PCmor7
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My data set was players that played a minimum of 164 NBA games. More than 2 seasons.
Isn't an NBA season 82 games? Two seasons = 164.
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My data set was players that played a minimum of 164 NBA games. More than 2 seasons.
Yeah. So these are players that played 2 or more NBA seasons. I didn’t want to include players like you pointed out earlier that were borderline and didn’t get a chance to play and improve.Isn't an NBA season 82 games? Two seasons = 164.
Yeah. So these are players that played 2 or more NBA seasons. I didn’t want to include players like you pointed out earlier that were borderline and didn’t get a chance to play and improve.
Looking at the data:
- I took 281 college players drafted from 2011 to 2020.
- I filtered by players that played a minimum of 164 games in the NBA.
I compared their college 3-pt shooting percentage to their NBA 3-pt shooting percentage.
On average, players only improve their shooting percentage by 0.7% (if they shot 35.0% in college, they shot 35.7% in the NBA).
Also, I looked at their FT% to see if that was a good indicator if they could more easily 'learn' to be a good 3-pt shooter. I found no correlation -
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My conclusion: Becoming a good NBA 3-point shooter is not easily learned. What the player is in college is probably what the player will be in the NBA. Sample size is of course a factor. Free-throw shooting is not a good indicator if a player can more easily learn to be a good NBA 3 pt shooter.
okay, but I don't think Demin will be running an NBA point real soon as his handle is another skill he's not very good at (yet)... they get into that in the video I linked below. Smaller players hounded him into a lot of turnovers in college (2.9 TOs per game) and it won't get easier in the pros. Part of the reason most PGs are shorter is that taller players have higher dribbles and are easier to pick. I think it's more likely he finds success as a secondary playmaker, but he'll have to improve his 3 ball for that role.The original quote was about "big PGs"
Players miss games.Don't 1R draft picks get guaranteed 2-year contracts, though? My point being that there were a lot of borderline players included just by filtering it that way. Anyone picked in the first round is going to be around at least two years, whether they have it or not. The tires are being kicked on them. Then a slice of that pie is players whose games aren't predicated on shooting the 3. Then a slice of those players are guys that were in college for 3 years instead of 1 who got to improve their shooting % before going pro and had a much larger sample size.
And, after all of that, their 3-pt % went up nearly an entire point, which actually is more significant than it's going to appear.
how many times have you heard players described as transforming into completely different people once play begins? Things definitely change once the endorphins kick in.Watching his interviews he’d fit right in with his nice guy kinda goofy personality. So that’s a pass on him for me. We need some more alpha types on this roster imo. We need more dawgs.
https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/the-myth-of-the-alpha-wolfWatching his interviews he’d fit right in with his nice guy kinda goofy personality. So that’s a pass on him for me. We need some more alpha types on this roster imo. We need more dawgs.
Players miss games.
Sharpe has played in ~185 games after 3 seasons.
Camara is at ~150 games after 2 season
Scoot is at ~130 games
His filter on the analysis is fair
Most of those guys are also dogged defenders.Watching the 8 minutes of Indy/ NY we better draft the best shooter we can.
Indy is the best shooting team in the NBA.
Look at the trend in his percentages. His first year with new teams is bad. His second year is much better. Shooting can be as much between the ears as it is in the body. Perhaps moving from Russia to mormon Utah was a bit of an adjustment!? I trust in his mechanics. It might take a year or two, but I think his shooting will be fine.
I'm not sure Portland has a specific shooting coach, but there have been a few guys recently who have shown considerable improvement in their time here.