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Woj says that if Durant leaves OKC then the Warriors are probably the favorites to get him:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--warriors-serious-threat-to-sign-kevin-durant-182559375.html

These are steps they would have to take to have CAP room for him:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-warriors-can-afford-to-sign-kevin-durant-043710075.html

Which means maybe we should go hard at Harrison Barnes? Good player but I just don't see him as a MAX guy. I would be hesitant to spend that much on him. You (almost) have to spend the money on someone though....

I think I would rather have Iggy at 11 MIL then Barnes at potentially 18 MIL.
 
Durant on the Warriors would make that team retarded.
 
Now Durant on the Blazers that's a different story
 
I don't get Barnes. He's nothing special. Nic was and is better than Barnes, and people hated Nic. You want a worse version on a worse contract, then Barnes is your man!
 
As to Durant on GSW: today's top players are a bunch of pansies. Rather than compete against the best to be the best, they team up so there's no competition as they coast to the Finals. Bunch of chumps.
 
blue9 said:
I don't get Barnes. He's nothing special. Nic was and is better than Barnes, and people hated Nic. You want a worse version on a worse contract, then Barnes is your man!
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I don't really want Barnes (as I stated) but you are over-exaggerating to try to make your point. Barnes doesn't play quite as much as Nic on GS due to their depth at the wing positions but there numbers are entirely comparable (outside of passing of course, we know Nic excels at that) when normalized. Harrison better at O in advanced stats and Nic better at D. They are closer then someone might want to admit.

http://bkref.com/tiny/6CgsF

And Barnes doesn't have a worse contract. He has a way better contract. And this summer they will both have the same equally shitty contract going forward (most likely max for both) so once again you are being disingenuous.

I agreed with your original point that Barnes isn't much. You could have left it at that (you already had me man!) but you went off the rails and tried to twist things.
 
blue9 said:
As to Durant on GSW: today's top players are a bunch of pansies. Rather than compete against the best to be the best, they team up so there's no competition as they coast to the Finals. Bunch of chumps.
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Now this point I absolutely agree with.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I don't really want Barnes (as I stated) but you are over-exaggerating to try to make your point. Barnes doesn't play quite as much as Nic on GS due to their depth at the wing positions but there numbers are entirely comparable (outside of passing of course, we know Nic excels at that) when normalized. Harrison better at O in advanced stats and Nic better at D. They are closer then someone might want to admit.

http://bkref.com/tiny/6CgsF

And Barnes doesn't have a worse contract. He has a way better contract. And this summer they will both have the same equally shitty contract going forward (most likely max for both) so once again you are being disingenuous.

I agreed with your original point that Barnes isn't much. You could have left it at that (you already had me man!) but you went off the rails and tried to twist things.
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I haven't actually looked at their stats in a while - I'll take your word that they're "about equal". Besides, it sounds like we agree that he's nothing special - and that's the real point.
My comment regarding the contract was not about their current contracts, but about how Barnes will be on a MAX contract while Nic was on a contract commensurate with his abilities. Basically, if people hated Nic on his Blazers contract they should hate Barnes even more on his theoretical Blazers contract.
 
0 interest in Barnes. People like Steve Kerr and the media blow smoke up his ass, but he's not the next James Harden in OKC. Dude is a complementary role player. That's it.

Woj also talks about Clips moving Blake to make room to go after KD in the summer in the article.

I'd be all for taking on Blake in the summer.
 
Players greatness is determined by the number of rings they have. I personally hate that aspect of it as titles are won by a team that is put together properly. I hate how guys like Malone are discounted due to lack of rings.
 
How would Durant IMPROVE the Warriors? He would mean that Curry and Thompson shoot less and they would have slightly worse D at the SF spot. That's just kind of redundant. The reason to leave OKC is if you don't want to be second fiddle to Westbrook. But guess what you'd be on the Warriors?
 
Schilly said:
Players greatness is determined by the number of rings they have. I personally hate that aspect of it as titles are won by a team that is put together properly. I hate how guys like Malone are discounted due to lack of rings.
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Of course Malone tried to chase a ring at the end of his career by hopping on the Lakers bandwagon. Thank God for the Larry Brown Pistons.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
What happened to Durant going home to DC?
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Probably was more overblown then people thought. I mean Durant didn't even go to College in the DC area. Players have plenty of money for plane tickets back home if they want to see family.
 
