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BigGameDamian said:
Hell I'd give Bosh a look for sure! He probably wants to come back to a contender though.
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Or, perhaps he'd rather remain alive.

Seriously, would you risk your life to join this shit show?

BNM
 
julius said:
Sisyphus.
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Well....I don't think rolling a boulder up a hill matches our state of affairs. To me, it feels more like we "lost" ground and had receded, fallen into a lost period of this season especially after the Toronto and Detroit games.
 
Time for a Nurk, Napier, Connington trio on the court after we lose the next two games.
 
The sad thing is, Joel Freeland is a hell of a lot better than Meyers on both ends.
 
Freeland I think is with CSKA Moscow.
I agree that we should bring another big, maybe we can luck into someone good
 
You don't get a roster spot with Ed out. You would have to cut someone to bring in another player. I don't see a reason to do that in this somewhat lost season.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
You don't get a roster spot with Ed out. You would have to cut someone to bring in another player. I don't see a reason to do that in this somewhat lost season.
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Cut either Quarterman or Connaughton, whichever one they're not planning on bringing back next season. Neither have guaranteed contracts so it's a good bet one or both will be gone anyway. Or just tell Ezeli to fuck off.

My only question is financial. I've read that we have the ability to sign someone for the minimum and not go into luxury tax, but I've also read the opposite, so not sure which one is true.

 
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They gained a little room with the Nurkic for Plumlee swap so if that is enough room for a minimum contract, they could still add someone. Not sure why a player like Sanders would sign here when he could go to a playoff team.
 
TBpup said:
They gained a little room with the Nurkic for Plumlee swap so if that is enough room for a minimum contract, they could still add someone. Not sure why a player like Sanders would sign here when he could go to a playoff team.
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I think if that were the case, he'd already be on a team. Sanders isn't the only option, we could bring back Cliff, who's played well in the dleague and knows the system. Problem is he's more of a power forward and we have enough bodies there. Maybe Edy Tavares.
 
Scalma said:
Cut either Quarterman or Connaughton, whichever one they're not planning on bringing back next season. Neither have guaranteed contracts so it's a good bet one or both will be gone anyway. Or just tell Ezeli to fuck off.

My only question is financial. I've read that we have the ability to sign someone for the minimum and not go into luxury tax, but I've also read the opposite, so not sure which one is true.

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The Apron is $4M over the tax line. A minimum salary pickup would put us into the tax, but we would remain under the apron.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
#lotsofjokespossiblehere

Remind me of the ramifications of the difference.
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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q23

In addition to the tax payments described in question number 21, taxpaying teams have the following restrictions. Note that most of these restrictions aren't triggered unless the team would be over the "apron" -- the point $4 million above the tax level -- following a signing or trade.
  • Teams above the apron cannot use the Bi-Annual exception (see question number 25)1.
  • Teams above the apron have a smaller Mid-Level exception (see question number 25). Teams above the apron can offer contracts no longer than three years, while other teams can offer four. The starting salary is also lower (for example, in 2011-12 it is $3 million for teams above the apron, versus $5 million for other teams)1.
  • Taxpaying teams can acquire less salary in a simultaneous trade (see question number 84).
  • Starting in 2013-14, teams cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 91) if their team salary is above the apron at the conclusion of the trade1.
  • Teams above the apron do not have the same protections under the Gilbert Arenas provision (see question number 45).
 
I don't think we will bring anyone in there going see if some younger players can improve there game. You got ET coming back soon I think we will at 14 players until the end.
 
Trackjack said:
I don't think we will bring anyone in there going see if some younger players can improve there game. You got ET coming back soon I think we will at 14 players until the end.
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Yeah but the problem is we literally only have two centers on the roster, and one of them is more of a "center."

How much tax would we have to pay for a minimum salary guy? Money aside, I think it'd be a good idea to take a look at someone like Tavares, and who knows, we might luck into a backup center. He's going on 25 but didn't pick up basketball until 6 years ago. He's huge (7'3 with a 7'9 wingspan!) and has looked good in the dleague. Leads the league in blocks. I don't see why that part of his game (and rebounding) couldn't translate to the NBA.
 
Scalma said:
Yeah but the problem is we literally only have two centers on the roster, and one of them is more of a "center."

How much tax would we have to pay for a minimum salary guy? Money aside, I think it'd be a good idea to take a look at someone like Tavares, and who knows, we might luck into a backup center. He's going on 25 but didn't pick up basketball until 6 years ago. He's huge (7'3 with a 7'9 wingspan!) and has looked good in the dleague. Leads the league in blocks. I don't see why that part of his game (and rebounding) couldn't translate to the NBA.
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It's not about paying a small amount of tax this season, it's about triggering the tax a year earlier. The more consecutive seasons you pay the tax the more punitive the tax rates become.
 
BlazerWookee said:
It's not about paying a small amount of tax this season, it's about triggering the tax a year earlier. The more consecutive seasons you pay the tax the more punitive the tax rates become.
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Is the team planning on being in luxury tax next season? Just getting rid of Ezeli would put them under, no?
 
TBpup said:
They gained a little room with the Nurkic for Plumlee swap so if that is enough room for a minimum contract, they could still add someone. Not sure why a player like Sanders would sign here when he could go to a playoff team.
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because no one is signing him
 
So we want to sign an additional post who hasn't been able to catch on anywhere in order to do what exactly? Aminu, Nurk, Leonard and Vonleh, we don't need another body.
 
Chris Craig said:
because no one is signing him
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I can't see the advantage of a team signing him now unless they were playoff bound and just lost a player due to injury and was desperate. He just won't be ready to help. Next season is a different story if he works his ass off all summer.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
You don't get a roster spot with Ed out. You would have to cut someone to bring in another player. I don't see a reason to do that in this somewhat lost season.
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Can't you get a medical exception for at least Festus? Sign 10 day contracts or something?
 
I listened to Dan Marang....bright guy...on a podcast yesterday talking about Terence Jones being the perfect player to shore up the roster at PF but you'd have to get past him beating up homeless people in the past...high risk character...high reward player.
 
Schilly said:
So we want to sign an additional post who hasn't been able to catch on anywhere in order to do what exactly? Aminu, Nurk, Leonard and Vonleh, we don't need another body.
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Then at least give Vonleh more minutes. Leonard is actauly ok as a Center but both him and Aminu at PF are a bit undersized
 
Scalma said:
Is the team planning on being in luxury tax next season? Just getting rid of Ezeli would put them under, no?
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No--CJ's extension kicks in and puts us well over the tax line next season, absent other moves.

Now, the "repeater" tax doesn't have an impact until the 3rd year in the tax out of 4, but Wookie's right in that you don't want to start that clock earlier than you need to.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Then at least give Vonleh more minutes. Leonard is actauly ok as a Center but both him and Aminu at PF are a bit undersized
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I think Stotts will play a lot of 3 guard smallball to end the season...
 
riverman said:
I think Stotts will play a lot of 3 guard smallball to end the season...
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I like that, I've been advocating giving Napier more PT and using Crabbe at SF but if our bigs are also undersized it'd be a bit too small-ball
 
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