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With Afflalo opting out, that means Portland potentially got nothing for their 2016 1st round Draft pick except cap space. Two 2nd rounders spend on T-Rob also are part of that deal and two 2nd rounders were spend on Allan Crabbe as well who has so far done nothing.

So Portland has no 1st pick next year and from 2014-2018 have no 2nd round picks....so far, they have got nothing out of those. Am I missing any other picks that got traded?

One could fairly easily question NeO's use of those assets so far. Makes me a little leary of what he might do with #23 this year.

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Neil better make this draft count.

Fwiw, the 2016 draft is being compared to the 2000 draft. Yikes.
 
But Lillard and the development of CJ and Meyers makes me not worry as much.

Imagine a team with those three as starters. Look at the imaginary scoreboard: the opposing team has scored 150!

Wait, now I'm imagining Porzingis in there with them... now the scoreboard says 170 for the opposing team! And we're only in the third quarter!!!
 
Imagine a team with those three as starters. Look at the imaginary scoreboard: the opposing team has scored 150!

Wait, now I'm imagining Porzingis in there with them... now the scoreboard says 170 for the opposing team! And we're only in the third quarter!!!

As long as we have 171 points I'm not worried.
 
Draft picks are not the only thing missing around here.

The title of this forum section is, “Normal Posts”.
“Normal Posts”, I have not read one yet.
However, “Normal Posts” is an awfully good oxymoron.
 
Fwiw, the 2016 draft is being compared to the 2000 draft. Yikes.
Who was drafted then? Is '16 going to be a good or bad draft? Based on your "yikes", I'm guessing that we got royally screwed by giving up the draft pick.
Man, I should have read this thread before commenting on the Olshey thread...my opinion is slipping.
 
Who was drafted then? Is '16 going to be a good or bad draft? Based on your "yikes", I'm guessing that we got royally screwed by giving up the draft pick.

Different kind of "yikes":

1. New Jersey Kenyon Martin Cincinnati
2. Vancouver Stromile Swift LSU
3. LA Clippers Darius Miles E. Stl Louis HS
4. Chicago Marcus Fizer Iowa State
5. Orlando Mike Miller Florida
6. Atlanta DerMarr Johnson Cincinnati
7. Chicago Chris Mihm Texas
8. Cleveland Jamal Crawford Michigan
9. Houston Joel Przybilla Minnesota
10. Orlando Keyon Doolins Missouri
11. Boston Jerome Moiso UCLA
12. Dallas Etan Thomas Syracuse
13. Orlando Courtney Alexander Fresno State
14. Detroit Mateen Cleaves Michigan State
15. Milwaukee Jason Collier Georgia
16. Sacramento Hidayet Turkoglu Efes Pilson (Turkey)
17. Seattle Desmond Mason Oklahoma State
18. LA Clippers Quentin Richardson DePaul
19. Charlotte Jamaal Magloire Kentucky
20. Philadelphia Speedy Claxton Hofstra
21. Toronto Morris Peterson Michigan State
22. New York Donnell Harvey Florida
23. Utah DeShawn Stevenson Washington Union (HS)
24. Chicago Dalibor Bagaric Benston Zagreb (Croatia)
25. Phoenix Iakovos Tsakalidis AEK (Greece)
26. Denver Mamadou N'Diaye Auburn
27. Indiana Primoz Brezec Olympija Ljublijana (Slovenia)
28. Portland Erick Barkley St. John's
29. LA Lakers Mark Madsen Stanford

