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Propagandist said:
You can't be serious. You're trying to elicit a response, right?

How the fuck would you know what Pocahontas looked like? That is completely dumb. The first photograph of anything was in the 1800s.
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Original Picture of Pocahontas | This famous Sedgeford portrait of Pocahontas and her son, Thomas Rolfe
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Pocahontas, Winenia, California, c1915 - Stock Image

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PtldPlatypus said:
What you don't seem to realize is that the percentage of Native American in her DNA has precisely zero to do with whether or not derisively calling her Pocahontas is racist. Trump could even be completely correct that she has no native heritage whatsoever--it would still be racist.
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Then I guess I just don’t get it. It’s not obviously racist to me. Like yeah, it’s mean but it’s just not racist to me.
 
dviss1 said:
The only people bringing up Elizabeth Warren's race are you and yours.

When did she bring it up?

Ohhhhh that's right... She didn't... Scott Brown attempted to use it as a cudgel and GOT HIS SHIT SMACKED.

It's what she does to people who use racism as a weapon?

She SMACKS THE SHIT outta them... Politically ends their careers.

Trump is next on the list. Mark my words here in this day:

If she runs in 2020, she will be our first woman head of state.

All because Trump's using this racist tactic.

I guarantee she runs. I guarantee she wins.
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If she does she does. I mean I don’t care. Politics don’t interest me
 
dviss1 said:
Look how you laugh at racist jokes...

That's the reason why you're so ardently defending it..

But then you admit:



When asked if you'd say it to a Native's face.

Why though? Why would you "laugh out loud" in a forum about it, but won't say it aloud when a native is actually present?

Get off the fence. On one hand you won't speak the words (why cippy... Why?) but in another setting you'll literally laugh out loud at the same words...

Serious question: Are they racist or not?

This was aimed at her during her Senate run and probably will be aimed at EW when she runs against Trump. Is this racist to you? If it's not, why wouldn't you say it to a Native?



I HOPE TO GOD Trump tries that shit during the campaign.
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Same reason I laugh at the chappelle shit I posted. Sometimes things can be funny.
 
The majority of my friends and family are Native Americans, and there's no set "look".
 
'Real Indian' running against Sen. Elizabeth Warren sues after city tells him to stop calling her 'Fake Indian'
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A bus parked outside Shiva Ayyadurai's campaign headquarters taunts Mass. Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren's claims of Native American heritage. (Shiva Ayyadurai U.S. Senate campaign)

A self-described "real Indian" who is running against Mass. Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren is suing after city officials demanded he take down his signs calling her a "fake Indian."

The upstart independent Senate challenger, Shiva Ayyadurai, on Sunday filed a federal lawsuit alleging that the demand from the city of Cambridge violates his constitutional free speech rights, according to The Washington Times.

Since March 17, Ayyadurai's campaign bus has sported two identical signs picturing himself and a rendition of Warren wearing Indian attire. Emblazoned next to the images are the words: "Only a REAL INDIAN Can Defeat the Fake Indian."

The bus has reportedly been stationed in a parking lot in front of an office building owned by Ayyadurai, who faces exceptionally long odds, for more than a month -- just a mile from Warren's home.


Earlier this month, the campaign received a notice from Cambridge building inspector Branden Vigneault that the signs lacked the appropriate "approvals and permits," according to local reports and the Ayyadurai campaign.

WATCH: CHEROKEE WOMAN BLASTS WARREN, ASKS HER TO STOP CLAIMING ANCESTRY

Vigneault threatened fines of $300 per day plus additional legal penalties if the signs remain in place, according to Ayyadurai.

"The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it."

- Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes
“We will not remove the slogan from our bus,” Ayyadurai told The Washington Times. “We will defend the First Amendment, and we will fight this egregious attack on the First Amendment, at any cost.”

Ayyadurai's campaign reportedly thinks the building code doesn't apply to the signs because they're on a bus, not a structure.

Warren has long been accused of saying she is of Native American heritage to help in securing jobs, including one as a Harvard law professor.

President Trump has repeatedly called Warren, a Wall Street critic and potential White House rival, “Pocahontas,” a notable American Indian woman in colonial history, to highlight the controversy. Warren has said she ruled out challenging Trump in 2020.

When asked in March whether she’d agree to calls for genetic testing to resolve the heritage controversy, Warren launched into a family history, as purportedly told by her parents and grandparents, before saying, “It’s a part of who I am, and no one’s ever going to take that away.”

