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MARIS61 said:
Typo. No s in cliche'.

Thanks, corrected.

Was your debate party a success?
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My debate party was a huge success. Now I work to get attendees to become volunteers. That's how Warren campaign works. My cat loves visitors.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Its so strange to me that the guy who has an entire thread about the, “hate-filled heroes of the left”, in which all is posted is basically slander, accusations and personal insults towards people is now trying to make a case that this thread is bigoted, and that insulting someone is bad...
There's probably some bigotry here, won't deny that, I doubt @Lanny would deny it either, but the forum rule is about personally insulting fellow posters, not political figures (or their moms I guess).
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I didn't say anything about anyone's mom nor do I believe in doing so. My target was the most public figure in the United States and therefor a qualified candidate for derision. Why, I've seen Obama compared to a monkey by some asshole in here. Same with Michelle Obama.

Now, let's consider bigotry which Webster's defines as "obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot"
I'm not sure if that applies here. I once was open minded about Trump but as the 2016 election drew near, I deduced that this guy (Trump) was no good. So, I guess there now is an intolerant devotion to my opinion of Trump based on past and continuing deductions of a mountain of horrible Trump tweets and actions. In that respect, yes, I am bigoted toward Trump. His mother? She's got nothing to do with it. I don't believe in attacking the family of a public figure unless they too are involved.
 
crandc said:
My debate party was a huge success. Now I work to get attendees to become volunteers. That's how Warren campaign works. My cat loves visitors.
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I want some of your outstanding cooking and I want it now.
Your Lordship, Sly, make crandc fix me a spread of delicious food, oh great and powerful, Sly.
 
crandc said:
My debate party was a huge success. Now I work to get attendees to become volunteers. That's how Warren campaign works. My cat loves visitors.
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Im in Hawaii attending a Tulsi networking seminar!
 
Lanny said:
I didn't say anything about anyone's mom nor do I believe in doing so. My target was the most public figure in the United States and therefor a qualified candidate for derision. Why, I've seen Obama compared to a monkey by some asshole in here. Same with Michelle Obama.

Now, let's consider bigotry which Webster's defines as "obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot"
I'm not sure if that applies here. I once was open minded about Trump but as the 2016 election drew near, I deduced that this guy (Trump) was no good. So, I guess there now is an intolerant devotion to my opinion of Trump based on past and continuing deductions of a mountain of horrible Trump tweets and actions. In that respect, yes, I am bigoted toward Trump. His mother? She's got nothing to do with it. I don't believe in attacking the family of a public figure unless they too are involved.
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Right, and you have said in the past you believe Trump is basically the Devil (I'm paraphrasing), so that is why I said there is probably some bigotry here in terms of your opinion of Trump.

In terms of Trumps mom... I believe they're saying you're calling her a "b*tch, when you call him an SOB. If you mean that as an insult towards his Mom I don't know, but frankly in my opinion anyway (which isn't all that important here), it's not against forum rules, even if I wish you hadn't said it.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Right, and you have said in the past you believe Trump is basically the Devil (I'm paraphrasing), so that is why I said there is probably some bigotry here in terms of your opinion of Trump.

In terms of Trumps mom... I believe they're saying you're calling her a "b*tch, when you call him an SOB. If you mean that as an insult towards his Mom I don't know, but frankly in my opinion anyway (which isn't all that important here), it's not against forum rules, even if I wish you hadn't said it.
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No, I never said that Trump was the devil.I said that he was under the influence of the devil. I might have said he was a disciple of the devil. This was deduced from years of observation.
 
Lanny said:
I grew up in the Episcopal church dating back to the 40s and I can tell you that we never had a priest talk politics for decades and one of our priests was actually a bishop.
Now, contrast that with the fact that we've never had an ignorant, lying, cheating, stealing gangster President like Trump before that is ruining the lives of Millions if not Billions.
I truly believe that Trump is a disciple of the Devil, pure evil.
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Lanny said:
Your wish is a dream fantasy never ever to be realized.
Trump is, in my opinion, a gift to us from the Devil and nearly pure evil.
It's so sad to see otherwise decent people completely mesmerized by this cult leader.
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I did say "basically" and paraphrasing. Those were the quotes I was thinking of and your free to your opinion.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I did say "basically" and paraphrasing. Those were the quotes I was thinking of and your free to your opinion.
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You said that I accused him of being the devil. Far from it, I know very well that he isn't the devil but rather a gift from the devil. Not a big difference to you but a very big difference to me.
 
Lanny said:
You said that I accused him of being the devil. Far from it, I know very well that he isn't the devil but rather a gift from the devil. Not a big difference to you but a very big difference to me.
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I understand the difference, it wasn't meant to offend you... Just the overall point was you do have very strong feelings about Trump and it probably could fall under the "Bigotry" definition. However, it doesn't seem like it breaks any forum rules as at least in my estimation you didn't insult a poster directly.
 