30. LA Clippers Marko jaric Fortitudo Bologna (Italy)
31. Dallas Dan Langhi Vanderbilt
32. Chicago A.J. Guyton Indiana
33. Chicago Jake Voskuhl Connecticut
34. Chicato Khalid El-Amin Connecticut
35. Washington Michael Smith Louisiana-Monroe
36. New Jersey Soumaila Samake Mali
37. Miami Eddie House Arizona State
38. Houston Eduardo Najera Oklahoma
39. New York Lavor Postell St. John's
40. Atlanta Hanno Mottola Utah
41. San Antonio Chris Carrawell Duke
42. Seattle Olumide Oyedeji DJK Wurzburg
43. Milwaukee Michael Redd Ohio State
44. Detroit Brian Cardinal Purdue
45. Sacramento Jabari Smith LSU
46. Toronto DeeAndre Hulett Las Vegas
47. Seattle Josip Sesar Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)
48. Philadelphia Mark Karcher Temple
49. Milwaukee Jason Hart Syracuse
50. Utah Kaniel Dickens Idaho
51. Minnesota Igor Rakocevic Red Star Belgrade
52. Miami Ernest Brown Indian Hills CC
53. Denver Den McClintock N. Arizona
54. San Antonio Corey Hightower Indian Hills CC
55. Golden State Chris Porter Auburn
56. Indiana Jacquay Wells Colorado
57. Atlanta Scoonie Penn Ohio State
58. Dallas Pete Mickeal Cincinnati

(Huh - Pete Mickeal had one of the all-time great careers... in Europe.)
 
Imagine a team with those three as starters. Look at the imaginary scoreboard: the opposing team has scored 150!

Going by the playoff 4-man lineups, CJ, Lillard, and Meyers outscore their opponent by 22 points per 100 possessions...
 
With Afflalo opting out, that means Portland potentially got nothing for their 2016 1st round Draft pick except cap space. Two 2nd rounders spend on T-Rob also are part of that deal and two 2nd rounders were spend on Allan Crabbe as well who has so far done nothing.

So Portland has no 1st pick next year and from 2014-2018 have no 2nd round picks....so far, they have got nothing out of those. Am I missing any other picks that got traded?

One could fairly easily question NeO's use of those assets so far. Makes me a little leary of what he might do with #23 this year.

:matrix:
We have the Bird rights and could sign and trade AAA. His cap hold is over 11 million so there's cap relief as well. That's something. We could still sign him to a longer contract which is what he's looking for.
 
Phew. I feel a bit better now. But I'd still really like to have that 1st rounder back...
Meh... We have New York's second rounder next draft. There will be a ton of draft and stash guys around there like Kaba, Fuzaro, Vezenkov, Luwawu, etc. After that there are good upper classmen like Gary Payton II.
 
I miss the days when Paul would buy an extra pick every year. He sold a painting a couple years ago that would pay for extra pick for the next couple decades.

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I miss the days when Paul would buy an extra pick every year. He sold a painting a couple years ago that would pay for extra pick for the next couple decades.

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I think we will buy one of Philly's picks. Just a gut feeling. Take a flyer on Upshaw.
 
You can only use $3million per year in total trades now. so if we bought a pick for $3 million, we couldnt add cash to any deals for a full year
 
If Meyers and CJ become the players they looked like in the second half of the season, NO is basically the Adam Dunn of GMs...home run or strikeout. To stretch the metaphor, the Afflalo trade feels like a deep drive that Mike Trout snagged just as it was about to go over the wall.
 
I see no problem with the trading of the our first for Affalo, don't' think it was a bad trade still think it was a great trade but no one could have guessed Wes would have gone down then Affalo would barely play before being injured and still being injured when he chose to come back and compete in the playoffs, and second round picks are being treated like royalty around here. Yea you can get steals in the 2nd but on avg what 2 of those 30 players even make it longer then 5 years in the NBA?
Even with Trob not working out and Crabbe being a no show I think Neal used the assets he had to take low risk high reward deals and the only one that has paid off is Lopez but that one paid off damn well.
 
I see no problem with the trading of the our first for Affalo, don't' think it was a bad trade still think it was a great trade but no one could have guessed Wes would have gone down then Affalo would barely play before being injured and still being injured when he chose to come back and compete in the playoffs, and second round picks are being treated like royalty around here. Yea you can get steals in the 2nd but on avg what 2 of those 30 players even make it longer then 5 years in the NBA?
Even with Trob not working out and Crabbe being a no show I think Neal used the assets he had to take low risk high reward deals and the only one that has paid off is Lopez but that one paid off damn well.

Exactly. Loved the trade. People just want to bitch and moan because it fits their agenda.
 

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