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barfo said:
Sorry, but no. Internet prosecutors don't count.

Keep trying though. Maybe another 20 years and another $20 million spent on investigations will turn something up.

Or you could just declare her a witch and burn her at the stake.

barfo
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Michael Mukasey would charge Hiliar and he was the Attorney General of the United States. Not some internet prosecutor.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-emails-a-criminal-charge-is-justified-1453419158

Clinton’s Emails: A Criminal Charge Is Justified
Hillary’s explanations look increasingly contrived as evidence of malfeasance mounts day by day.
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Mr. Mukasey served as a U.S. district judge (1988-2006) and as U.S. attorney general (2007-09).

You keep trying and failing ;)
 
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Denny Crane said:
Michael Mukasey would charge Hiliar and he was the Attorney General of the United States. Not some internet prosecutor.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-emails-a-criminal-charge-is-justified-1453419158

Clinton’s Emails: A Criminal Charge Is Justified
Hillary’s explanations look increasingly contrived as evidence of malfeasance mounts day by day.
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Mr. Mukasey served as a U.S. district judge (1988-2006) and as U.S. attorney general (2007-09).

You keep trying and failing ;)
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Internet prosecutor. See, the word 'served' is past tense. He doesn't current serve in that role, and it is not his job to prosecute. So he's free to say any kind of shit he wants, just like the rest of us, and it has the same legal weight.

barfo
 
Nikolokolus said:
Ignorance must be bliss.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
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Ignorance? I asked for facts of criminal wrong doing. You provide nothing but veiled attacks on my character. This article shows nothing but attempts to tie Trump to illegal activity.

Let me know if you find any criminal charges and wrong doing that you can prove. Literally all of those things were mainly heresay with some normal business litigation. The only thing close was appealed and settled out of court.

It is kind of funny that you Talk about Jersey development deals and then go straight to an all out history smear post, basically changing your entire post.


Again all I asked was for facts to be presented on the shit you spouted but even the articles linked are lacking certain clarity to push your original claim.
 
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blue32 said:
Ignorance? I asked for facts of criminal wrong doing. You provide nothing but veiled attacks on my character. This article shows nothing but attempts to tie Trump to illegal activity.

Let me know if you find any criminal charges and wrong doing that you can prove.
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You haven't read these things obviously...he's settled out of court everytime he was wrong and his wrongs are well documented. If you trust Trump, that's your choice....your value system...but my trust has flashing red lights and sirens with this guy's whole history...never liked him, never will. I respect your right to vote for him but I don't respect him.
 
riverman said:
You haven't read these things obviously...he's settled out of court everytime he was wrong and his wrongs are well documented. If you trust Trump, that's your choice....your value system...but my trust has flashing red lights and sirens with this guy's whole history...never liked him, never will. I respect your right to vote for him but I don't respect him.
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I read them. But we werent discussing that. I asked for proof of these "Jersey deals" Nik was rambling on about. He provided a smear page with shaky evidence at best to support HIS claim.

I could care less what the man does in business. Was he brought up on federal or state charges? No. Did he break any laws? Unknown honestly. It could have been associates running his businesses that caused some of this litigation. Again unknown.

Overall he's been very successful in business. That's obvious.

I guess I'm more concerned that people would worry about that when we have a woman running that has actually got Americans killed and then lied straight to the families faces. Among many other proven acts of wrongdoing.
 
barfo said:
Internet prosecutor. See, the word 'served' is past tense. He doesn't current serve in that role, and it is not his job to prosecute. So he's free to say any kind of shit he wants, just like the rest of us, and it has the same legal weight.

barfo
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REAL prosecutor. Went to law school and everything, unlike you. Worked at the highest level of government, the same job as Loretta Lynch (who would not prosecute a high profile democrat for just about any reason).

There are numerous others who would prosecute. Including those on the left.

http://lawnewz.com/opinion/yes-hillary-clinton-did-commit-a-crime/
 
blue32 said:
Ignorance? I asked for facts of criminal wrong doing. You provide nothing but veiled attacks on my character. This article shows nothing but attempts to tie Trump to illegal activity.

Let me know if you find any criminal charges and wrong doing that you can prove. Literally all of those things were mainly heresay with some normal business litigation. The only thing close was appealed and settled out of court.

It is kind of funny that you Talk about Jersey development deals and then go straight to an all out history smear post, basically changing your entire post.


