Let the cake bake?

[Scalma]

We stay pat we aren't winning period.

There is no other answer. No other argument.

wonder how many people thought the same after the pelicans series. Everyone?

 

[Strenuus]

wonder how many people thought the same after the pelicans series. Everyone?

I'm pretty sure I did. I've kinda had the same macro view since at least 2016 lol.

 

[Strenuus]

True, but how many trade scenarios right now, will make us legitimate contenders? Two or three?
And if neither of those is desired by the other team, then an argument for waiting can legitimately be made.
I realize we desperately need a PF, but as painful as it might be, waiting might have to be considered.

And for all of you who think that trading Dame's best friend on the team is what is going to make him happy,
my guess is that is only going to happen if the returning asset is really really good.

He legit said "the team isn't good enough". Dame is smart. He knows trading CJ is gonna be one of the things that has to be done to bring back a more balanced roster.

Dame knows this is a business. I'm sure him and CJ have had the talk. CJ isn't dumb either.

 

[Scalma]

He legit said "the team isn't good enough". Dame is smart.

If we wanna get technical, he also said a new coach might change the trajectory of the team and specifically mentioned examples of other teams that made a jump after they hired someone else. I’m not sure there’s a mandate for a new roster/trade. I don’t think Dame cares how they get better, as long as they get better. You really think he wouldn’t wanna win with CJ in an ideal world?

 

[Strenuus]

If we wanna get technical, he also said a new coach might change the trajectory of the team and specifically mentioned examples of other teams that made a jump after they hired someone else. I’m not sure there’s a mandate for a new roster/trade. I don’t think Dame cares how they get better, as long as they get better. You really think he wouldn’t wanna win with CJ in an ideal world?

If CJ was a better fit, yeah. But we have norm. A much much better fit.

Cj needs to go.

 

[Scalma]

If CJ was a better fit, yeah. But we have norm. A much much better fit.

Cj needs to go.

Billups has mentioned using CJ more off the ball. If he’s used as a Klay/Redick he would be lethal. I’ve felt he’s been misused by Stotts who essentially gave him the same freedom Dame got. I’m not against a McCollum trade, maybe even prefer it, but I’d still be curious to see this plan in motion. I’m not trading him just to trade him. He could increase his value before the deadline.

 

[blazerkor]

If we wanna get technical, he also said a new coach might change the trajectory of the team and specifically mentioned examples of other teams that made a jump after they hired someone else. I’m not sure there’s a mandate for a new roster/trade. I don’t think Dame cares how they get better, as long as they get better. You really think he wouldn’t wanna win with CJ in an ideal world?

If we wanna get technical he followed that up by saying that he doesn't see this roster as being one that could contend even if Chauncey is the greatest coach ever. So, I think he either had a change of heart after talking with Chauncey and Neil or he's just giving it time before Neil either makes a move or he asks out. Multiple reports said he wants to give Chauncey a shot and other reports said that he wouldn't ask to be dealt until he saw what the team could do. Those reports speculated that means that if the first couple of months don't go well and there hasn't been an upgrade to the roster... that he'll ask to be traded by the deadline.

Obviously these reporters spend a lot of time talking out of their asses. So who knows what's going to happen but that timeline sounds pretty logical given what we've heard from Dame.

 

[Natebishop3]

This cake has been out of the oven and out on the counter for 9 years. The cake is moldy. There's flies. It's completely dried out. It's time to throw the cake in the garbage.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If CJ was a better fit, yeah. But we have norm. A much much better fit.

Cj needs to go.

I don't disagree that resigning Norm has made CJ expendable. We need an upgrade at PF.
My point was that fans were suggesting that Dame was going to be pissed when he got back from Tokyo if no major move was made.
Which in a roundabout way meant that Dame was going to be pissed if CJ was still on the team. I don't doubt that Dame and CJ have discussed the possibility, but thinking that Dame would be furious that it has not been done........ is a little ridiculous.

 

[Scalma]

I don't disagree that resigning Norm has made CJ expendable. We need an upgrade at PF.
My point was that fans were suggesting that Dame was going to be pissed when he got back from Tokyo if no major move was made.
Which in a roundabout way meant that Dame was going to be pissed if CJ was still on the team. I don't doubt that Dame and CJ have discussed the possibility, but thinking that Dame would be furious that it has not been done........ is a little ridiculous.

That’s his best buddy on the team, and we know enough about Dame to know how loyal he is to his people. In an ideal world he would want to play and win with CJ. No way he’s telling Olshey to trade him. He’s more likely to be against it than for it. Yes he wants to win, and he’s pushing Olshey, but I don’t believe he wants it at any cost. He would’ve already asked out if it was. It’s still kinda funny though how everyone has just taken the stance that it’s Olshey who is vehemently against trading McCollum, and not his best friend/team captain.

 

[riverman]

When Dame said we're not good enough people forget that he's including himself in that statement...he says it every off season and works on his game...he was really trying on defense in the Olympic games...CJ and Dame's mom's are also best friends they bought houses for in Portland...I get the impression both their mom's will have a say in splitting them up as well.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Simply need to improve defensively and stay healthy. This team will surprise.

 

[Shaboid]

When Dame said we're not good enough people forget that he's including himself in that statement...he says it every off season and works on his game...he was really trying on defense in the Olympic games...CJ and Dame's mom's are also best friends they bought houses for in Portland...I get the impression both their mom's will have a say in splitting them up as well.

lol what are earth are their mom's going to do?

 

[riverman]

lol what are earth are their mom's going to do?

I've heard Dame and CJ talk about their moms....forget their agents...their mom's are alpha's! I'm a guy who loves people who invest in the city and culture and we have two guys who really do that...for what I think are the right reasons. Mutual respect. I honestly think they'll both be career Blazers..both Dame and CJ have laughed their way through this trade rumor mill together. I am interested to see how Chauncey will up their games

 

[Shaboid]

I've heard Dame and CJ talk about their moms....forget their agents...their mom's are alpha's! I'm a guy who loves people who invest in the city and culture and we have two guys who really do that...for what I think are the right reasons. Mutual respect. I honestly think they'll both be career Blazers..both Dame and CJ have laughed their way through this trade rumor mill together. I am interested to see how Chauncey will up their games

That's all fine and good, and I love both Dame and CJ too. I just don't think their mom's have any say if either of them are getting traded.

 

[Hoopguru]

I've heard Dame and CJ talk about their moms....forget their agents...their mom's are alpha's! I'm a guy who loves people who invest in the city and culture and we have two guys who really do that...for what I think are the right reasons. Mutual respect. I honestly think they'll both be career Blazers..both Dame and CJ have laughed their way through this trade rumor mill together. I am interested to see how Chauncey will up their games

Im assuming Chauncey will have real influence on the both of them if one or both are still here. He said during one interview I heard, its starts with those two in adopting an aggressive defensive strategy.

 

[riverman]

CJ has worked with Roco and hiked the gorge with our trainers already this summer...I think he's a really, really bright guy and knows his days of 13 dribble chuck are over now....Dame too...Neil and Jody aren't going to piss Dame off by moving CJ and I think people forget that he's part of this conversation. They can trade anybody sure but I don't see them trading their two best players before Chauncey gets a chance to make them two way players..there are probably 50 trade CJ threads since he was drafted...I don't think it's a front office strategy at all whether folks like it or not.. I think staggering Norm and CJ keeps a good two guard rotation and a small ball option..if you play all three together