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interesting about that particular incident:


* " The Department of Justice has weakened its long-standing prohibition against interfering in elections, according to two department officials.

Avoiding election interference is the overarching principle of DOJ policy on voting-related crimes. In place since at least 1980, the policy generally bars prosecutors not only from making any announcement about ongoing investigations close to an election but also from taking public steps — such as an arrest or a raid — before a vote is finalized because the publicity could tip the balance of a race

But according to an email sent Friday by an official in the Public Integrity Section in Washington, now if a U.S. attorney’s office suspects election fraud that involves postal workers or military employees, federal investigators will be allowed to take public investigative steps before the polls close, even if those actions risk affecting the outcome of the election.


The email announced “an exception to the general non-interference with elections policy.” The new exemption, the email stated, applied to instances in which “the integrity of any component of the federal government is implicated by election offenses within the scope of the policy including but not limited to misconduct by federal officials or employees administering an aspect of the voting process through the United States Postal Service, the Department of Defense or any other federal department or agency.”

Both groups have been falsely singled out, in different ways, by President Donald Trump and his campaign for being involved in voter fraud. Trump has repeatedly attempted to delegitimize ballots sent through the postal service, just as the country experiences increased voting by mail spurred by the coronavirus pandemic"

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* "Justin Levitt, a former deputy assistant attorney general in the DOJ’s civil rights division, also expressed concern that the department could be encouraging prosecutors to make more public announcements about incomplete investigations, as they did in the Pennsylvania case.


“It alarms me that the DOJ would want to authorize more of the same in and around the election,” he said. “It’s incredibly painful for me to say, but given what we’ve seen recently, Americans shouldn’t trust DOJ announcements right now.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doj-...ng-standing-policy_n_5f7df355c5b6fc1dec78ba0a
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I don't have a significant issue with the report about the postal worker. The problem is context. So far, there is this incident, and it comes just weeks after judges had ordered the USPS to stop removing drop boxes and dismantling sorting machines. What will have a bigger impact on the election: this postal worker or the blatantly pro-trump moves for months by the head of the USPS?

but more than that is the lack of relevant context contrasting that postal carrier dumping less than a hundred ballots with the stories about all kinds of massive fuck-ups at polling stations all across the country, in every single election. Whether it's voting machines breaking down or ballot boxes gone missing. Apparently, that is acceptable, but any misstep by the USPS is not

it's all bullshit
 
yankeesince59 said:
An isolated incident should not be considered as an indictment on the whole postal system...but out of desperation, some feel the need to spin it otherwise.
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This thread will encompass all voting irregularities
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Post real links
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How many would you like? Do you want the business take or the political take?
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/30/the-decade-republicans-hijacked-our-democracy-via-gerrymandering/
https://billmoyers.com/story/in-2010-republicans-weaponized-gerrymandering-heres-how-they-did-it/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...blican-gerrymandering-north-carolina-michigan
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/republican-gerrymander-thomas-hofeller.html
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/8362...l-festival-of-partisan-gerrymandering-in-2021
https://www.businessinsider.com/par...efited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...he-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/27/gerrymandering-gop-hofeller-memos/

There ya go. Both sides of the isle agree. Not only that but they are well aware of the problem.
Have fun reading. Oh and there are about 1.16 million other references on the internet.
 
kjironman1 said:
How many would you like? Do you want the business take or the political take?
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/30/the-decade-republicans-hijacked-our-democracy-via-gerrymandering/
https://billmoyers.com/story/in-2010-republicans-weaponized-gerrymandering-heres-how-they-did-it/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...blican-gerrymandering-north-carolina-michigan
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/republican-gerrymander-thomas-hofeller.html
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/8362...l-festival-of-partisan-gerrymandering-in-2021
https://www.businessinsider.com/par...efited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...he-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/27/gerrymandering-gop-hofeller-memos/

There ya go. Both sides of the isle agree. Not only that but they are well aware of the problem.
Have fun reading. Oh and there are about 1.16 million other references on the internet.
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thanks for the links kj, although anybody not aware of repugnican gerrymandering and massive voter suppression is living under a rock

just in your first link alone:

* " As this decade comes to a close, 59 million Americans live in a state where one or both chambers of the state legislature is controlled by the party that got fewer votes in the 2018 election.

In Wisconsin in 2018, voters elected a Democratic U.S. senator, defeated an incumbent Republican governor, picked Democrats for every statewide office, and favored Democratic candidates for the state assembly by more than 200,000 ballots. Republicans nevertheless controlled more than 63 percent of the seats.

We end the 2020s with voter purges in Ohio, Wisconsin and Georgia, with precinct closures weaponized to lower voter participation across the South, with Texas, Tennessee and Florida making it harder to register new voters. The ball drops on the 2010s with state legislatures in Florida, Michigan and Missouri willing to undo voting reforms approved by upwards of 60 percent of the people via initiative."

* "In 2012, the first election held under these lines, Democratic U.S. House candidates won 1.4 million more votes than Republicans nationwide. Republicans held the chambers nevertheless, decisively, 234-201. In targeted swing states like Pennsylvania and Michigan, Democratic candidates would earn tens of thousands more votes, but the Republican-drawn districts packed and cracked those votes so precisely that the GOP would win 13 of the 18 seats from Pennsylvania and nine of 14 from Michigan. Democratic state legislative candidates would routinely win more votes in these states as well; Republicans would hold both chambers in Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin regardless. "

" So yes, it worked. But it also contained the seeds of the party’s unraveling, placed a frustrated and impossible-to-please base in charge, and set the stage for an outsider to sweep up the pieces four years later."
 
kjironman1 said:
How many would you like? Do you want the business take or the political take?
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/30/the-decade-republicans-hijacked-our-democracy-via-gerrymandering/
https://billmoyers.com/story/in-2010-republicans-weaponized-gerrymandering-heres-how-they-did-it/
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...blican-gerrymandering-north-carolina-michigan
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/republican-gerrymander-thomas-hofeller.html
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/8362...l-festival-of-partisan-gerrymandering-in-2021
https://www.businessinsider.com/par...efited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...he-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/27/gerrymandering-gop-hofeller-memos/

There ya go. Both sides of the isle agree. Not only that but they are well aware of the problem.
Have fun reading. Oh and there are about 1.16 million other references on the internet.
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Talking about incidences in real time. Not stuff going back to 2010.
 
Chris Craig said:
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...AQCIAQCSAQCYAQCwAQ8&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

Dictionary

ger·ry·man·der
/ˈjerēˌmandər/
Learn to pronounce

verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
  1. manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
    • achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
      "a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"
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you said gerrmander then posted a picture of a salamander....have you been taking steroids?
 
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