Draft Archetypes

[Rastapopoulos]

Here are some archetypes. Nominate this year's version.

The Clarence Weatherspoon: undersized PF whom everybody says can either play SF or be the next Charles Barkley, but turns out, can't.

The Pavel Podkolzine: nobody knows if he can play but check out the measurements!!!

The Joe Alexander: Look how high he can jump! Oh, the upside!

The Tony Allen: fairly inept on O but so ferocious on perimeter D that it makes up for it.

The Taj Gibson: "he's too old!" "Very low ceiling!" Drops to the low first/early second and turns out to be a very good rotation player.

The Shelden Williams: Puts up great numbers for a great program and gets drafted way too high.

The Paul Millsap: had great numbers for an obscure school and ends up being a steal because of doubts about measurements

The Paul Pierce: the surprise slipper who comes back to be great

Feel free to add your own.

 

[julius]

The Sebastian Telfair An undersized, overhyped PG who dominated in the overrated, narcissistic city of New York and was drafted by a complete idiot.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The Clarence Weatherspoon: Anthony Bennett.

The Pavel Podkolzine: Rudy Gobert

The Joe Alexander: Cody Zeller

The Tony Allen: Gorgui Dieng

The Taj Gibson: Mason Plumlee

The Shelden Williams: Kelly Olynyk / Michael Carter-Williams

The Paul Millsap: Tony Mitchell

The Paul Pierce: Shabazz Muhammad

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Good choices, MM. Interesting cross-positional nomination of Dieng.

I see Muhammad as either a Beasley (high-rated, drafted high, bust) or a Bayless (high-rated, dropped in the draft, but not quite far enough), myself.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I agree with several of MM's nominations

• The Clarence Weatherspoon: Anthony Bennett.
• The Pavel Podkolzine: Rudy Gobert
• The Joe Alexander: DJ Stephens
• The Tony Allen: Gorgui Dieng (I really like this one!)
• The Taj Gibson: Jeff Withey
• The Shelden Williams: Cody Zeller
• The Paul Millsap: Jamal Franklin
• The Paul Pierce: Ben McLemore (I don't know why, but I just have a feeling he might drop a couple spots unexpectedly)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I had Dieng as the Taj Gibson, myself, as people can't stop noting that he's 23.

 

[MickZagger]

Greg Oden The big black guy Center hung like a horse, that lets his dogs fall off balcony's and is built of glass.

 

[Run BJM]

Tracy McGrady a really young wing player with incredible physical tools but nowhere near the skill or mental fortitude for anyone to compare them to Kobe Bryant. See: Green, Gerald; DeRozan, Demar.

Mark Price whitey PG who balled ass in college, probably from a mid-major conference. Great all around skills but again no ones comparing to Steve Nash or John Stockton because everyone knows they've still got a REALLY high bust ratio due to lack of athletic ability.

Luol Deng wing player with good size who no one has the balls to call as either a complete bust nor a legit star. Lacking in "it" factor and ability to take over games.

Derrick Coleman/Weatherspoon/Tractor Trailer fat fuck who has talent but needs to drop weight to do anything in the league.

Larry Hughes/Marquis Daniels we love to oogle this guy's PG skills but since the last 12 6'5+ guys who we touted as true PGs all ended up being busts we're gonna go conservative. See: Hodge, Julius; Weaver, Kyle; Livingston, Shaun; Crittenton, Javaris; Brewer, Ronnie; Wroten, Tony.