MARIS61 said:
Poster insults Jews. A large number of my friends are Jews.

I point out that it's a bigoted post.

You say there is an invisible personal insult by me somewhere in that?

No, there is not. No person was referenced at all. No insult was posted. No insult was found by you.

I simply noted the post so you could delete it before the Blazers saw it.

I am absolutely certain that they aren't fans of antisemitism.
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So you're saying this post:

riverman said:
this presidency is like a low budget Coen Bros movie
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Is antisemitic and bigoted. And that Riverman hates Jews.

MARIS61 said:
Wow! Bring out the bigoted cliche'.

Why do Dems hate the Jews so much?
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And because the mods won't agree with you we are also antisemitic and biased.

MARIS61 said:
This thread is racist and should be deleted in its entirety.

Bias by mods is so blatant lately.
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I have given your posts, claims, and accusations much more serious attention than I feel that they deserve but out of respect to you, this forum, and our hardworking staff, I feel I have done my due diligence.

While I'm pretty sure that all of us have Jewish friends I do have one that was an assistant director of the UJA, the United Jewish Appeal. This organization works worldwide on subjects such as antisemitism. I made sure to just share the post and your concerns about it without her getting any opinions from myself. Again, as someone who has spent part of her career fighting against antisemitism, she does not find @riverman's post to be antisemitic at all. Actually she found the entire thing to be quite funny.

Now I don't for a minute think that you actually believe your own claims and accusations. I honestly feel you're only using that as an excuse and justification for your own insults. "If I accuse someone of being a bigot or an antisemite then it's okay to call them one."

It's not.

Also, I am publicly rejecting this latest claim by multiple members of the forum, both liberals, and conservatives, that if a post is personally insulting to you that means it's a personal insult and justifies you to insult them back. If a post is truly insulting to you then contact the staff or me and we will review it. Do use it as an excuse to insult others.

@MARIS61 because of your insults to members and staff here and because with the start of what looks to be a fun and exciting Blazer season starting in just a few days I've decided to give you a small break from the forum.

Please feel free during that time to contact the Blazers, the press, your Jewish friends, about your claims of antisemitism, bigotry, and bias by members and staff of this great community.

See you in 2 weeks.

Go Blazers!
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I understand the difference, it wasn't meant to offend you... Just the overall point was you do have very strong feelings about Trump and it probably could fall under the "Bigotry" definition. However, it doesn't seem like it breaks any forum rules as at least in my estimation you didn't insult a poster directly.
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No, it had absolutely nothing to do with anyone in here.
However, I interpret bigoted as having to do with an opinion regardless of reasoning. As I pointed out, I've already done my reasoning and it was extensive and growing more lopsided by the day.
 
Honestly, when I read the title to this thread I thought it was about this guy.

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I was a little disappointed that it wasn't. I'm not surprised it turned into a turd pile.

Who knew, Animal from the Muppets was Jewish.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So you're saying this post:



Is antisemitic and bigoted. And that Riverman hates Jews.



And because the mods won't agree with you we are also antisemitic and biased.



I have given your posts, claims, and accusations much more serious attention than I feel that they deserve but out of respect to you, this forum, and our hardworking staff, I feel I have done my due diligence.

While I'm pretty sure that all of us have Jewish friends I do have one that was an assistant director of the UJA, the United Jewish Appeal. This organization works worldwide on subjects such as antisemitism. I made sure to just share the post and your concerns about it without her getting any opinions from myself. Again, as someone who has spent part of her career fighting against antisemitism, she does not find @riverman's post to be antisemitic at all. Actually she found the entire thing to be quite funny.

Now I don't for a minute think that you actually believe your own claims and accusations. I honestly feel you're only using that as an excuse and justification for your own insults. "If I accuse someone of being a bigot or an antisemite then it's okay to call them one."

It's not.

Also, I am publicly rejecting this latest claim by multiple members of the forum, both liberals, and conservatives, that if a post is personally insulting to you that means it's a personal insult and justifies you to insult them back. If a post is truly insulting to you then contact the staff or me and we will review it. Do use it as an excuse to insult others.

@MARIS61 because of your insults to members and staff here and because with the start of what looks to be a fun and exciting Blazer season starting in just a few days I've decided to give you a small break from the forum.

Please feel free during that time to contact the Blazers, the press, your Jewish friends, about your claims of antisemitism, bigotry, and bias by members and staff of this great community.

See you in 2 weeks.