Experts have cast doubt on Warren's claim.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes wrote after researching Warren's family.

But observers have also accused Ayyadurai of puffery and distortion, as well. The attacks mostly center on his longstanding claim to be the inventor of e-mail.
 
Cippy91 said:
You and the other progressives disagree with me. So that makes what? 5 of you? I mean I don’t really care it’s my opinion
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I wasn't limiting the number of those disagreeing to those just in here.

Look, whenever there is a large number of people disagreeing with me and a small number disagreeing, I re-evaluate my position with an open mind. Doesn't mean I'm wrong but it does mean that I should take another look.
 
Lanny said:
I wasn't limiting the number of those disagreeing to those just in here.

Look, whenever there is a large number of people disagreeing with me and a small number disagreeing, I re-evaluate my position with an open mind. Doesn't mean I'm wrong but it does mean that I should take another look.
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Not saying I’m not wrong but at the same time it’s kind of just how I view things. There are some things that are out right offensive and some things people choose to get offended by when they could carry on with their day and forget the nonsense.
 
Cippy91 said:
Not saying I’m not wrong but at the same time it’s kind of just how I view things. There are some things that are out right offensive and some things people choose to get offended by when they could carry on with their day and forget the nonsense.
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Offensive feedback is counterproductive and not in anyone's self interest.
 
Cippy91 said:
Same reason I laugh at the chappelle shit I posted. Sometimes things can be funny.
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Man, I watched and loved Chappelle's show too. Things can be funny. Especially if they are on the Comedy Central channel. That is meant for laughs.

The Office of the President of the United States should not be a place to make stand-up humor.

I thought this following skit was hilarious, but Trump is not NEARLY as funny as Chappelle. That is where your analogy falls flat dude. Was Dave racist, maybe, some could argue. Was Trump racist, maybe, some could argue. Was Trump funny?

 
Shaboid said:
Man, I watched and loved Chappelle's show too. Things can be funny. Especially if they are on the Comedy Central channel. That is meant for laughs.

The Office of the President of the United States should not be a place to make stand-up humor.

I thought this following skit was hilarious, but Trump is not NEARLY as funny as Chappelle. That is where your analogy falls flat dude. Was Dave racist, maybe, some could argue. Was Trump racist, maybe, some could argue. Was Trump funny?

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Not comparing trump to chappelle. That’s just crazy
 
santeesioux said:
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Does this guy look Native to you guys? I'm too scared to post my pic in here but he's in my tribe and I'm like a skinnier version of him with a beard and a much better haircut
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Wait... You started the thread... And you've been the most pissed about this... You're telling me now you look white?

Isn't that your whole argument against EW???
 
santeesioux said:
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Does this guy look Native to you guys? I'm too scared to post my pic in here but he's in my tribe and I'm like a skinnier version of him with a beard and a much better haircut
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dviss1 said:
Wait... You started the thread... And you've been the most pissed about this... You're telling me now you look white?
Isn't that your whole argument against EW???
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Oops! Now santeesioux is guilty too!
Just another devil.
 
dviss1 said:
Wait... You started the thread... And you've been the most pissed about this... You're telling me now you look white?

Isn't that your whole argument against EW???
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Native Americans are like African Americans, most have some amount of white blood in them.
 
Cippy91 said:
Not comparing trump to chappelle. That’s just crazy
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Maybe not comparing, but you bring Chappelle up a lot.

I think the question comes down to: Is Trump a Racist?

Whether I watched Chappelle's Show or not, I think I have to say, Yes. If you say no then that's okay. It's your opinion.
 
santeesioux said:
Native Americans are like African Americans, most have some amount of white blood in them.
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This is something that is not lost on me bro.

I'm well aware of this.

My point is why are you so mad at EW? You've JUST said what's true. Here YOU are calling her "whitey" and she very well could be part native...

I think that's some weird, backwards shit. It didn't make sense at all. You are literally part native (due to genocide) and you've joined the tomahawk chop guys??

:smiley-hmm:
 
Shaboid said:
Maybe not comparing, but you bring Chappelle up a lot.

I think the question comes down to: Is Trump a Racist?

Whether I watched Chappelle's Show or not, I think I have to say, Yes. If you say no then that's okay. It's your opinion.
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He's already answered this question. He's said that Trump is not racist.
 
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