 

[MickZagger]

Patrick O'Bryant

Scrubby center taken in the lottery for the sole reason, because he's 7'0"

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Got some more for this year:
The Marcus Camby/Tyson Chandler - athletic big man who will dominate on D and disappoint on O
The Ben Wallace - bulkier than the above and not half as heralded
The Steph Curry/Damian Lillard - small school superstar that nobody knows whether it'll translate
The Kyle Korver - pure shooter who will drop because people are scared he's...
The Adam Morrison - star in college, bust in the NBA.
The Pops Mensah-Bonsu/Jerome "JYD" Williams - great athlete who puts up great stats but plays out of control so bounces around from team to team (ours was Thomas Robinson)
The Russell Westbrook - (in the draft, that is) you have to gamble on him because he wasn't given minutes on a stacked college team. The big version is The Zach Randolph
And everyone's favorite this year:
The Draymond Green - heralded college player who drops because of size/speed concerns, but who ends up being a total steal, and can defend multiple positions

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I never follow College BBall - I try to catch up between Portland ending play and the draft, so these will be guesses:
The Taj Gibson - Rakeem Christmas
The Paul Millsap - Alan Williams (UCSB) (Because Richaun Holmes would be too obvious)
The Marcus Camby - Willie Cauley-Stein
The Pops Mensah-Bonsu - Montrezl Harrell
The Draymond Green - Branden Dawson (this is more because he's a very versatile defender from Michigan State, but he has very little offense to speak of. However, if he goes undrafted, I hope we're the first people on the phone to him)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Presumably Cameron Payne is supposed to be the Damian this year, although he's more like The Elfrid Payton, who was last year's Curry/Lillard. If you follow that.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[oldfisherman]

The Jerome Kersey- Very athletic with small hands and a big heart from a small girl’s school with a very new men’s BB program.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

The Jerome Kersey- Very athletic with small hands and a big heart from a small girl’s school with a very new men’s BB program.

That's pretty specific...

But here's a guy who's second in the NCAA in PER, won't get drafted, is absurdly athletic and is seen playing against Longwood (Jerome's school) in this video:
Javonte Green

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

The Joe Alexander: Mario Hezonja

The Tony Allen: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

The Taj Gibson: Aaron White

The Shelden Williams: Trey Lyles

The Paul Millsap: Tyler Harvey

The Paul Pierce: Stanley Johnson

The Steph Curry: RJ Hunter

The Tyson Chandler: Karl Towns

The Draymond Green: Brandon Ashley

The Larry Hughes: Emmanuel Mudiay

 

[BigGameDamian]

Clarence Weatherspoon may not have lived up to the hype but he had a very solid career. In 93-94 he averaged a double double. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/896/clarence-weatherspoon

 

[jlprk]

Here's a category full of so many young players I can't count them. The tallest guy in the league, who also moves like a guard.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The Clarence Weatherspoon: undersized PF whom everybody says can either play SF or be the next Charles Barkley, but turns out, can't. -- Jarrell Martin

The Pavel Podkolzine: nobody knows if he can play but check out the measurements!!! -- Rakeem Christmas

The Joe Alexander: Look how high he can jump! Oh, the upside! -- Pat Connaughton

The Tony Allen: fairly inept on O but so ferocious on perimeter D that it makes up for it. -- Montrezl Harrell: Not a perimeter defender but this describes how I think he'll translate.

The Taj Gibson: "he's too old!" "Very low ceiling!" Drops to the low first/early second and turns out to be a very good rotation player. -- Delon Wright

The Shelden Williams: Puts up great numbers for a great program and gets drafted way too high. -- Kevon Looney: Not great numbers, but solid: 12/9/22PER -- a few years away from being a few years away. Maybe Trey Lyles?

The Paul Pierce: the surprise slipper who comes back to be great -- R.J. Hunter

 

[Rastapopoulos]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-typ...their-2015-draft-hypotheticals-215631524.html

 

[oldmangrouch]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-typ...their-2015-draft-hypotheticals-215631524.html

Good find.

 

[ripcityboy]

I would like to add to this, being a Timbers fan, The Let's Take a Trip To South America and Sign Somebody on A Transfer Player...... hi Mr. Valeri!

 

[riverman]

Christian Wood ....Lisa Leslie

 

[riverman]

Me...Wes Mathews..both undrafted and both sustained injuries that suck too early in life