Politics Dont like the guy...but I like his decision

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julius said:
I meant that we as Americans tend to get riled up about something, and then don't do anything about it. We have short attention spans. The 'US' makes it 'worse' thing is how we stick our noses in other nations business, and back out all the time. this isn't the first time we've supported a group only to change our mind.
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Montagnards come to mind.
 
MARIS61 said:
POTUS Trump promised to get us out and leave the ME alone, as they wish. A win-win for all.

He is cleaning house of war-mongerers in our government who have used our military for profit. He brought home half of our soldiers in Syria last year, and is now gradually removing the rest as promised. People really need to support him in this. It's a rare moment in history, certainly the first in my lifetime, where we had a President who truly believes the US does not have to be the world's policeman.

Nobody abandoned the Kurds, they've known for a year we were leaving. They are communist terrorists who Obama found useful. I don't want to finance and back their murderous acts.
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Get us out of where? No one is leaving Syria and 1,800 are being added to Saudi Arabia. That looks to me like adding rather than bringing home.
 
MARIS61 said:
Did not.
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LOL, that's because Trump's government provides zero funds to Doctors Without Borders. And why? Because any agency that provides any abortion assistance whatsoever is prohibited from receiving any funds at all from the US government under Trump.
 
If you remain one of the supporters of the decision to up and leave the Kurdish people to fend for themselves you should definitely google “Kurdish mom baby”, or go to twitter and find it.
 
I expect Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat candidate in 2020.
She would be ideal to get sucked into fighting for the Kurd's. I am sure Nancy and gang would vote the funds and the authorization for 10 or 15 years of that grand plan.

I suspect that she would have fought ISIS, and then left the troops on the Turk boarder even though she knew the TURKS were coming. Sure as hell some would be home in bags now, and you all would be worked as hell for fight with the Turks.

Sacrificing a few grunts wouldn't bother her. See Benghazi.
 
MarAzul said:
I expect Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat candidate in 2020.
She would be ideal to get sucked into fighting for the Kurd's. I am sure Nancy and gang would vote the funds and the authorization for 10 or 15 years of that grand plan.

I suspect that she would have fought ISIS, and then left the troops on the Turk boarder even though she knew the TURKS were coming. Sure as hell some would be home in bags now, and you all would be worked as hell for fight with the Turks.

Sacrificing a few grunts wouldn't bother her. See Benghazi.
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Sounds like a bunch of manufactured bullshit marzy. You are learning well in how to scoop up the manure.
 
Lanny said:
Get us out of where? No one is leaving Syria and 1,800 are being added to Saudi Arabia. That looks to me like adding rather than bringing home.
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Plus the thousands and thousands of other troops located in hostile environments all across Europe and the Middle East. It appears this was just a ploy to allow Turkey to come in and attack the Kurds and take over a part of a country that doesn't belong to them.
 
calvin natt said:
I’m not sure how we can say we’ve “defeated ISIS”. Like they are all gone. They packed their bags and went home and just gave up. Maybe they turned all their guns in while they are at it, will go get jobs at the local Starbucks and raise beautiful kids. I mean, we defeated them. They are done. Right.
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Islamic terrorism will never seize to exist, and they kill their own. This really isn't about Turkey, Syria and others it's the hate they have for one another as a people of same origin, its Shia against Sunni, its tye insurgency into each others countries and the threat those insurgency pose to one another. It's a sad deal imo, only the Muslem nations themselves can step up and address these civil wars and if they cant it continue on like it has for centuries.
 
Hoopguru said:
Islamic terrorism will never seize to exist, and they kill their own. This really isn't about Turkey, Syria and others it's the hate they have for one another as a people of same origin, its Shia against Sunni, its tye insurgency into each others countries and the threat those insurgency pose to one another. It's a sad deal imo, only the Muslem nations themselves can step up and address these civil wars and if they cant it continue on like it has for centuries.
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So you have made it clear you were very pro about pulling troops from Syria (even though that hasn't been the case and appears more lie than truth) how do you feel about what is happening in that region and do you think we should have allowed Turkey to come in and attack the Kurds at free wheel after they helped us to help clean up the area? It appears to have been a very poorly placed plan or it was intentional to allow Turkey to have their way. We had minimal exposure in Syria where as we have tons of troops in Afghanistan and other areas that are more critical. Why not pull those troops?
 
CupWizier said:
So you have made it clear you were very pro about pulling troops from Syria (even though that hasn't been the case and appears more lie than truth) how do you feel about what is happening in that region and do you think we should have allowed Turkey to come in and attack the Kurds at free wheel after they helped us to help clean up the area? It appears to have been a very poorly placed plan or it was intentional to allow Turkey to have their way. We had minimal exposure in Syria where as we have tons of troops in Afghanistan and other areas that are more critical. Why not pull those troops?
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To be honest Cup its a real pickle for many of those countries, as I didn't see a positive outcome with Turkey and the Kurds even with our few troops there along the border, Turkey made it clear they were going to deal with what they felt is an insurgency threatening their space, even with our troops there at one point or another. Again, the hate there is so deep amongst Sunnis & Shite. I don't like it when any country invades another country and innocent people are killed. Where are the other Muslim nations standing in the gap. It would seem to me that all those countries regardless of religious sect would be wanting to tackle ISSIS but they wont help each other to help themselves. Is that civilized?
Sure we have the power in that region to turn them all to green glass but hat shouldn't ever happen. But how they don't think twice about waring against each other there should happen either.
I knew when Obama pulled out of Iraq it would mean more death's at the hands of ISSIS and others which was and is sad.
My son is in that region for the next year and my hope is that them being there would be helpful in some way but there are many faction there that don't see it that way and would rather see our guys gone. One way or the other.
War is never the answer so Im hoping some kind of agreement with everyone who call that area home would be prevail and prevent innocent people from being killed.
 
