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You should check out what's happening across the world. It isn't just NJ or Oregon, it's the world. The UFO stuff is real and it is knocking at our door step. I'm hearing early 2025 "all hell will break loose." I brought up this issue a while back and was dismissed around these parts.

Yeah, the aliens see Trump is going to be president again. They will wipe out the earth to make way for a galactic hyper express route.
 
Covid was worldwide also. And likewise, used as a giant excuse to further legislate away personal freedoms. There’s no reason western governments couldn’t coordinate to pull some bullshit on a worldwide scale.
Aliens didn’t travel light years to fly ‘drones’ around on planet earth. We’re being fucked with by people in suits who aren’t very clever.

These are not mutually exclusive. NHI DO exist. And government might try to take up more power. The drones over sensitive military bases has been happening for over a year now. And NHI has a habit of mimicry.
 
Yeah, the aliens see Trump is going to be president again. They will wipe out the earth to make way for a galactic hyper express route.

It doesn't have anything to do with Trump. Though the establishment might be acting out as a way of starting conflicts with Trump getting into office.
 
Unidentified flying objects of Earth origin or oh fuck, aliens?

Because this is absolutely NOT oh fuck, aliens.

You sound confident about what it is. Why don't you tell us? I don't know what it is. But this is happening all over the world. You have multiple police accounts of these coming out of the ocean.
 
Unidentified flying objects of Earth origin or oh fuck, aliens?

Because this is absolutely NOT oh fuck, aliens.

Some of it is amateur Aholes

Some of it is spies

Some of it is the military experimenting technology and fucking with people.
 
Some of it is amateur Aholes

Some of it is spies

Some of it is the military experimenting technology and fucking with people.

and 99.9 % of it is airplanes, helicopters, stars, the space station, hallucinations, and general stupidity.

barfo
 
and 99.9 % of it is airplanes, helicopters, stars, the space station, hallucinations, and general stupidity.

barfo

General stupidity isn't unique to Americans. This is happening all over the world. There are a number of things occurring.
 
You sound confident about what it is. Why don't you tell us? I don't know what it is. But this is happening all over the world. You have multiple police accounts of these coming out of the ocean.

I didn't say what it was, I'm saying what it isn't.

And that is aliens from places other than Earth.

And here is why...

In our solar system, we are in a very remote and isolated area.

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The technology needed to visit us is not only beyond our abilities, it's beyond our imagination. We're still using fossil fuels to reach space. Sure, we have terms like sci-fi like lightspeed, warp speed, and hyperspeed, but the ability to achieve those speeds we're clueless.

The Kardashev scale is a great reference for this.

https://www.space.com/kardashev-scale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

Kardashev first proposed 3 levels of civilization.

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Some of the attributes of a Type 1 civilization are, growing past the ability of self-extermination, controlling the weather, preventing earthquakes, volcanos, hurricanes.

Now, for an alien species from beyond our solar system to visit us they would have to be a Type 2 civilation.

Let's look at the requirements for a Type 2 civilization.

Key attributes of a Type 2 civilization:
  • Stellar energy capture:
    The primary defining feature is the ability to capture and utilize the majority, if not all, of the energy radiated by their star, usually through a Dyson sphere or similar megastructure that surrounds the star and collects its solar radiation.
  • Interstellar travel capabilities:
    With such immense energy reserves, a Type 2 civilization would be able to readily travel between stars, potentially colonizing other planets and systems.
  • Advanced engineering and technology:
    Constructing a Dyson sphere or comparable megastructure requires incredibly advanced technology, including the ability to manipulate matter on a massive scale, advanced robotics, and sophisticated energy manipulation systems.
  • Solar system-wide control:
    A Type 2 civilization would have complete control over their solar system, managing planetary movements, asteroid belts, and potentially terraforming planets to suit their needs.
  • Potential for societal changes:
    The immense energy and resources available could lead to significant changes in their society, potentially including advanced life extension, near-perfect resource management, and a highly coordinated galactic presence

Seriously, the Kardashev scale is a great rabbit hole to go down.

