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Gorton has done nothing but suck as GM. Looks like a clown. Kravtsov and Miller look like soft millennials

Struds, you can dislike miller but "soft" I don't think so. This kid is an animal.

K’Andre Miller comes from the school of Brent Burns in that he was a forward who was converted to defenseman. He’s been on the blue-line for a couple of years now, and the results have started to pay dividends.
What stands out about Miller is his sheer athleticism. At 6’3.25 and 198 pounds - and most of that is pure muscle - he is in a class of his own at the junior level. He has a long reach that he uses to break up zone entry attempts. His strength shows on the ice. He doesn’t exactly have a tough time knocking players off the puck. Among U18 defensemen, he is probably the one I imagine players would least like to engage with in a physical battle.

This kid will get excellent coaching on D at wisconsin for 2 to 3 years and then be ready to join the rangers. The more I see and read of this kid the more I like him. Not concerned we had to give up a mid 2nd to get him as a couple of teams wen tD right after this and could've taken him. We are rebuilding the right way imo and don't forget we have a to of cap space that can be filled with a free agent or 2 once we get closer. Trying to find some more info on our first pick now
 


What I could find. Good size and speed. Seems more of a playmaker than scorer at this point but had scoring surge in russian version of stanley cup finals. Will be in russia for 1 year than will be heading over here. Looks like a riser which I guess is what were swinging for but at this point at least I would still rather have had walstrom. We'll see.
 
Struds, you can dislike miller but "soft" I don't think so. This kid is an animal.

K’Andre Miller comes from the school of Brent Burns in that he was a forward who was converted to defenseman. He’s been on the blue-line for a couple of years now, and the results have started to pay dividends.
What stands out about Miller is his sheer athleticism. At 6’3.25 and 198 pounds - and most of that is pure muscle - he is in a class of his own at the junior level. He has a long reach that he uses to break up zone entry attempts. His strength shows on the ice. He doesn’t exactly have a tough time knocking players off the puck. Among U18 defensemen, he is probably the one I imagine players would least like to engage with in a physical battle.

This kid will get excellent coaching on D at wisconsin for 2 to 3 years and then be ready to join the rangers. The more I see and read of this kid the more I like him. Not concerned we had to give up a mid 2nd to get him as a couple of teams wen tD right after this and could've taken him. We are rebuilding the right way imo and don't forget we have a to of cap space that can be filled with a free agent or 2 once we get closer. Trying to find some more info on our first pick now

Agreed, this kid was by far my favorite pick so far. He’s already a stud and think of the room he has to improve while continuing to learn the position. We haven’t had a player like him on the blue line in a long time.
 


What I could find. Good size and speed. Seems more of a playmaker than scorer at this point but had scoring surge in russian version of stanley cup finals. Will be in russia for 1 year than will be heading over here. Looks like a riser which I guess is what were swinging for but at this point at least I would still rather have had walstrom. We'll see.


Yep pretty much. That’s not the highlight reel of a top 10 pick. I understand you don’t just judge on highlights, but without that playoff scoring streak the guy goes in the 20s. Just don’t like the pick at all. Hope I’m wrong.
 
What the F did they just take a goalie for in the 2nd round?
 
Hold on we just took a goalie in round 2? A fucking goalie? What in the world are we doing?
 
It is really difficult to have faith in Gorton and Clark anymore. I don't know what our direction is and what the F we are doing. It appears we are going to suck for a few years, that is almost a given, but these picks are head scratchers.

And even if Miller turns out to be a good player, the poor use of assets still stands with Gorton. You trade a mid 2nd to move up 4 spots in the 20's? If you like the Russian kid trade down. Take a goalie who was rated lower than 39. He is awful at using his assets properly. And we still have a bunch of RFA's.

This guy is really starting to anger me now. Going to be a LONG handful of years coming up. Wonder what Hank is thinking.
 
This is kind of embarrassing now. Tired of the Rangers thinking they are smarter than everyone else with their ridiculous draft board that is wrong most of the time.



At 39, the Rangers have selected Swedish goalie Olof Lindbom, the first goalie selected in the draft.

He was ranked 59th by The Hockey News and as the 4th best goalie in the draft by McKeens.

He was ranked 91st by McKeens, 251 by Future Considerations, 9th best goalie by ISS, 137th by Hockey Prospect and 53rd by TSN.

TSN's Craig Button said, "strong positioning and doesn't beat himself. Reads plays and is very attuned to the challenges coming his way. Good skill."

His skills were listed by Button as 4/5 for competitiveness and net coverage, 3.5/5 in shill, quickness and rebound control.

With all of the prospects they have, I did not expect the Rangers to go goalie this early in the draft. Obviously he was high on their board and he had some good success for Sweden at international tournaments. He was a teammate at times with Nils Lundqkvist so the Rangers must have seen him a lot and view him as someone who, down the line, could possibly be a starting goalie for the Rangers.
 
