Notice |Draft| The case for Harry Giles (2 Viewers)

[Scalma]

Good; I hope he moves into the top 10. Blazers cannot afford this risk.

Because?

I'd argue Portland is in the best position to take the risk.

 

[BonesJones]

Good; I hope he moves into the top 10. Blazers cannot afford this risk.

Why not? What would we be risking that's not worth taking the chance on a guy with all-star potential?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

#Blazers absolutely love Harry Giles, per source. They have 3 picks in round 1 - look for the big man to be off the board as high as #15. - John Shultz (twitter)

 

[RR7]

I've been pretty meh about the draft, and prospects, because I'm thinking trade, but I am really hoping we take Giles. Could blow up in our face, could be us getting someone projected as a top 5 pick out of HS falling into our laps, for everyone saying we need high lotto picks to contend.

 

[santeesioux]

We have an entirely different medical staff from when Oden and Roy were here, if his knees check out I would be comfortable with taking him at 20, or even 15 if they think he still has the potential to be a starting pf.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Knowing how Neil works I doubt this is true. Loose lips get terminated - just ask Kim Hughes.

This is likely a smokescreen.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Fran Fraschilla just tweeted this:

The lying has begun. Do not believe a word from "sources" about which NBA teams like what players. It's all misdirection at this point.

 

[PDXFonz]

#Blazers absolutely love Harry Giles, per source. They have 3 picks in round 1 - look for the big man to be off the board as high as #15. - John Shultz (twitter)

Not saying anything about Ferguson is good news to me!

 

[Scalma]

Fuck I wanted Giles

 

[ripcityboy]

Fran Fraschilla just tweeted this:

The lying has begun. Do not believe a word from "sources" about which NBA teams like what players. It's all misdirection at this point.

Surprised this isn't more well known. EVERY sports teams has done this at one time or another. Football teams used to steal game film. Baseball teams will send scouts on bogus scouting trips. Misdirection can save you money or can throw shade on a player you value.

 

[Pridan]

Take him. He's worth the gamble for sure. Who would you rather put time into, him or Quarterman/Layman/Connaughton?

 

[Sarni]

Thing is, if he turns out healthy, he will be the best possible acquisition we could make in this draft and that includes people like Isaac, Tatum and Collins who are projected to go much higher than he is. The only reason why we might get a chance to draft him is because there's a lot of question marks over his fitness. If we had one pick then it'd be difficult because in a deep draft you'd prefer the player you take to contribute mid-term. We have three picks though and we can afford to use one of them on a player who might turn out to be a complete bust because of injuries. Few teams are in position to do it and IMO out of all teams who are picking higher than us the only ones who can are Denver (because they already have many young projects to develop).

It's the same with OG really. High risk because of injuries, high reward if he can get back to full fitness. He was consensus top 3 or even #1 pick last year before the injuries and we never even thought we would have got the chance to select Giles. Now we might.

I'd even consider taking Giles at 20 or even 15 if needed. We can then get someone without fitness issues with the other picks.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Knowing how Neil works I doubt this is true. Loose lips get terminated - just ask Kim Hughes.

This is likely a smokescreen.

As much as I agree with this, I have to wonder what the purpose would be. Is it just to obfuscate from our true target at 15, preventing teams above us from having leverage over us? Or are we trying to bait someone below us who's also interested in Giles to trade up to 15 to get him?

 

[TBpup]

Knowing how Neil works I doubt this is true. Loose lips get terminated - just ask Kim Hughes.

This is likely a smokescreen.

That sounds very much like it came from an agent and not the Blazers.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That sounds very much like it came from an agent and not the Blazers.

Ahh, that makes sense. "Blazers love my guy and will probably snatch him up at 15; if you want him, you better trade into the lottery to get him (and consequently have to pay him and me more than you were expecting to...)"

 

[HailBlazers]

If Giles knees at all check out he won't be there at 15.

 

[TBpup]

If Giles knees at all check out he won't be there at 15.

He'll have to show better than the 27"/32.5" vertical he did at the combine. Also, he won't play C in the NBA so he will have to show he has the ability to add some range.

 

[illmatic99]

Giles has some Thabeet potential. High ceiling, really low floor.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Because?

I'd argue Portland is in the best position to take the risk.

I'm glad I found something that you and Bones-Jones agree on.

 

[Pinwheel1]

He'll have to show better than the 27"/32.5" vertical he did at the combine. Also, he won't play C in the NBA so he will have to show he has the ability to add some range.

I know it was just HS highlights, but the video in the OP does show he has some handles. (And range) so I don't think it will be an issue compared to some other "centers" in the draft.

 

[Scalma]

Would anyone be surprised if he went in the lottery?

 

[RR7]

He'll have to show better than the 27"/32.5" vertical he did at the combine. Also, he won't play C in the NBA so he will have to show he has the ability to add some range.

He certainly looked more athletic than that in some of his highlight videos, so it's definitely possible we can chalk it up to a bad day. However, that # is higher than guys like Durant, Kawhi, DeAndre, Bobby Portis, Larry Sanders, Klay Thompson, Whiteside, Javale McGee, etc. I've seen the vertical #s posted a lot in criticism of him. It seems pretty silly.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm okay picking him because we have 3 picks. If we only had 15 or 20 or 26 alone, I'd be more dubious. Can compensate with the other picks if he busts.

 

[Trackjack]

One thing I notice that Giles didn't have his brace on when he was here for his draft workout.

 

[Trackjack]

I don't he will go lottery I think he will be there at 15. Now I don't know about Indiana that pick before us at 20. He is working out for Indiana and Pritchard is in charge over there now. If it was Bird in charge I don't know if he would take him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Would anyone be surprised if he went in the lottery?

I certainly would.

If Giles, Luke Kennard, Donovan Mitchell, and John Collins all elevate to the lottery as some have speculated, Zach Collins could conceivably drop to us. That's insane.

 

[illmatic99]

I certainly would.

If Giles, Luke Kennard, Donovan Mitchell, and John Collins all elevate to the lottery as some have speculated, Zach Collins could conceivably drop to us. That's insane.

Or Lauri.

Haven't heard much of him during this predraft process.

 

[dviss1]

If we take Giles with the #15 @BonesJones and I will both punch walls in @Orion Bailey's house.

 

[Schilly]

It's weird you almost never hear about ACL tears at the NBA level anymore. I have heard recently that most ACL tears can be prevented by proper pre-activity stretching and warmup. I wonder if most NBA trainers are really on top of this kind of thing now. They know what pre-symptoms to look for and make sure those players are taken care of properly. Makes me think that ACL isn't a condemning injury as it used to be. The meniscus on the other hand depending on how it was treated could be a different story IMO.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If we take Giles with the #15 @BonesJones and I will both punch walls in @Orion Bailey's house.

Now that's a reason to come to the draft party!!