Ducks should be national champs (Auburn cheated)

[Natebishop3]

Just like many of us suspected...

http://espn.go.com/college-football...recruiting-rules-gene-chizik-according-report

Auburn's football program changed players' grades to secure eligibility, offered money to potential NFL draft picks to return for their senior seasons and violated NCAA recruiting rules under former coach Gene Chizik, according to a report by former New York Times and Sports Illustrated writer Selena Roberts.

The report appears on Roberts' website, Roopstigo.com. According to three former Auburn players, as many as nine players' grades were changed prior to Auburn's win in the 2011 BCS national championship game.

 

[NOVoodoo]

Damn, those are some pretty serious allegations.

I hope this doesn't turn into one of those investigations that gets dragged out for months until people forget about it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Damn, those are some pretty serious allegations.

I hope this doesn't turn into one of those investigations that gets dragged out for months until people forget about it.

Everyone knew they were cheating. The Cam Newton thing was obvious, but the NCAA wanted them in the natty. Pisses me off that it didn't come out until now.

 

[NOVoodoo]

Everyone knew they were cheating. The Cam Newton thing was obvious, but the NCAA wanted them in the natty. Pisses me off that it didn't come out until now.

True. Isn't there an Oregon investigation going on though? What's the latest with that, and what years would that potentially span?

 

[Natebishop3]

True. Isn't there an Oregon investigation going on though? What's the latest with that, and what years would that potentially span?

Nothing is going on. The NCAA hasn't said anything in a long time. And all they are investigating is paying a scouting service 25k, which is something that a lot of programs do. The only reason why Oregon is being investigated is because Texas whined like little bitches to the NCAA about Oregon grabbing some of their recruits. Supposedly they want to make an example of the Ducks, but who knows. It's nothing compared to the shit Auburn pulled.

 

[Zalsa]

So if Auburn's title gets voided, Ducks get the title by default?

I mean, they lost in closing seconds by a field goal..

 

[NOVoodoo]

So if Auburn's title gets voided, Ducks get the title by default?

I mean, they lost in closing seconds by a field goal..

What about TCU though? They finished the season undefeated with a Rose Bowl win over Wisconsin, and they also finished #2 in the polls.

I don't think you can just re-award the title. I think it just sort of puts an asterisk next to it, and life goes on.

 

[Wheels]

I dont want a retro active title. Means nothing to me. We didnt win the game. Whether it was against eligible kids or not.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Everyone knew they were cheating. The Cam Newton thing was obvious, but the NCAA wanted them in the natty. Pisses me off that it didn't come out until now.

This.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Natebishop3]

I dont want a retro active title. Means nothing to me. We didnt win the game. Whether it was against eligible kids or not.

I don't think it works that way, does it?

 

[Wheels]

I don't think it works that way, does it?

dont think so. And hope not. Still wont stop some people from trying to claim it lol.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

The SEC is the biggest group of cheats and whiners in all of sports.

 

[Zalsa]

Woudl we get a retroactive title?

 

[PapaG]

Woudl we get a retroactive title?

No.

Whatever team USC beat for their vacated title didn't get awarded the title. Those are the breaks. It was hilarious at the time, though, how the NCAA cleared Cam Newton in literally one day, while Oregon's investigation has dragged on for 3 years now, and with no end in sight.

 

[Natebishop3]

No.

Whatever team USC beat for their vacated title didn't get awarded the title. Those are the breaks. It was hilarious at the time, though, how the NCAA cleared Cam Newton in literally one day, while Oregon's investigation has dragged on for 3 years now, and with no end in sight.

Yup.

 

[huevonkiller]

Haha that's great.

I'm all for rewardin' the best with dough. I think Oregon should also pay their players.

 

[Mediocre Man]

So did Oregon, we just haven't been sanctioned yet

 

[Wheels]

So did Oregon, we just haven't been sanctioned yet

could be true. But difference in my mind re Oregon vs Auburn (not that I am condoning any cheating) is Auburn's alleged players played that season. The Players Oregon is under scrutiny for (Seastrunk and Williams) never played a down for the Ducks.

 

[Natebishop3]

Unless the NCAA can prove that the Ducks payed players, or somehow benefited the players' families, I don't see how it's even remotely the same thing. My understanding, and I might be wrong, is that any number of major programs do and have done the exact same fucking thing that the Ducks are currently being investigated for. It is also my understanding that the NCAA hasn't actually made external scouting sources illegal and that the Ducks weren't technically doing anything wrong. The ONLY reason why this happened in the first place is because Texas got butthurt because UO recruited some players from their state.

 

[Zalsa]

And because those players never played for us, we'll only get scholarship reductions, like, 10 over the course of 2 years probably. Nothing big.