Enough Role-Players what STARS should we target?

[Idog1976]

And no please no STARS Cabaret suggestions.

Medicore Man becoming the avatar of Irony, pointed out in the Mo Williams thread that Portland is filled with role players and what we need is another star next to Roy.

So with that in mind and Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Dwight Howard, D Will and Rondo off the table. Who should Portland target?

Please try and be realistic. So if you are proposing a trade for CP3 because you are really feeling original today, please offer up the goods (at least LMA ++++) in a theoretical trade.

I feel like Bosh is a good target, but probably isn't realistic as he wants to be the MAN wherever he goes and is looking for some lime light.

Some folks I think might be achievable are Igoudala (meh), T Parker (Meh+), Devin Harris, Danny Granger, Darren Collison (budding star?). In that vein maybe an upcoming star like Tyreke Evans, Stephen Curry, Eric Gordon?

Just to Hijack my own thread CP3 is open to a trade!!!!

Seriously though, lets hear it who is the missing star? How do you get them? Please no garbage expiring contracts and filler for a star trades. That's for me to do in YOUR thread not the other way around.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

CP3

/thread

 

[Idog1976]

CP3

/thread

I assume that's a deal for cash then?

 

[blazerboy30]

It should be easy enough for a team like the Blazers, who are over the cap, to exchange their mediocre / average / role players for a star. I mean, the main reason other teams exist in this league is to help out Portland, right?

 

[Minstrel]

1. Get a bunch of decent players
2. Find trade partners
3. Discuss trades
4. ???
5. Acquire Chris Paul

 

[LameR]

1. Get a bunch of decent players
2. Find trade partners
3. Discuss trades
4. ???
5. Acquire Chris Paul

6. Profit.

 

[Minstrel]

6. Profit.

I was adapting it. The "Acquire Chris Paul" was the "profit" for the Blazers.

A Chris Paul/Okafor deal probably wouldn't lead to profit for Allen.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Medicore Man becoming the avatar of Irony,

Was I just insulted?


I think Bosh is a good target, and I honestly don't think he'd be too hard to get.

I thnk to get him though, you'd need to figure out a way to keep his buddy, Aldridge.


I still like overpaying for someone like Chris Paul. If Portland can deal Rudy for a low lottery pick (which has been rumored) then I think you could get something done. Let's use #10.

I think you could get NO to listen hard with a package of

Aldridge
Bayless
Batum
Joel
#10
#22

for

Paul
Okafor


Then all of a sudden Lebron looks hard at Portland because Chris Paul is here

S&T with Cleveland

Roy
Oden
Filler
for

Lebron

That leaves you with

Paul and Lebron, and a bunch of lesser role players along with a draft pick you purchaced from Miami

But Paul, Lebron, Okafor, Camby isn't the worst line up ever, and I would argue it's better than anything we can put on the floor now

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I've posted it before, but I'll post it in here too. Contingent on the following:
a.) SA will part with Tony Parker for a top-5 pick, because they want a young big to pair with and eventually replace Duncan;
b.) MIN offered up the #4 for Nic Batum
I'd target Tony Parker, sending Rudy and Batum to Minnesota, who sends Brewer to us and the #4 to SA (who also receives Joel for salary purposes). Leaves us with:

Parker/Miller
Roy/Bayless
Brewer/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ok, how about Aldridge and something to Dallas as part of a S&T Dirk deal? Aldridge is a home town boy, and Dallas could do a lot worse than replacing Dirk with Aldridge and say, Rudy

 

[Draco]

If Portland can deal Rudy for a low lottery pick (which has been rumored) then I think you could get something done. Let's use #10.

I don't believe Rudy's current value is close to a top10 pick.

Hell the rumor out of New York is #37!

 

[tlongII]

I like the STARS in Bend the best personally.

 

[Idog1976]

Was I just insulted?


I think Bosh is a good target, and I honestly don't think he'd be too hard to get.

I thnk to get him though, you'd need to figure out a way to keep his buddy, Aldridge.


I still like overpaying for someone like Chris Paul. If Portland can deal Rudy for a low lottery pick (which has been rumored) then I think you could get something done. Let's use #10.

I think you could get NO to listen hard with a package of

Aldridge
Bayless
Batum
Joel
#10
#22

for

Paul
Okafor


Then all of a sudden Lebron looks hard at Portland because Chris Paul is here

S&T with Cleveland

Roy
Oden
Filler
for

Lebron

That leaves you with

Paul and Lebron, and a bunch of lesser role players along with a draft pick you purchaced from Miami

But Paul, Lebron, Okafor, Camby isn't the worst line up ever, and I would argue it's better than anything we can put on the floor now

Not insulted, but I felt you truly were being the avatar of irony when you complained about the mediocrity of the non-Roy members of the team.

 

[Idog1976]

I've posted it before, but I'll post it in here too. Contingent on the following:
a.) SA will part with Tony Parker for a top-5 pick, because they want a young big to pair with and eventually replace Duncan;
b.) MIN offered up the #4 for Nic Batum
I'd target Tony Parker, sending Rudy and Batum to Minnesota, who sends Brewer to us and the #4 to SA (who also receives Joel for salary purposes). Leaves us with:

Parker/Miller
Roy/Bayless
Brewer/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

Horrible, I'll keep Batum over Parker. Batum shouldn't be leaving unless we get someone godlike like CP3. I'd rather trade Aldridge then Batum.

