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TBpup said:
I do. And since all of those are available on the Net and in some cases, have tried to be banned or had access controlled, that is part of the overall equation and some of the bigger names in news on the Net. Of course there is a lot more that goes into it but as always, I appreciate those with a better understanding of what I think. :cheers:
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What you "think" Net Neutrality is doesn't matter in the slightest. There are the facts, and there are misconceptions of the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

Net Neutrality is all about money. It's about allowing internet service providers to control the flow of content. Currently the internet is unregulated. Every website is treated exactly the same. Or it is legally supposed to be. Some companies illegally control the flow of the internet. When Comcast throttles Netflix in your home, that's a violation. When TMobile allows people to play Pokemon Go without using data on their phones, that's a violation. They are not legally allowed to do that. Every website is supposed to be treated exactly the same in how it is provided to you.

If we allow ISPs to control which websites we can view and which ones we cannot view, that would be a huge blow to what the internet is, what it stands for, and what it can be in the future. Net Neutrality is the only thing keeping companies like Comcast from doing whatever the fuck they want with your internet connection. At this point, a free and unregulated internet is a basic human right. We cannot live without the internet in modern society. It is our access to the world, and the only reason why companies like Comcast want to do away with that freedom is because they're bleeding money from lost revenue on television, and they want to start monetizing every little thing they can get their hands on with the web.
 
And boom... this just came out.... right now.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/technology/fcc-net-neutrality/index.html

This is what happens when you put the fucking Associate General Council for Verizon in as the head of the FCC. How much you want to bet this dude passes a bunch of pro-ISP laws and then bails to go back to work for Verizon?

Ajit Pai, the Trump-appointed chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, laid out plans Wednesday to limit the agency's oversight of Internet service providers, potentially weakening enforcement of net neutrality.

The net neutrality rules, approved by the FCC in 2015, are intended to keep the Internet open and fair. The rules prevent Internet providers from playing favorites by deliberately speeding up or slowing down traffic from specific websites and apps.

As part of the 2015 process, the FCC voted to assert more regulatory control over Internet providers by reclassifying them as common carriers, similar totelephone services.

Pai has now issued a proposal to repeal that reclassification, called Title II, raising alarms among net neutrality advocates and throughout the tech industry.
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@Natebishop3 I'm very aware what it is. Just threw what I did out for fun. You remember 'fun' right? I have clients in government and many in media but thanks for more education. #priceless
 
TBpup said:
@Natebishop3 I'm very aware what it is. Just threw what I did out for fun. You remember 'fun' right? I have clients in government and many in media but thanks for more education. #priceless
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So you post a fundamentally wrong post about what Net Neutrality is, and then you get offended when I say that you're wrong? Cool story bro.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And boom... this just came out.... right now.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/technology/fcc-net-neutrality/index.html

This is what happens when you put the fucking Associate General Council for Verizon in as the head of the FCC. How much you want to bet this dude passes a bunch of pro-ISP laws and then bails to go back to work for Verizon?
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And this is why the head of the mother fucking FCC needs to be an elected by the state!
I remember ehen Bill Clinton chosen head of the FCC changed terrestrial radio market owmershup rules, thus allowing Clear Channel to buy up tons of radio stations. Then they were only competing against themselves. I was in the SFSU broadcast production school at the time. And suddenly, all the low paid internships for radio stations didn't fucking exist any more. The means of communications Americans are supposed to own are used to fuck us even more.
 
ripcityboy said:
And this is why the head of the mother fucking FCC needs to be an elected by the state!
I remember ehen Bill Clinton chosen head of the FCC changed terrestrial radio market owmershup rules, thus allowing Clear Channel to buy up tons of radio stations. Then they were only competing against themselves. I was in the SFSU broadcast production school at the time. And suddenly, all the low paid internships for radio stattoos didn't fucking exist any more. The means of communications Americans are supposed to own are used to fuck us even more.
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And yet, nobody does anything about it. We just take it up the ass.

BOHICA
 
ripcityboy said:
They are literally harvesting our organs using the politicians we pay to represent us and we do NOTHING about it. I stopped yelling about this a while ago because people are apathetic as hell.
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It's because they figured out that they can literally buy elections. We will never take back this country until we pass campaign finance reform. The people simply can't/won't outspend a corporation that wants to place an inside man into government. They shape the message, they leak misinformation, and they throw as much money as it takes to bury their opponents. It has been going on for god only knows how long. But not only do they control the politicians, they also control the media.

