Elliott Williams

[KingSpeed]

Just a thread to remember that we have this guy laying in wait. Could be Rudy's replacement. Very athletic. Him and Chris Johnson might give us an extra boost next year.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Situational Statistics: This Year’s Shooting Guard Crop
June 10, 2010
Elliot Williams does a number of things exceptionally well, and has the potential to be an efficient scorer if he improves some of his scoring tools.

Ranking right around average in terms of usage at 17.4 possessions per-game and slightly above average at 0.961 PPP overall, Williams’ best asset in comparison to his peers is his ability to use his quickness to get to the line. He was fouled on an impressive 14.2% of his overall shots, leading our sample of prospects by more than 3%.

Despite ranking right around average in terms of half court field goal percentage (42.2%), Williams scores on a higher percentage (45.4%) of his non-fast break possessions than any other player. Clearly, his first step plays a major role in his ability to create contact at the rim. His role for Memphis certainly helped as well.

Although he spent nearly twice as many of his possessions playing off the ball in spot up situations than Evan Turner (17.2% vs. 9.5%), Williams got some 43% of his offense operating one-on-one or working off a pick. A capable jump shooter when left open (42.9%), but limited when defended (27.3%), the Duke transfer has the resume of a guard capable of sliding over to handle the ball next to a shooting point guard or remaining off the ball and slashing to the rim.

Williams only shot 1.9 pull up jumpers per-game last season, preferring to drive all the way to the rim where he shot an average 51.3%. Given his lack of physical strength, Williams will need to continue to hone his shooting ability in the mid-range area to become a more complete offensive threat at the shooting guard position.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Elliot-Williams-5153/#ixzz1LSYmOMMK
http://www.draftexpress.com

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I wonder what his athletic ability will be like after his two knee surgeries.

Is this version dead and gone?

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[VanillaGorilla]

I don't think his surgeries will affect his athleticism. He said he hopes to be more athletic than before. Wweren't the surgeries just to keep his kneecaps from popping out of place?

 

[KingSpeed]

His dunks at Fan Fest were amazing.

 

[barfo]

Just a thread to remember that we have this guy laying in wait. Could be Rudy's replacement. Very athletic. Him and Chris Johnson might give us an extra boost next year.

I'm excited to see him. It sounds like he's a type of player that we don't have on the team. Well, other than him, I mean.

barfo

 

[Mediocre Man]

He is definately the missing piece to our run of championships. Those garbage minutes along with Armon Johnson's are going to be the difference

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

He is definately the missing piece to our run of championships. Those garbage minutes along with Armon Johnson's are going to be the difference

grumpity grump grump

 

[illmatic99]

This is just sad. Our draftees:

2010- Williams injured even before the start of the season
2009- Pendergraph and Mills injured even before the start of the season
2008
2007- Greg injured even before the start of the season
2006- Aldridge injured even before the start of the season
2005
2004- Monia injured even before the start of the season

 

[Blazinaway]

I don't think his surgeries will affect his athleticism. He said he hopes to be more athletic than before. Wweren't the surgeries just to keep his kneecaps from popping out of place?

I agree with this, the surgeries were to correct a genetic "condition", no meniscus or ligaments or tendons has been damaged leading to the surgery. I have a feeling Blazers knew this might be the case and that's why he dropped as far in the draft as he did - just a guess on that

 

[STOMP]

This is just sad. Our draftees:

2010- Williams injured even before the start of the season
2009- Pendergraph and Mills injured even before the start of the season
2008
2007- Greg injured even before the start of the season
2006- Aldridge injured even before the start of the season
2005
2004- Monia injured even before the start of the season

Of course Elliott had the injury concern/surgery looming going into the draft. Had this not been the case, in all probability he'd have been a lotto pick on someone else's roster. The reports I've read say that the surgeries he's had should be a permanent fix and that he'll have lost none of his explosiveness.

In this case anyway, an injury to a player may end up being to the benefit of Portland... so thats kind of happy!

STOMP

 

[Blazinaway]

Of course Elliott had the injury concern/surgery looming going into the draft. Had this not been the case, in all probability he'd have been a lotto pick on someone else's roster. The reports I've read say that the surgeries he's had should be a permanent fix and that he'll have lost none of his explosiveness.

In this case anyway, an injury to a player may end up being to the benefit of Portland... so thats kind of happy!

STOMP

If I remember correctly didn't Nic drop well down in the drafy because od some heart condition or similar rumor - we stole him on that. I think Elliot works out as good as Batum and what was once thought of as abundance of SG's is not that and Williams may be needed soon and get significant backup minutes as i think Rudy may be gone or Elliot beats him out. He is touted as an excellent defender prospect as well.

 

[Further]

I hope he uses this time not only to return from injury, but also to work on his long ball. He has a great first step, but in the NBA, if you aren't a threat from distance, the first step is negated. Also, with how crappy the Blazers were this year from 3pt-land, His best chance to make an impact is to be able to hit open jumpers. I also hope he learns to go right, but that will come in time as it's not as easy to work on this alone in a gym as it is to work on shooting.

