ESPN insider top10 SG for 2013-14 (Wes in 11-15 group)

[Draco]

Lillard was ranked #10 at PG the other day.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9531354/nba-projecting-top-10-shooting-guards-warp-2013-14

1 Wade
2 Harden
3 Manu
4 Kobe
5 Beal
6 Lou Williams
7 JR Smith
8 Danny Green
9 Monta Ellis
10 Kevin Martin

Next five: Vince Carter, Wesley Matthews, Tyreke Evans, Marcus Thornton, Eric Gordon

Like Smith, many of the more prolific 2-guards in the league are used in instant-offense bench roles. Three of our next five will fit that bill this season, perhaps more if Matthews is beaten out by C.J. McCollum in Portland. Carter was one of the league's top bench players for Dallas last season and, as old as he is, his athletic indicators are remarkably strong for a player with that much mileage. Matthews and Thornton are fairly steady in their production. Evans, on the other hand, is a wild card as he's never been used in a sixth-man role. Gordon is coming off a major injury, which makes his playing time forecast murky. More than that, his incessant physical woes have stunted his development arc, and Gordon could use a big season to improve his baseline as he nears his prime seasons.

Also notable: Klay Thompson, Joe Johnson, DeMar DeRozan

 

[Draco]

This is basically a WARP (wins above replacement player) rankings projection. #1 SG Wade's projected WARP is 11.8. #10 SG Kevin Martin is 4.7.

At PG Chris Paul was #1 with 15.9 while Damian was #10 at 7.8; that shows how much stronger the players are at PG than SG.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Danny green? Really?

 

[Draco]

Danny green? Really?

Yeah that surprised me too.

8. Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs
Projected 2013-14 WARP: 5.2
The top shooting guards are the guys who have the ball in their hands a lot and make plays for others as well as themselves. Green, though, is a perfect example of how you can still offer premium value by being uber-efficient and being a threat without the ball. As we saw in the latter part of the Finals, there is a ceiling to how much offense Green can create for himself, but teams have to account for him at all times. It doesn't hurt that he plays big minutes on one of the NBA's elite defensive teams.

 

[B-Roy]

Green has good stats only cause of San Antonio.

And Lou Williams at 6??? What?

 

[THE HCP]

GOD DAMN the SG position is fucking garbage!


Sent from my baller ass iPad FAMS!

 

[HailBlazers]

GOD DAMN the SG position is fucking garbage!


Sent from my baller ass iPad FAMS!

So is that list

 

[Nikolokolus]

So is that list

If you dump out a pile of garbage on the ground and sort it, does it really matter the order you put things in?

 

[donkiez]

Beal at 5? WTF?

 

[Draco]

Beal at 5? WTF?

Yeah I think this guy is sticking to the computer rankings too much. Manu ranked higher at SG than Parker was at PG, then guys like Beal with silly 3pt projection. Would be more interesting if they had 5 of their analysts do rankings than compile a list.

Bradley Beal, Washington Wizards
Projected 2013-14 WARP: 6.1
I love it when the youngbloods crack these lists, and ATH loves Beal. I'm not thrilled the system is forecasting Beal to knock down 43 percent of his 3s, even though that's a strength in his game. That category is the most variable on a player's stat line, and I distrust such bold predictions. However consider this: The only teenager to ever shoot a higher percentage from deep with an above-average usage rate was Kyrie Irving. Beal is off to a great start.

 

[tlongII]

Beal at 5? WTF?

Yep, that's stupid.

 

[blue9]

1 Wade - YES
2 Harden - YES
3 Manu - Not anymore
4 Kobe - Is he going to play in 13/14?
5 Beal - Really?
6 Lou Williams - Hmmm, didn't see PHI play enough. Does he play defense? I'll give this the benefit of the doubt.
7 JR Smith - Um, no.
8 Danny Green - Only while he's on the Spurs.
9 Monta Ellis - Hahahahaha
10 Kevin Martin - Hahahahaha

 

[Masbee]

Lillard was ranked #10 at PG the other day.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9531354/nba-projecting-top-10-shooting-guards-warp-2013-14

1 Wade
2 Harden
3 Manu
4 Kobe
5 Beal
6 Lou Williams
7 JR Smith
8 Danny Green
9 Monta Ellis
10 Kevin Martin

What a screwed up list.

 

[LameR]

It's all off of WARP, so no surprise there.

 

[Masbee]

Of players who were played mostly at SG last season;

those players I would take for Next Season Only:

James Harden - only because I don't trust Wade to stay healthy enough
Dwyane Wade

[If I had the choice, I would take these guys and play them out of position at Shooting Guard before taking any of the rest of the SG's in the NBA right now, that is how shallow the position is:

LeBron, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Westbrook, Chris Paul.]

*Kobe - I guess I have to list him. But, whatever, he might not play a full season. That is enough to diss him.

I guess that list is right. After you take Wade and Harden the drop off is HUUUUUUGE. Then you list the great names - unknown 2013 contributions of the old/injured Kobe and Manu.

After that the list doesn't really matter. There are any of a dozen guys you could pick to man the spot for a variety of reasons. You can easily make arguments for how some really young players are ready to bust out - Beal, MKG; how some gunner is going to have a career year jacking up shots; how some defenders or glue guys are the best fits for their teams - Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler, our own Wesley Matthews.