Go Blazers!
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I hope he wasn't referring to me as being antisemitic. I have a host of Jewish friends including a Rabbi currently researching the Dead Sea Scrolls and probably the top neurosurgeon West of the Mississippi. I might add that one of my Jewish friends is a technician in my dialysis unit and I have taken him to Blazer games at my expense. Lesser known are doctor David Perlman Emergency Medicine Physician and Martin Packouz whose parents owned Packouz Jewelry in Portland as well as Bruce Director, stock advisor in NY City, cousin of owner of Directors financial services co. No, I have nothing at all against Jews.
 
Lanny said:
I hope he wasn't referring to me as being antisemitic. I have a host of Jewish friends including a Rabbi currently researching the Dead Sea Scrolls and probably the top neurosurgeon West of the Mississippi. I might add that one of my Jewish friends is a technician in my dialysis unit and I have taken him to Blazer games at my expense. Lesser known are doctor David Perlman Emergency Medicine Physician and Martin Packouz whose parents owned Packouz Jewelry in Portland as well as Bruce Director, stock advisor in NY City, cousin of owner of Directors financial services co. No, I have nothing at all against Jews.
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Here's thing thing Lanny (and everyone else). Maris doesn't actually think you're an Anti-Semite. It's a character he's doing, thinking he's being funny or clever, or at least edgy. For whatever reason, it's what he thinks is making a point (whatever the point is).

Don't take anything he says with anything more than a grain of salt. He's like Stephen Colbert, in weird theatre of the absurd kind of way. Here is a perfect way to describe it (stolen from the Wiki page on Theater of the Absurd) "Logical construction and argument give way to irrational and illogical speech and to its ultimate conclusion, silence"
 
julius said:
Here's thing thing Lanny (and everyone else). Maris doesn't actually think you're an Anti-Semite. It's a character he's doing, thinking he's being funny or clever, or at least edgy. For whatever reason, it's what he thinks is making a point (whatever the point is).

Don't take anything he says with anything more than a grain of salt. He's like Stephen Colbert, in weird theatre of the absurd kind of way. Here is a perfect way to describe it (stolen from the Wiki page on Theater of the Absurd) "Logical construction and argument give way to irrational and illogical speech and to its ultimate conclusion, silence"
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But it makes no sense. Aha, now I get it.
 
I don't have a racist bone in my body....my life is a testament to that.
 
I'm Jewish, and there's nothing anti-semitic about comparing this presidency to a low budget Coen bros. movie (although it is an insult to the Coen bros if anything.)

Brother @riverman is as good as it gets around here.
 
Stevenson said:
I'm Jewish, and there's nothing anti-semitic about comparing this presidency to a low budget Coen bros. movie (although it is an insult to the Coen bros if anything.)

Brother @riverman is as good as it gets around here.
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I love the Coen Bros movies....I think the "low budget" tag was the trigger...they can make reality look so absurd and clumsy so I guess that was my sorry assed attempt at humor.
 
barfo said:
I do have a racist bone. It's the left 5th metatarsal, and the doctor says there's nothing that can be done about it.

barfo
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well it's tough when you already have one peg leg I guess
 
barfo said:
My peg is not racist - in fact it's a dark walnut.

barfo
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walnut has solidarity unlike bleached white poplar which splits and falls apart with any pressure....you made a good choice.
 
riverman said:
I don't have a racist bone in my body....my life is a testament to that.
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I hope that's true for myself, but man I wish I could say it as confidently as you do. I want to be accepting and treat everyone as equals and I think I do ok at it, but there's always like a tug in me that thinks I need to be better, it honestly drives me to work on it. To keep my head from getting too big, because it's easy to start looking down on others, not sure if it's racism, or sexism, or whatever but I hate when I realize I'm not treating people well, whatever the reason is.
 
Stevenson said:
I'm Jewish, and there's nothing anti-semitic about comparing this presidency to a low budget Coen bros. movie (although it is an insult to the Coen bros if anything.)

Brother @riverman is as good as it gets around here.
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I am also Jewish and I don't even know what a Corn brothers movie is. If I was supposed to be offended, guess my ignorance of popular culture prevented it.
 
barfo said:
I do have a racist bone. It's the left 5th metatarsal, and the doctor says there's nothing that can be done about it.

barfo
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Me? I've got racist skull and cross bones at the top of the main mast on my ship.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I hope that's true for myself, but man I wish I could say it as confidently as you do. I want to be accepting and treat everyone as equals and I think I do ok at it, but there's always like a tug in me that thinks I need to be better, it honestly drives me to work on it. To keep my head from getting too big, because it's easy to start looking down on others, not sure if it's racism, or sexism, or whatever but I hate when I realize I'm not treating people well, whatever the reason is.
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It's something that was drilled into me by my peers in my early youth. Consequently, I fight it every day of my life. It really is pure evil whoever does it.
 
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