Hoopguru said:
To be honest Cup its a real pickle for many of those countries, as I didn't see a positive outcome with Turkey and the Kurds even with our few troops there along the border, Turkey made it clear they were going to deal with what they felt is an insurgency threatening their space, even with our troops there at one point or another. Again, the hate there is so deep amongst Sunnis & Shite. I don't like it when any country invades another country and innocent people are killed. Where are the other Muslim nations standing in the gap. It would seem to me that all those countries regardless of religious sect would be wanting to tackle ISSIS but they wont help each other to help themselves. Is that civilized?
Sure we have the power in that region to turn them all to green glass but hat shouldn't ever happen. But how they don't think twice about waring against each other there should happen either.
I knew when Obama pulled out of Iraq it would mean more death's at the hands of ISSIS and others which was and is sad.
My son is in that region for the next year and my hope is that them being there would be helpful in some way but there are many faction there that don't see it that way and would rather see our guys gone. One way or the other.
War is never the answer so Im hoping some kind of agreement with everyone who call that area home would be prevail and prevent innocent people from being killed.
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Now we have isis prisoners escaping, civilians being killed and utter chaos in that region where as it had been quiet. Seems this call by trump to opening up for Turkey to attack has created even more chaos. Similar to what has happened since trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal and now he has shown don't trust America as we can abandon you at a moments notice.
 
CupWizier said:
Now we have isis prisoners escaping, civilians being killed and utter chaos in that region where as it had been quiet. Seems this call by trump to opening up for Turkey to attack has created even more chaos. Similar to what has happened since trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal and now he has shown don't trust America as we can abandon you at a moments notice.
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Don’t worry. We have defeated ISIS

 
Hoopguru said:
To be honest Cup its a real pickle for many of those countries, as I didn't see a positive outcome with Turkey and the Kurds even with our few troops there along the border, Turkey made it clear they were going to deal with what they felt is an insurgency threatening their space, even with our troops there at one point or another. Again, the hate there is so deep amongst Sunnis & Shite. I don't like it when any country invades another country and innocent people are killed. Where are the other Muslim nations standing in the gap. It would seem to me that all those countries regardless of religious sect would be wanting to tackle ISSIS but they wont help each other to help themselves. Is that civilized?
Sure we have the power in that region to turn them all to green glass but hat shouldn't ever happen. But how they don't think twice about waring against each other there should happen either.
I knew when Obama pulled out of Iraq it would mean more death's at the hands of ISSIS and others which was and is sad.
My son is in that region for the next year and my hope is that them being there would be helpful in some way but there are many faction there that don't see it that way and would rather see our guys gone. One way or the other.
War is never the answer so Im hoping some kind of agreement with everyone who call that area home would be prevail and prevent innocent people from being killed.
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Our few troops there had the US Air Force and their enforcement of a no fly zone. That Air Force is no longer there.
 
Kurdish prisoners of war are being executed.

Trump wants to get out of wars in Middle East but sent troops to help Saudi Arabia, which has created major humanitarian disaster in Yemen. Trump has properties in Saudi Arabia and Turkey. But I'm sure just coincidence.

Not widely reported that Kurdish-held areas were arguably most democratic in the Middle East. They were governed by decentralized town councils, elected. Their charter specifies freedom of speech, equality of all religions, and equal rights for women. Women participate actively in councils and fight in militias. To ensure government does not favor any religion over others, clergy are not allowed to serve on the councils.

That is clearly not something autocrats and wannabes like.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Id like this but its way too freaking sad. We need an agree button... :(
 
2800 troops are going to Saudi.

Because they apparently agreed to pay for it. And uncle Donald agreed.

Didn't realize the military could be hired mercenaries.
 
illmatic99 said:
2800 troops are going to Saudi.

Because they apparently agreed to pay for it. And uncle Donald agreed.

Didn't realize the military could be hired mercenaries.
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Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”
—Major George Racey Jordan

I say that and I realize that it's somewhat hypocritical as fiscally I lean right...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”
—Major George Racey Jordan

I say that and I realize that it's somewhat hypocritical as fiscally I lean right...
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Unfortunately this group of republicans aren't fiscally responsible as we have a president that spends spends and spends and then lies, lies and lies and his party enables it.
 
CupWizier said:
Unfortunately this group of republicans aren't fiscally responsible as we have a president that spends spends and spends and then lies, lies and lies and his party enables it.
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I wasn't really commenting on the current regime's financial decisions, just saying that I realize that I tend to think more like a capitalist in terms of economics and so I realize that acknowledging there are negative effects of the way I would make decisions may come across as hypocritical to some.
 
CupWizier said:
Unfortunately this group of republicans aren't fiscally responsible as we have a president that spends spends and spends and then lies, lies and lies and his party enables it.
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There's absolutely nothing good you can say about this ass we have inflicted on ourselves as President.
 
Trump is keeping the troops in place. Good.
 
ABM said:
Trump is keeping the troops in place. Good.
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Damage is done. And no, he's not. He's installing sanctions (that too, on only steel) that are a day late and a a dollar short.
 
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