Again all I asked was for facts to be presented on the shit you spouted but even the articles linked are lacking certain clarity to push your original claim.
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Veiled attacks on your character? That is interesting ...
 
Heh.. Ignorance means you have no knowledge of (most of) the things in the article.

From what I can see, much of it is throwing stuff at the wall, hoping something will stick.

Government Motors has been sued many times more than Trump and has settled a large number.

You have to look at which ones might actually have merit.
 
@blue32

For the record all I ever suggested is that Trump being the guy to fix a corrupt system strains credulity because of his long history operating in (a well documented) corrupt business /political climate.

You can't swim in sewage without getting dirty.

Clinton is just as bad FYI.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Clinton is just as bad FYI.
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That's just bullshit. There is nothing conceivable that Clinton is remotely as bad as Trump as (in? at?). The difference is that Clinton is a career politician (because, you know, she actually cares about this stuff) so has left a trail of inevitably investigatable behavior (the real world requiring compromise and shenanigans). Trump hasn't, because he's not remotely interested in public service. So if we're being fair, we should compare Hillary's life before politics with Trump's 70 years on this planet. Because I'm sure, if Trump were ever allowed into politics, in his first week he'd produce more shit than Clinton has managed to in 40+ years.
 
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Nikolokolus said:
Veiled attacks on your character? That is interesting ...
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Maybe I misread your intention. My apologies.


Nikolokolus said:
@blue32

For the record all I ever suggested is that Trump being the guy to fix a corrupt system strains credulity because of his long history operating in (a well documented) corrupt business /political climate.

You can't swim in sewage without getting dirty.

Clinton is just as bad FYI.
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IDK. I am not entirely sold. I feel like his snail trail is much less worse than Clintons. Both could be possibly dirty crooks, but Clinton's sold it for me hands down on just the sheer audacity of her lying and getting Americans killed.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
That's just bullshit. There is nothing conceivable that Clinton is remotely as bad as Trump as (in? at?). The difference is that Clinton is a career politician (because, you know, she actually cares about this stuff) so has left a trail of inevitably investigatable behavior (the real world requiring compromise and shenanigans). Trump hasn't, because he's not remotely interested in public service. So if we're being fair, we should compare Hillary's life before politics with Trump's 70 years on this planet. Because I'm sure, if Trump were ever allowed into politics, in his first week he'd produce more shit than Clinton has managed to in 40+ years.
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There are lots of career politicians. Even Nixon didn't skirt or break the laws for a whole career. Nobody accused John Kerry of crimes when he ran. Or Al Gore. Or Dukakis. Or Mondale, though Ferraro's husband actually was a crook. What makes Hiliar so special that the LOL "vast right wing conspiracy" is only out to get her? To follow her throughout her career?

Even the people and news organizations in her home state, Arkansas, thought she was beyond shady all along.
 
blue32 said:
Maybe I misread your intention. My apologies.

IDK. I am not entirely sold. I feel like his snail trail is much less worse than Clintons. Both could be possibly dirty crooks, but Clinton's sold it for me hands down on just the sheer audacity of her lying and getting Americans killed.
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This is the syphilis vs. cholera debate again.

People should vote for whomever they want, but instead of picking the lesser of two evils this year I'm going whole hog and picking the greater.

cthulhu-for-president.png


er . . .

I mean, I'm voting for Johson.
 
Denny Crane said:
REAL prosecutor. Went to law school and everything, unlike you. Worked at the highest level of government, the same job as Loretta Lynch (who would not prosecute a high profile democrat for just about any reason).

There are numerous others who would prosecute. Including those on the left.

http://lawnewz.com/opinion/yes-hillary-clinton-did-commit-a-crime/
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Sure, he was a real prosecutor. Now, he isn't.

It doesn't matter how many retired people, politicians, internet cranks, editorialists, nba stars, bloggers, men-on-the-street, etc. say they'd prosecute.

It only matters whether the people who currently have the job think they should prosecute. That's the way our judicial system works.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
There are lots of career politicians. Even Nixon didn't skirt or break the laws for a whole career. Nobody accused John Kerry of crimes when he ran. Or Al Gore. Or Dukakis. Or Mondale, though Ferraro's husband actually was a crook. What makes Hiliar so special that the LOL "vast right wing conspiracy" is only out to get her? To follow her throughout her career?
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Good question. Why are you so worked up about her?