In other words.... we're fucked.
 
How about you guys start a new thread in the OT section about Net Neutrality.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
How about you guys start a new thread in the OT section about Net Neutrality.
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I'm sorry. I'll keep it to basketball. My libertarian socialist roots ate showing! I'll be in the back with Noam Chomsky!
 
ripcityboy said:
I'm sorry. I'll keep it to basketball. My libertarian socialist roots ate showing! I'll be in the back with Noam Chomsky!
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The thread isn't about basketball though. It's about ESPN laying people off. I think Net Neutrality is relevant because I think a repealing of NN will have a very real impact on companies like ESPN.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Speaking of the NFL, seems like ESPN hasn't even been hyping the draft that much and it's right around the corner...
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Starts tomorrow. I've been watching the NFL Network in the morning while getting ready so I'm not sure how much time ESPN has put into promoting the draft. It's incredibly popular though. They'll get their viewers.
 
Back to the evolution of news, is there really a need for national news sites like ESPN?

If we have a website like Reddit, which utilizes the content of other sites, local sites, then why do we need a company that employs talking heads who know very little about the details of each individual team?

If I go to RC2, or say r/NBA or r/ripcity, I'm going to find a collection of articles, interest pieces, original content, videos, etc about the NBA or the Blazers. In the past we needed a company like ESPN to bring us news from around the country because the internet didn't exist. Or it existed in a much smaller and/or limited capacity.

We have outgrown the need for national news sites.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Back to the evolution of news, is there really a need for national news sites like ESPN?

If we have a website like Reddit, which utilizes the content of other sites, local sites, then why do we need a company that employs talking heads who know very little about the details of each individual team?

If I go to RC2, or say r/NBA or r/ripcity, I'm going to find a collection of articles, interest pieces, original content, videos, etc about the NBA or the Blazers. In the past we needed a company like ESPN to bring us news from around the country because the internet didn't exist. Or it existed in a much smaller and/or limited capacity.

We have outgrown the need for national news sites.
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Does TNT count as national news? Because I tune in whenever possible to watch Inside the NBA
 
Natebishop3 said:
Back to the evolution of news, is there really a need for national news sites like ESPN?

If we have a website like Reddit, which utilizes the content of other sites, local sites, then why do we need a company that employs talking heads who know very little about the details of each individual team?

If I go to RC2, or say r/NBA or r/ripcity, I'm going to find a collection of articles, interest pieces, original content, videos, etc about the NBA or the Blazers. In the past we needed a company like ESPN to bring us news from around the country because the internet didn't exist. Or it existed in a much smaller and/or limited capacity.

We have outgrown the need for national news sites.
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There is more than just free porn on Reddit?
 
Net Neutrality is government picking Amazon, Google, and Netflix winners at the expense of Verizon, Frontier, etc.

They shouldn't pick winners, period.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How?

The internet should be a utility. It should be no different than phone lines, water, electricity, etc.
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Google, Netflix, etc., use 2/3 of all the bandwidth everywhere, yet pay for a tiny fraction of it.

Before these FCC net neutrality rules, they would be paying their fare share.

There always has been premium bandwidth that the big companies buy, and it should be that way. We pay one such big company for commercial service for this site, as it should be.

ESPN.com is served from some big number of servers and from all over the internet to assure users get WWW pages served in spite of outages elsewhere in the world/country. ESPN is fast because it is served for you from a server as close as possible to your internet connection, even on your ISP's local network. It is served for me fast because it is served from a server as close as possible to me.

You want video data to be prioritized over other data so your streaming video doesn't bog/buffer/skip. You can wait a few extra seconds for your game to download to your XBox and not even realize it's not 100% as fast as possibly could be. That's not "treating all traffic equally," and it shouldn't be required to treat all traffic equally.

Finally, the FTC regulates the internet, including any net neutrality type rules. I don't think it's right for the FCC to regulate communications. It's a violation of free speech and property rights.
 
To me, ESPN is a lot like CSNNW. The only time I watch it is when there is a Blazer game on it. Can't honestly think of the last time I watched ESPN otherwise.
 
santeesioux said:
I mean, does anybody even really watch any espn programming that isn't actual live sports? I can't think of the last time I actually watched one of their talking/arguing programs, maybe in a dentist waiting room?
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I still love PTI and try to watch when I can.
 
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