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They are now saying that drones around our military bases are probably Chinese in origin as the Chinese have bought land around some of them. That could just be a "Commie's are bad and spying again" smoke screen or there might be truth to it like the balloons they sent over the country not long ago. Sounds suspicious after they claimed these were civilian drones and non threatening just yesterday. Damage control?
 
riverman said:
They are now saying that drones around our military bases are probably Chinese in origin as the Chinese have bought land around some of them. That could just be a "Commie's are bad and spying again" smoke screen or there might be truth to it like the balloons they sent over the country not long ago. Sounds suspicious after they claimed these were civilian drones and non threatening just yesterday. Damage control?
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Chinese manufacturers are experimenting with stealth delivery technology to avoid tariffs.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
What...
A...
Fucking...
Moron...

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Sen. Doug Mastriano (R-Pa.) is one of several lawmakers critical of the government’s response to the mysterious drones reportedly flying over New Jersey and parts of the eastern U.S.

“It is inconceivable that the federal government has no answers nor has taken any action to get to the bottom of the unidentified drones,” he wrote on social media on Dec. 16, comparing the situation to the Chinese surveillance balloon that flew over the U.S. in early 2023 and demanding answers.


Mastriano’s post included an image of what appears to be an aircraft loaded on a trailer. Text with the image reads, “Breaking News: Crashed drone in Orange Beach retrieved from water and taken to undisclosed location for further investigation.”

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/...heck/536-e09be8c8-6059-434a-9de6-e5f2d0cff00f
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I didn't say what it was, I'm saying what it isn't.

And that is aliens from places other than Earth.

And here is why...

In our solar system, we are in a very remote and isolated area.

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The technology needed to visit us is not only beyond our abilities, it's beyond our imagination. We're still using fossil fuels to reach space. Sure, we have terms like sci-fi like lightspeed, warp speed, and hyperspeed, but the ability to achieve those speeds we're clueless.

The Kardashev scale is a great reference for this.

https://www.space.com/kardashev-scale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

Kardashev first proposed 3 levels of civilization.

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Some of the attributes of a Type 1 civilization are, growing past the ability of self-extermination, controlling the weather, preventing earthquakes, volcanos, hurricanes.

Now, for an alien species from beyond our solar system to visit us they would have to be a Type 2 civilation.

Let's look at the requirements for a Type 2 civilization.

Key attributes of a Type 2 civilization:



    • Stellar energy capture:
      The primary defining feature is the ability to capture and utilize the majority, if not all, of the energy radiated by their star, usually through a Dyson sphere or similar megastructure that surrounds the star and collects its solar radiation.
    • Interstellar travel capabilities:
      With such immense energy reserves, a Type 2 civilization would be able to readily travel between stars, potentially colonizing other planets and systems.
    • Advanced engineering and technology:
      Constructing a Dyson sphere or comparable megastructure requires incredibly advanced technology, including the ability to manipulate matter on a massive scale, advanced robotics, and sophisticated energy manipulation systems.
    • Solar system-wide control:
      A Type 2 civilization would have complete control over their solar system, managing planetary movements, asteroid belts, and potentially terraforming planets to suit their needs.
    • Potential for societal changes:
      The immense energy and resources available could lead to significant changes in their society, potentially including advanced life extension, near-perfect resource management, and a highly coordinated galactic presence
Seriously, the Kardashev scale is a great rabbit hole to go down.

Anyway, currently we have objects being spotted hovering in the sky, not even a low Earth orbit but just the sky. Our below Type 1 civilization has spy satellites that can view objects 5mm in size from orbit. An alien civilization, tens of thousands of years more advanced than us, wouldn't need to be just hovering in the sky to see what they want.

This certainly isn't an attack.

Aliens could do that without being seen.

And, aliens surely wouldn't need little red or white lights on their craft letting us know where they were so we wouldn't hit them with our comparatively simple crafts.
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You're applying 21st century knowledge and technology to a civilization that could be millions of years beyond us.

For that matter, we don't even know if they come from some other planet, or another dimension.
 
beast blazer said:
You're applying 21st century knowledge and technology to a civilization that could be millions of years beyond us.

For that matter, we don't even know if they come from some other planet, or another dimension.
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Yes? Aliens from other planets or "dimensions" wouldn't be hovering over us in little drone-like ships with flashing lights. Glad you get that.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Yes? Aliens from other planets or "dimensions" wouldn't be hovering over us in little drone-like ships with flashing lights. Glad you get that.
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What you fail to realize is that's just normal mating behavior among that species. Our car taillights are perceived from a distance as a come-hither signal.

Of course when they get close they realize our cars lack sexual organs.

barfo
 
barfo said:
What you fail to realize is that's just normal mating behavior among that species. Our car taillights are perceived from a distance as a come-hither signal.

Of course when they get close they realize our cars lack sexual organs.

barfo
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Whatever happened to the fins and hood ornaments cars used to have, the curves and the tuck and roll....now they're all just wedgie turbo darts!
 
jonnyboy said:
Have you ever looked into the case in Varginha, Brazil? Its like the Roswell of latin America without the ability to quickly concoct a coverup. It’s a super intriguing story. Hundreds of witnesses, many of which who saw actual beings. Allegedly there were doctors who xrayed one and even a member of the military who became extremely ill and died from touching one of them.
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Yes and the three girls who saw the being? I'm sure you've watched James Fox's doc on this. Everyone isn't lying and or hallucinating. The doctor said the stench wouldn't leave his hospital for 6 weeks.
 
Folks need to understand the government's reluctance in wanting to explain this phenomenon. Like the hooker and the pimp, when we find out our government is utterly powerless in our defense to this phenomenon, all hell will break loose and they know it.

You have Congress starting to murmur amongst themselves and use different language. Gillibrand and others are starting to call these UAPs.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Yes? Aliens from other planets or "dimensions" wouldn't be hovering over us in little drone-like ships with flashing lights. Glad you get that.
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And you know "what aliens would do" base on what? You can't even figure out what's going on on Earth.
 
AmirIcon said:
Folks need to understand the government's reluctance in wanting to explain this phenomenon. Like the hooker and the pimp, when we find out our government is utterly powerless in our defense to this phenomenon, all hell will break loose and they know it.

You have Congress starting to murmur amongst themselves and use different language. Gillibrand and others are starting to call these UAPs.
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I think that's one possibility, that some of these craft really are alien, and the drone story is a cover (with actual drones being launched to confuse).

The US probably has advanced craft, possibly even craft that are so advanced most would assume it's alien, but craft like this has been reported for so long.

But whatever is going on, the Federal Government is sure doing it's best to sew confusion about it.
 
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beast blazer said:
I don't know what these are, but the commentary is hilarious.

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These are SpaceX boosters or whatever -- debunked many many weeks ago in UFO circles. Rogan vets nothing. Despite all this, something strange definitely seems to be happening in our skies :dunno:
 
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