If she's so incredibly corrupt - more corrupt, according to you, than any other politician ever - why haven't you been able to bring her down? You and your weird Republican friends have literally spent millions of taxpayer dollars trying to pin something, anything on her.

And you've failed, totally. She's going to be your next president.

Either she's way smarter than all of you conservatives put together, or she isn't actually any more corrupt than the average politician.

Or both, perhaps.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Sure, he was a real prosecutor. Now, he isn't.

It doesn't matter how many retired people, politicians, internet cranks, editorialists, nba stars, bloggers, men-on-the-street, etc. say they'd prosecute.

It only matters whether the people who currently have the job think they should prosecute. That's the way our judicial system works.

barfo
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Federal Prosecutors WOULD bring her up on charges, period.
 
barfo said:
Good question. Why are you so worked up about her?

If she's so incredibly corrupt - more corrupt, according to you, than any other politician ever - why haven't you been able to bring her down? You and your weird Republican friends have literally spent millions of taxpayer dollars trying to pin something, anything on her.

And you've failed, totally. She's going to be your next president.

Either she's way smarter than all of you conservatives put together, or she isn't actually any more corrupt than the average politician.

Or both, perhaps.

barfo
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Capone fooled the FBI and police. OJ was innocent! Many things have been successfully pinned on her.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-state-department-clinton-foundation/

First on CNN: Inside the debate over probing the Clinton Foundation


(CNN) Officials from the FBI and Department of Justice met several months ago to discuss opening a public corruption case into the Clinton Foundation, according to a US official.

At the time, three field offices were in agreement an investigation should be launched after the FBI received notification from a bank of suspicious activity from a foreigner who had donated to the Clinton Foundation, according to the official.
 
Denny Crane said:
Federal Prosecutors WOULD bring her up on charges, period.
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Would if they had anything to charge her with, sure. I agree with that.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Good question. Why are you so worked up about her?

If she's so incredibly corrupt - more corrupt, according to you, than any other politician ever - why haven't you been able to bring her down? You and your weird Republican friends have literally spent millions of taxpayer dollars trying to pin something, anything on her.

And you've failed, totally. She's going to be your next president.

Either she's way smarter than all of you conservatives put together, or she isn't actually any more corrupt than the average politician.

Or both, perhaps.

barfo
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Or binary logic isn't good logic at all.
 
Denny Crane said:
Capone fooled the FBI and police. OJ was innocent! Many things have been successfully pinned on her.
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Doesn't seem like you've been too successful.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Would if they had anything to charge her with, sure. I agree with that.

barfo
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They'd charge her with violation of national security laws. Now it looks like three FBI field offices were told to stand down. And you ask why she's not been indicted.
 
Denny Crane said:
They'd charge her with violation of national security laws. Now it looks like three FBI field offices were told to stand down. And you ask why she's not been indicted.
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I don't ask that. I know the answer. You are the one asking. I'll repeat the answer for you, though:

Either she's way smarter than all of you conservatives put together, or she isn't actually any more corrupt than the average politician.

Or both, perhaps.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Doesn't seem like you've been too successful.

barfo
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You're in the minority, as usual. Very few people think she's honest, and most think she's a criminal.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-charges-poll/

Washington, DC (CNN)A majority of Americans say they disagree with the FBI's decision not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, according to a new poll.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll, released Monday, found that 56% of American adults disapprove of the FBI's decision, while 35% said they approved. But a majority -- 58% -- also said the issue would not affect their vote in the 2016 presidential election.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majo...-charge-clinton-emails-poll/story?id=40445344

Overall, 56 percent disapprove of FBI Director James Comey's recommendation not to charge Clinton, while just 35 percent approve. Similarly, 57 percent say the incident makes them worried about how Clinton might act as president if she is elected, with most very worried about it. Just 39 percent feel the issue isn't related to how she would perform as president.

What's that saying again? Fool me once, shame on thee. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me every time, my name is barfo.
 
barfo said:
I don't ask that. I know the answer. You are the one asking. I'll repeat the answer for you, though:

Either she's way smarter than all of you conservatives put together, or she isn't actually any more corrupt than the average politician.

Or both, perhaps.

barfo
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Or binary logic isn't much logic at all. Smarter than a 5th grader stuff.
 
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