Anyway, currently we have objects being spotted hovering in the sky, not even a low Earth orbit but just the sky. Our below Type 1 civilization has spy satellites that can view objects 5mm in size from orbit. An alien civilization, tens of thousands of years more advanced than us, wouldn't need to be just hovering in the sky to see what they want.

This certainly isn't an attack.

Aliens could do that without being seen.

And, aliens surely wouldn't need little red or white lights on their craft letting us know where they were so we wouldn't hit them with our comparatively simple crafts.

 
I didn't say what it was, I'm saying what it isn't.

And that is aliens from places other than Earth.

And here is why...

In our solar system, we are in a very remote and isolated area.

236085main_MilkyWay-full-e1436126762366.jpg


051208_spiralarm_vmed_2p.jpg


The technology needed to visit us is not only beyond our abilities, it's beyond our imagination. We're still using fossil fuels to reach space. Sure, we have terms like sci-fi like lightspeed, warp speed, and hyperspeed, but the ability to achieve those speeds we're clueless.

The Kardashev scale is a great reference for this.

https://www.space.com/kardashev-scale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

Kardashev first proposed 3 levels of civilization.

1699355632057


Some of the attributes of a Type 1 civilization are, growing past the ability of self-extermination, controlling the weather, preventing earthquakes, volcanos, hurricanes.

Now, for an alien species from beyond our solar system to visit us they would have to be a Type 2 civilation.

Let's look at the requirements for a Type 2 civilization.

Key attributes of a Type 2 civilization:



    • Stellar energy capture:
      The primary defining feature is the ability to capture and utilize the majority, if not all, of the energy radiated by their star, usually through a Dyson sphere or similar megastructure that surrounds the star and collects its solar radiation.
    • Interstellar travel capabilities:
      With such immense energy reserves, a Type 2 civilization would be able to readily travel between stars, potentially colonizing other planets and systems.
    • Advanced engineering and technology:
      Constructing a Dyson sphere or comparable megastructure requires incredibly advanced technology, including the ability to manipulate matter on a massive scale, advanced robotics, and sophisticated energy manipulation systems.
    • Solar system-wide control:
      A Type 2 civilization would have complete control over their solar system, managing planetary movements, asteroid belts, and potentially terraforming planets to suit their needs.
    • Potential for societal changes:
      The immense energy and resources available could lead to significant changes in their society, potentially including advanced life extension, near-perfect resource management, and a highly coordinated galactic presence
Seriously, the Kardashev scale is a great rabbit hole to go down.

Anyway, currently we have objects being spotted hovering in the sky, not even a low Earth orbit but just the sky. Our below Type 1 civilization has spy satellites that can view objects 5mm in size from orbit. An alien civilization, tens of thousands of years more advanced than us, wouldn't need to be just hovering in the sky to see what they want.

This certainly isn't an attack.

Aliens could do that without being seen.

And, aliens surely wouldn't need little red or white lights on their craft letting us know where they were so we wouldn't hit them with our comparatively simple crafts.

I dig. I have followed numerous scientists on this matter that even worked with DARPA for decades, and we are starting to figure out that there is at least one civilization of "aliens" that are here on earth. There are just too many cases that come across as credible to throw the whole subject out the window. Roswell really happened. Are there liars or people who believe they saw something else? Absolutely. But to discount 100% of the claims of thousands of people across the globe? Not buying it. I think early next year there will be an awakening. Mainstream news is still not covering as they should.
 
I had someone tell me they were demons. That we wrestle not against flesh and blood put principalities and wickedness in high places. satan is the prince and the power of the air. Lmao
 
I dig. I have followed numerous scientists on this matter that even worked with DARPA for decades, and we are starting to figure out that there is at least one civilization of "aliens" that are here on earth. There are just too many cases that come across as credible to throw the whole subject out the window. Roswell really happened. Are there liars or people who believe they saw something else? Absolutely. But to discount 100% of the claims of thousands of people across the globe? Not buying it. I think early next year there will be an awakening. Mainstream news is still not covering as they should.

Roswell: The entire history of human space flight we've only done 3 things, launch, orbit, land. That's it. Over and over. Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land. Launch, orbit, land. Now it's very safe to assume that all spacing exploring civilizations all start off the same way, launch, orbit, land.