I don't have an issue with round 1 except for the trade-up, but taking a goalie rated 6th at his position in the 2nd is ridiculous.
 
Here is why I disagree, value of assets. I may not have an issue with the individual players, I would have taken Wahl or one of the dmen over Kravtsov, but Krav looks like he has good upside so he could be very good. Issue is the value though. Could have traded down and gotten him. Didn't have to deal a 2nd to move up 4 spots. And now take a goalie ranked WAY lower than where we took him.

Makes it appear as if Gorton has no clue how to value assets correctly. But hey, we have our own crazy board...that usually works out well. They had Krav as their 2nd rated forward, if so trade down a few spots.
 
The 2nd round pick is just inexplicable to me with all the goalies in the system and a guy you could've gotten in the 4th probably. I'm starting to wonder if Clark is the guy anymore.
 
I'm not doing any homework on the goalie pick as he's the 5th rated goalie, taken at a position arguably our strongest and makes no sense to me. :curse::curse::curse::curse::curse:. And as Clark Gable would be saying "Frankly my dear I don't give a shit".
 
For some reason it seems this org just doesn't like drafting Canadian prospects.
 
Not getting Kovy isn't so much about the player to me as it is what it represents. Clearly we are all in on this rebuild. We are doing it with later picks though, not top 3 studs, which means this could take YEARS before we sniff good things again. It is very depressing to me. We will be longing for the past 6 years for the next handful plus of years I fear.

Trade Zucc now, why not I say. What is the point of keeping him. And Hank...we'll see what he has to say.
 
We definately have enough D and G prospects for the next 5y.
 
I don’t know much about the picks but it’s obvious this is now full rebuild which is probably the right way to do it even if it sucks.

This franchise never bottoms out and never gets top 5 picks. I think they will now. They need to trade Lundqvist now though.
 
Will be more trade deadline deals for first rounders next season most likely starring zucc and hayes unless Hank decides he'd like to be in another playoff run before he retires and gives the trade ok.
 
Plan appears to be totally bottom out for the next 2 or 3 years and get some top 3 picks, maybe even a # 1 pick, and then build back up in 2022 or so. Is what it is. I would deal Zucc now though (I do not risk injury or poor play this season). And I'd talk to Hank again and say you sure you want to stay here for this? We are going to stink for 3 years or so. Makes no sense for Hank to stay now.

Kovy gone and Tavares not meeting with Rangers. Path is determined. Deal Zucc and talk to Hank now.
 
The team they have I believe could be an 8th seed. They are a middle of the road team with the guys playing for them. I don’t see a top 5 pick coming anytime soon
 
8th seed? Their D is all young kids or old whatever guys. And their forwards are unproven outside of 3 or 4 of them. This is no where near a playoff team currently. I fully believe their plan is to bottom out now. And I'm sure they sign a middle of the road vet or two for 1 or 2 years to work with the kids, but this is a bad team now. Let the kids play and add a couple of high picks the next 2 or 3 years. There's your formula.
 
Even if they bottom out it still won't help. If Rangers had #1 or #2 pick, would they have chosen Dahlin or Svechnikov? I am not so sure. Clark and Gorton think they are smarter than everyone, but year after year it is proven that they are not. I watched 2010 draft and it was clear Dylan McIirath was not the right choice but they picked them. I trust TV broadcasters more than Gorton and Clarke at this point.
 
8 million a year for another 4 years? No team touching that unless you sweeten it for lindqvist
 
They would probably eat some salary in dealing HL but i don't think it happens this season, who knows though. Definately move Z and even Hayes at some point. Shatt could be a possibility too.
 
Plus who cares about salary anyway. We have nearly 30 mill in cap space, so we can retain some of his hit and take on a bad contract short term. We will have a team of young kids for 2 years at least. Cap space isn't going to be an issue. If Hank wants to go to a winner instead of playing for a bottom feeder the next 3 years, we'll find a way to deal him. Retain some of his cap hit to maximize pick return. Salary won't be an issue since we can retain and will have tons of cap space as well. I would actually think we can use that to our advantage, taking on a bad contract to add assets.
 
Other than Dahlin there were no "sure things" in this draft as is the case in every draft. I can't criticize Gorton when he was able to jettison so many players who aside from Grabner, I wouldn't want back. I liked Gorton's picks of Lias and Chytil, both seemed to perform well overseas and will probably both have a legit shot at making next year's lineup. New coach, hopefully new attitude.
 
I'm still ticked about that inexcusable 2nd rounder that Gorton or Sather didn't step in and block like they have no idea of the draft board. Not a good sign from Gorton, or Clark.
 

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