Egypt After Morsi (VICE)

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Vice did some awesome on the streets reporting during the coup in Egypt. Pay attention, this is what news is supposed to be. "We report, you decide" indeed.

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Love VICE on HBO. They just show you straight up what's going on with no spin.
 
So what is really going on there?

The vast majority couldn't stand Morsi?

Weren't there celebrations in the street when he was ousted?

His supporters seem pretty violent in reaction.

Is this accurate?
 
I'm Egyptian and had a conversation with my uncle yesterday and this is what I gathered... the people didmt want him and are fed up with thw whole brother hood. Egyptian media shows all the people against morsi, American media is showing the opposite and only showing those who are speaking in support which is a very small percentage. Obama wants to keep the brother hold on power so the country can go to shit. The dude in charge of the army (name cc or something like that) wanted the people to come.out and show there support so he can take out the rest of the brother hood which Obama is completely against but all the people.want and came.out in support of cc. Apparently 12 people died today who were on support of the brotherhood and obama is quite pissed and is semdokgmthreats even though the vast majority of people are in celebration about what's going on
 
You're Egyptian........ do you live in a Pyramid?
 
Reuters tweets that Morsi will be in the same prison he kept Mubarek in (who is still there--maybe they'll pass by each other in the halls).
 
I'm Egyptian and had a conversation with my uncle yesterday and this is what I gathered... the people didmt want him and are fed up with thw whole brother hood. Egyptian media shows all the people against morsi, American media is showing the opposite and only showing those who are speaking in support which is a very small percentage. Obama wants to keep the brother hold on power so the country can go to shit. The dude in charge of the army (name cc or something like that) wanted the people to come.out and show there support so he can take out the rest of the brother hood which Obama is completely against but all the people.want and came.out in support of cc. Apparently 12 people died today who were on support of the brotherhood and obama is quite pissed and is semdokgmthreats even though the vast majority of people are in celebration about what's going on

The general's name is El-Sissy. Pretty hard to forget.
 
U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel spoke by telephone with Egyptian army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who led the July 3 military overthrow of Mursi

Mursi has been held in army detention at an undisclosed location since he was deposed. Ibrahim said he would likely be transferred shortly to the same Cairo prison where Mubarak is now held

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013...urce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

How long till some new leader sends General Sissy to join them?
 
The minister also said a decision on where to hold Mursi, whose current location has not been announced, would be up to the investigating judge. When pressed by journalists about where Mursi would be taken, he said "mostly likely to Torah" prison.

Torah, on the edge of Cairo, is the jail where Mubarak, his sons and members of the former president's cabinet have been held after they were detained in the wake of the uprising that erupted in January 2011.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/27/us-egypt-protests-prison-idUSBRE96Q05W20130727
 
I've only heard people say it never saw the spelling and I had a little buzz on
 
What kind of buzz do you have on?
 
There's no question Morsi and the Islamic Brotherhood were elected democratically. They had the benefit of being the only organized opposition party, so of course they were best poised to win that election. The problem, however, is they didn't rule in that fashion. They changed the Constitution and attempted to change the courts and the military.

The result was that they had in practice the same kind of dictatorship they had under Mubarak, but much less free socially due to the conservative Islamic policies promoted by the Brotherhood. Furthermore, there had been a breakdown in basic social services and a collapse in the tourism industry, which resulted in an economic cratering and a food shortage.

The military has always served as the "grown-ups" in Egyptian politics. The question is how long they will continue to hold onto power before releasing back to the people. I think they're giving the people time to build political parties that can challenge the Brotherhood while also trying to shore up the economy. Let's hope this won't be another permanent dictatorship, like existed under Mubarak.
 
There's no question Morsi and the Islamic Brotherhood were elected democratically. They had the benefit of being the only organized opposition party, so of course they were best poised to win that election. The problem, however, is they didn't rule in that fashion. They changed the Constitution and attempted to change the courts and the military.

The result was that they had in practice the same kind of dictatorship they had under Mubarak, but much less free socially due to the conservative Islamic policies promoted by the Brotherhood. Furthermore, there had been a breakdown in basic social services and a collapse in the tourism industry, which resulted in an economic cratering and a food shortage.

The military has always served as the "grown-ups" in Egyptian politics. The question is how long they will continue to hold onto power before releasing back to the people. I think they're giving the people time to build political parties that can challenge the Brotherhood while also trying to shore up the economy. Let's hope this won't be another permanent dictatorship, like existed under Mubarak.

QFT

Another factor going forward is that the military will always be there, watching and waiting. It's interesting to compare them to what we consider a military, i.e. a wing of the government. The Egyptian military is its own structure. They own a ton of land and lease plots out to various industries. They are basically the most powerful military and industrial entity in the country. So I think no matter who is "running" Egypt, everyone knows who has the last say.
 
I don't get why Morsi is being held prisoner. Did he break any laws?

My guess is because the military is afraid of Morsi leading and rallying the forces of the Brotherhood against the military leadership.
 
I don't get why Morsi is being held prisoner. Did he break any laws?

The military claims he broke out of prison, during the mubarak uprising, and attacked some police stations during the mubarak uprising as well. Which is basically what everyone else was doing at the time.
 
In other words, you can get away with opposing the politicians, but not the police or military. Sounds familiar. Gee, I wonder which intelligence agencies installed that system.
 
I hope they get it all figured out. I made a friend from Cairo at PSU and she's scared to go back. Egypt has a lot of potential.
 
Is there a YouTube video in the first post? There's an empty space but I'm on my phone. I'd really like to watch tr video.
 
I hope they get it all figured out. I made a friend from Cairo at PSU and she's scared to go back. Egypt has a lot of potential.

I have friends from Egypt as well. They won't return until things settle down and they're terrified for their family that remains.
 
One thing that seems clear in those vids is that the anti-Morsi contingent hate Obama for what they view as supporting terrorism. (While I didn't notice it as a point they were making, I'm guessing that the pro-Morsi crowd loves our president.)

Go Blazers
 
Well Obama supports morsi and wants him in power so that would make sense
 

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