Again, looking at the science required for a civilization to visit our very remote area of the Milky Way they would have done the very same launch, orbit, and land thing millions if not billions of times. Humans have done it 391 times and only fatally crashed during the landing part 4 times. Just barely over 1%. To think that something in our infancy of space flight we get right almost 99% of the time, that aliens who can travel faster than the speed of light are just going to show up here and fuck up the orbit and land part doesn't make sense.
 
and 99.9 % of it is airplanes, helicopters, stars, the space station, hallucinations, and general stupidity.

barfo

Yes, that too
 
I would recommend anyone interested to actually look into the Vegas case that happened just shy of two years ago. It still gives me goosebumps. There is so much there. The Pentagon even set up cameras at the family's home. There are beings ON CAMERA.

These things go back centuries. Go look at the paintings from the 15th and 16th century depicting Jesus, you'll see "UFOs" in many of them. They were describing the same things. Civilizations hundreds of years apart drew pictures of the same beings.
 
I believe in the existence in extraterrestrials. In the vast universe it would be arrogant to think we are they only life or civilization.

Have they come to Earth though? I don't think so. Why would an alien race, if they had the ability to travel across the vastness of space, come to our planet, only to hover in the atmosphere and then leave?

You do hear about people getting abducted, and maybe that happened. It seems more likely it's dreams, delusions, or the government messing with people.

Lights in the sky are most assuredly planes, choppers, drones, stars, weather balloons, or natural weather phenomenons.

A proportion of cases are foreign countries attempts to spy on us and us and others on them.

You look at Roswell where the major interest in UFO's began. You here some farmer found a crashed ship with aliens inside. But, if you look into it, he found a bunch of foil. Did aliens really come across space in a ship made of foil?

I think places like area 51 and Patterson Wright airfield are home to secret bases where we are engineering and testing new technologies for military purposes. We don't want our enemies to see what we are building and where we are at technology wise.

The idea that we have UFOS there and are reverse engineering them is a. It much. We might have downed craft from our enemies that we are studying. Having a cloud of mystery over these bases with people thinking it's UFO's is good the military/government. Stoking fear is good when you are developing new weapons and military jets. This why they are not just debunking the alien stuff.
 
I believe aliens exist. Whether they have visited Earth or not I have no idea. It's certainly possible though. Modern humans have existed for less than 100,000 years and the universe is more than 4 Billion years old. Some kind of intelligent life could have existed and evolved beyond our comprehension easily in that amount of time.
 
I would recommend anyone interested to actually look into the Vegas case that happened just shy of two years ago. It still gives me goosebumps. There is so much there. The Pentagon even set up cameras at the family's home. There are beings ON CAMERA.

These things go back centuries. Go look at the paintings from the 15th and 16th century depicting Jesus, you'll see "UFOs" in many of them. They were describing the same things. Civilizations hundreds of years apart drew pictures of the same beings.

Have you ever looked into the case in Varginha, Brazil? Its like the Roswell of latin America without the ability to quickly concoct a coverup. It’s a super intriguing story. Hundreds of witnesses, many of which who saw actual beings. Allegedly there were doctors who xrayed one and even a member of the military who became extremely ill and died from touching one of them.
 
Have you ever looked into the case in Varginha, Brazil? Its like the Roswell of latin America without the ability to quickly concoct a coverup. It’s a super intriguing story. Hundreds of witnesses, many of which who saw actual beings. Allegedly there were doctors who xrayed one and even a member of the military who became extremely ill and died from touching one of them.

This?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident
 
I believe aliens exist. Whether they have visited Earth or not I have no idea. It's certainly possible though. Modern humans have existed for less than 100,000 years and the universe is more than 4 Billion years old. Some kind of intelligent life could have existed and evolved beyond our comprehension easily in that amount of time.

The universe is thought to be 13.7 billion years old, give or take 200 million years.

But still good points.
 
The universe is thought to be 13.7 billion years old, give or take 200 million years.

But still good points.
And Earth is over 4 billion years old. Probably where 4 billion came from.

Huge numbers that are almost too big to comprehend.
 
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