Would they really want to break up whats prolly going to be the best team in the leage for...well who knows really...

KeepOnRollin said:
Probably was more overblown then people thought. I mean Durant didn't even go to College in the DC area. Players have plenty of money for plane tickets back home if they want to see family.
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Tell that to LaMarsha
 
selloutking said:
Would they really want to break up whats prolly going to be the best team in the leage for...well who knows really...



Tell that to LaMarsha
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It would be hard to turn down adding Durant if it was possible. He is pretty damned amazing. But yeah, I honestly see this warriors team as a dynasty as constructed. Who is going to beat them? And how long can they just keep killing it if they just keep their team together? I personally don't think they need to add anything or shuffle anything to just keep on killing the league.
 
theprunetang said:
It would be hard to turn down adding Durant if it was possible. He is pretty damned amazing. But yeah, I honestly see this warriors team as a dynasty as constructed. Who is going to beat them? And how long can they just keep killing it if they just keep their team together? I personally don't think they need to add anything or shuffle anything to just keep on killing the league.
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The Warriors will only stay on top for as long as teams try to replicate what they do. When teams understand that trying to do what the best team does is pointless they will start making their own systems. The NBA is a revolving door.
 
I would trade CJ for Klay straight up.

They don't lose much with CJ, but they drop their cap hold by almost $17 million. CJ isn't a free agent for another two years, so they don't have to worry about extending him until after they signed Durant.

Edit - sorry, it would be around $14.5 million because I forgot to factor in CJ's contract.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
The Warriors will only stay on top for as long as teams try to replicate what they do. When teams understand that trying to do what the best team does is pointless they will start making their own systems. The NBA is a revolving door.
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True. But it is going to take some time for a team with a new style or a new weapon to catch up. I don't know the future or anything, but I can imagine a multi year reign at the top.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would trade CJ for Klay straight up.

They don't lose much with CJ, but they drop their cap hold by almost $17 million. CJ isn't a free agent for another two years, so they don't have to worry about extending him until after they signed Durant.

Edit - sorry, it would be around $14.5 million because I forgot to factor in CJ's contract.
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Is this going to be a thing where it becomes a trade cj thread every time? Not singling you out, just noticing,...
 
Strenuus said:
Is this going to be a thing where it becomes a trade cj thread every time? Not singling you out, just noticing,...
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It makes a lot of sense though. CJ still has two years left. He's only making like $2.4 million next year. They could trade Klay, open up a bunch of cap space, and not really lose the production. Defensively they would suffer a bit though.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It makes a lot of sense though. CJ still has two years left. He's only making like $2.4 million next year. They could trade Klay, open up a bunch of cap space, and not really lose the production. Defensively they would suffer a bit though.
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I mean, I get it, I just had to point it out.
 
theprunetang said:
True. But it is going to take some time for a team with a new style or a new weapon to catch up. I don't know the future or anything, but I can imagine a multi year reign at the top.
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I think the Warriors are simple to stop, you just need to be tough and intimidate them, when they set their million moving picks per game you need to foul and foul hard right away, set the tone. The Warriors need to be punched in the mouth, they need to know that they ain't the baddest on the block.
 
theprunetang said:
True. But it is going to take some time for a team with a new style or a new weapon to catch up. I don't know the future or anything, but I can imagine a multi year reign at the top.
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I think once one of DMC/Drummond/Davis get traded to a "cusp" team (hopefully us!), that could pave the way for dismantling GSW. Right now none of the dominant bigs in the league are on good teams, so GSW doesn't really have to worry about getting smashed in the paint. Pair one of those three with Dame, make a few moves to get a better SF and shore up whatever weaknesses were created by the trade, and I think that poses a huge problem for GSW.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I think the Warriors are simple to stop, you just need to be tough and intimidate them, when they set their million moving picks per game you need to foul and foul hard right away, set the tone. The Warriors need to be punched in the mouth, they need to know that they ain't the baddest on the block.
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Tell that to the 40 teams they have beat this year. I agree with you on the way to beat them, I just don't think there are any teams currently that either can or will do that. I would love to see them get a lesson with a physical beat down though.
 
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