Untouchables in order: Roy, Oden, Batum, LMA.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not insulted, but I felt you truly were being the avatar of irony when you complained about the mediocrity of the non-Roy members of the team.

I know. I was trying to be humorous.

 

[Idog1976]

Ok, how about Aldridge and something to Dallas as part of a S&T Dirk deal? Aldridge is a home town boy, and Dallas could do a lot worse than replacing Dirk with Aldridge and say, Rudy

That's a good idea. Roy and Dirk could definitely make some noise. Difficult to shut them both down and Dirk would play well off of Oden. I like it.

 

[EGame]

Chris Paul for all of our Spanish players. Everyone comes out a winner.

 

[MARIS61]

LeBron is the only star available worth bringing here.

Otherwise, draft and bake as usual.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Maris, why don't you like Paul?

 

[LittleAlex]

Maris, why don't you like Paul?

He isn't a no defense Spanish point guard who can't shoot.

I thought it was obvious.

 

[andalusian]

He isn't a no defense Spanish point guard who can't shoot.

I thought it was obvious.

Maybe we can call him "El Christo Paul". Would that work?

 

[Nikolokolus]

LeBron is the only star available worth bringing here.

Otherwise, draft and bake as usual.

Baked? Yeah, I figured as much.

Maris, why don't you like Paul?

He's not Sergio.

 

[barfo]

Chris Paul for all of our Spanish players. Everyone comes out a winner.

No. The principle of conservation of spanish players cannot be violated. Paul would need to obtain spanish citizenship.

barfo

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Horrible, I'll keep Batum over Parker. Batum shouldn't be leaving unless we get someone godlike like CP3. I'd rather trade Aldridge then Batum.

Untouchables in order: Roy, Oden, Batum, LMA.

You think that

Miller/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

is better than

Parker/Miller
Roy/Bayless
Brewer/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

...Really?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Horrible, I'll keep Batum over Parker. Batum shouldn't be leaving unless we get someone godlike like CP3.

Vanilla Gorilla has the crux of it--which lineup gives a better shot at a title? I might follow by asking, why are you carping about needing stars over role players if you'd rather keep Batum (a role player) over Parker (a 28-year-old finals MVP and 3-time all-star)?

 

[Idog1976]

You think that

Miller/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

is better than

Parker/Miller
Roy/Bayless
Brewer/Webster
Aldridge/Cunningham
Oden/Camby

...Really?

I'm saying that:

Parker/Miller
Roy/Bayless
Batum/Webster
Camby/Oden/Pendergraph/draft pick
Oden/Camby

is better then your proposal because you have defenders on the perimeter and the middle. Giving up LMA IMO doesn't hurt the team as much as giving up Batum. You added Brewer out of nowhere so add a journeyman PF to my lineup as well. Getting rid of Aldridge lets Parker and Oden score more and keeps a tight perimeter.

By the way Batum is my second guess for potential second star behind Oden. LMA isn't it he's had plenty of time to show what he's got and the answer is little or no heart. Before you dog on Odens health let me remind folks that if oden is an injury riddled nightmare from here on out there is no championship for years if not a decade. Our chances with a healthy oden and the lineup above are about 15 - 20% in Sterns league. Without a healthy Oden that drops to about 0.0005%

 

[Idog1976]

Vanilla Gorilla has the crux of it--which lineup gives a better shot at a title? I might follow by asking, why are you carping about needing stars over role players if you'd rather keep Batum (a role player) over Parker (a 28-year-old finals MVP and 3-time all-star)?

I'm talking about which role player LMA or Batum, that I feel is more valuable. I'm also talking about which roleplayer has more star potential. The answer to both is Batum.

Also Parker while more likely available then many stars, isn't my favorite choice as then your three stars all have very spotty injury histories. I'm a big fan of Batum and wouldn't trade him unless it was for an absolute no brained like Paul or Lebron.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm talking about which role player LMA or Batum, that I feel is more valuable. I'm also talking about which roleplayer has more star potential. The answer to both is Batum.

Let's roll it back. Your first statement in reply to me was "Horrible. I'll keep Batum over Parker." The whole Batum/Aldridge thing is separate. Now, if you'd rather trade Aldridge straight up for Parker, then that's fine, but that still doesn't support your initial response, especially in light of the thread title. Oh, and if you read my entire first post, you'd notice that Vanilla Gorilla didn't just conjure Brewer out of nowhere--he was part of my suggested deal.

As for which role-player (Batum/Aldridge) is more valuable on a team with a Parker/Roy backcourt, I'll respectfully disagree with you on that.

 

[Idog1976]

Let's roll it back. Your first statement in reply to me was "Horrible. I'll keep Batum over Parker." The whole Batum/Aldridge thing is separate. Now, if you'd rather trade Aldridge straight up for Parker, then that's fine, but that still doesn't support your initial response, especially in light of the thread title. Oh, and if you read my entire first post, you'd notice that Vanilla Gorilla didn't just conjure Brewer out of nowhere--he was part of my suggested deal.

As for which role-player (Batum/Aldridge) is more valuable on a team with a Parker/Roy backcourt, I'll respectfully disagree with you on that.

I was wrong, about a lot of things. You win.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I was wrong, about a lot of things. You win.

Well that's no fun.