his chances with the Iranians.

The fact that the US has traditionally protected people like this as administrations change is just one of a multitude of things that separate us from dictatorships and banana republics.
 
AmirIcon said:
You did miss something. Coups don't happen in a vacuum. Thousands die because of it. And those citizens in those countries are left in much worse situations because of it.

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As a war vet myself I differentiate between instigating a coup from being dragged into a war....Bolton never succeeded in starting a war which Congress has to declare...covert actions are a different form of instigation. I've no doubt Bolton would have loved to go to war with Iran and N Korea. He didn't though. I'm sure he was covertly involved in the South Sudan Civil war as well as in the Congo's battle for the cobalt mines...places the world media just doesn't pay any attention to. I don't like Bolton or Pompeo for the record nor trust either of them. The one good thing Pompeo did was stand up to China in defense of Taiwan. That's a plus in my world.
 
e_blazer said:
Pompeo was Trump’s Secretary of Defense. Anything he did was under Trump’s direction/reponsibility. Same with Bolton. He was Trump’s National Security Advisor. I guess Trump should cancel his own security detail and take his chances with the Iranians.

The fact that the US has traditionally protected people like this as administrations change is just one of a multitude of things that separate us from dictatorships and banana republics.
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We ARE the reason for dictatorships and banana republics around the globe. Again, not in a vacuum. These people take money to push war with our citizens and tax dollars for their benefit.
 
riverman said:
As a war vet myself I differentiate between instigating a coup from being dragged into a war....Bolton never succeeded in starting a war which Congress has to declare...covert actions are a different form of instigation. I've no doubt Bolton would have loved to go to war with Iran and N Korea. He didn't though. I'm sure he was covertly involved in the South Sudan Civil war as well as in the Congo's battle for the cobalt mines...places the world media just doesn't pay any attention to. I don't like Bolton or Pompeo for the record nor trust either of them. The one good thing Pompeo did was stand up to China in defense of Taiwan. That's a plus in my world.
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Bolton was in favor of the Iraq and Afghan wars and did his hardest to make it happen. He wanted Iran included which he did not get. Not a good guy. A war monger and terrorist with every definition of the word.
 
AmirIcon said:
Bolton was in favor of the Iraq and Afghan wars and did his hardest to make it happen. He wanted Iran included which he did not get. Not a good guy. A war monger and terrorist with every definition of the word.
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Your viewpoints on the actions of these folks is not the purpose of this thread.
 
AmirIcon said:
I dislike Trump more than anyone, but jumping to the defense of Bolton and Pompeo is a weird flex.
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You miss the entire point. Trump is acting in a way that puts these people in extreme danger. No matter what you think of these people, Trump isn’t judge and jury.
 
e_blazer said:
You miss the entire point. Trump is acting in a way that puts these people in extreme danger. No matter what you think of these people, Trump isn’t judge and jury.
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Does their security not cost tax payers? Maybe don't push to commit terrorism around the world and expect to hide behind your tax payer-funded security detail.

Pulling their security doesn't make him judge or jury.
 
Andy Ogles of Tennessee is crafting a bill to allow Trump to run for a 3rd term.
 
MickZagger said:
Andy Ogles of Tennessee is crafting a bill to allow Trump to run for a 3rd term.
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Like here's the thing that baffles me... they said Biden was too old. But Trump will be older than Biden at the end of his term. Yet they want to have a 3rd term for him? Holy shit.

If you voted for Trump, know you got played and you can not apologize for causing the hurt you put on the people you claimed to love. If you loved them, you wouldn't have voted for Trump. This is a fact, not an opinion.
 
MickZagger said:
Andy Ogles of Tennessee is crafting a bill to allow Trump to run for a 3rd term.
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Not going to happen. They would need a 2/3 vote in both chambers plus 38 states to ratify it. Just a Trump loyalist kissing ass.
 
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