 

[Blazinaway]

I hope he uses this time not only to return from injury, but also to work on his long ball. He has a great first step, but in the NBA, if you aren't a threat from distance, the first step is negated. Also, with how crappy the Blazers were this year from 3pt-land, His best chance to make an impact is to be able to hit open jumpers. I also hope he learns to go right, but that will come in time as it's not as easy to work on this alone in a gym as it is to work on shooting.

Maybe the two lefties (Armon) can work together, they both need work on the J and using the right hand.

 

[illmatic99]

Of course Elliott had the injury concern/surgery looming going into the draft. Had this not been the case, in all probability he'd have been a lotto pick on someone else's roster. The reports I've read say that the surgeries he's had should be a permanent fix and that he'll have lost none of his explosiveness.

In this case anyway, an injury to a player may end up being to the benefit of Portland... so thats kind of happy!

STOMP

I wish we would have used that rationale in 09 and drafted Blair. We passed on him 3 times!

 

[oldmangrouch]

He is definately the missing piece to our run of championships. Those garbage minutes along with Armon Johnson's are going to be the difference

Johnson and Williams, backcourt of the future! With Luke Babbitt at PF and Patty Mills as "The Center".

 

[maxiep]

I hope he uses this time not only to return from injury, but also to work on his long ball. He has a great first step, but in the NBA, if you aren't a threat from distance, the first step is negated. Also, with how crappy the Blazers were this year from 3pt-land, His best chance to make an impact is to be able to hit open jumpers. I also hope he learns to go right, but that will come in time as it's not as easy to work on this alone in a gym as it is to work on shooting.

I'm glad I read the thread, because this is exactly what I was going to post. Repped.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

6'4" is decent hight for sg,lil smallish, is that with/without shoes?

 

[STOMP]

6'4" is decent hight for sg,lil smallish, is that with/without shoes?

he didn't go to the predraft so

probably just see how he stands up next to Blazers with known heights to get a best guess

STOMP

 

[VanillaGorilla]

he didn't go to the predraft so

probably just see how he stands up next to Blazers with known heights to get a best guess

STOMP

How tall does it look like he is in this?

Luke Babbitt: 6'7.5" w/o shoes, 6'8.75" w/ shoes.

Armon Johnson: 6'2" w/o shoes, 6'3.25" w/ shoes.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

There are a bunch of articles that reference a "nice" wingspan. Whatever that means.

 

[STOMP]

How tall does it look like he is in this?

about 6'4 barefoot

There are a bunch of articles that reference a "nice" wingspan. Whatever that means.

probably 4-6" more then his height is my feel. Less then that is an "okay" wingspan, more then that might be described as "outstanding"

STOMP

 

[Rhal]

Elliot Williams is the player I hope gets a lot of time next year. He isn't really a PG but a very athletic SG who had good court vision. I always compared him to Bayless but bigger and can pass when getting to the rim instead of trying to always finish. If he gets his three point shot down he could be a great combo guard off the bench, if not he will probably sit on the pine all game.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'd say he's a legit 6'5" - Armon Johnson is 6'3.25" w/shoes and he's clearly a few inches shorter than Williams.

 

[jlprk]

Given his lack of physical strength, Williams will need to continue to hone his shooting ability in the mid-range area to become a more complete offensive threat at the shooting guard position.

The scouting report sounds like Rudy physically, but mentally, Williams will take many years to get to Rudy's basketball IQ.

Bad news. I spent a few minutes on the picture with a ruler. Williams is only 6'3" barefoot.

This assumes babbitt and Johnson are exactly 6'7.5" and 6'2" The exact result was 6'3.04" and yes, I corrected for Babbitt's tilted head. He needs to have that fixed.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

The scouting report sounds like Rudy physically, but mentally, Williams will take many years to get to Rudy's basketball IQ.

The one and only part that makes him sound like Rudy is strength, and Elliot has a much better frame and should be able to put on some muscle. Elliot's greatest attribute is his quick first step. Rudy has no first step. Elliot is probably one of the best leapers in the NBA and is most likely fast and quick in other areas.

 

[jlprk]

Both "need work on their shooting," a euphemism for, "They've been working on it for years and what you see is what you get." Rudy is 2-3 inches taller and has a World more experience.

 

[PapaG]

Williams is supposedly a very good (and lengthy) perimeter defender. That alone makes him very unlike Rudy.

 

[B-Roy]

The one and only part that makes him sound like Rudy is strength, and Elliot has a much better frame and should be able to put on some muscle. Elliot's greatest attribute is his quick first step. Rudy has no first step.

I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Rudy is actually pretty adequate at getting to the rim, it's just finishing that he has a problem with. I can't count the number of times Rudy made a YAY OH COME ON play getting to the rim and bricking the layup.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Rudy is actually pretty adequate at getting to the rim, it's just finishing that he has a problem with. I can't count the number of times Rudy made a YAY OH COME ON play getting to the rim and bricking the layup.

This honestly perplexes me because Rudy almost never gets to the rim. He has no moves that let him get by his defender.. Am I taking crazy pills?