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[e_blazer]

I don't believe the partial MLE and Cap Room Exception are. Both are designed for teams with cap space so it'd make no sense to count them as cap space.

From the CBA FAQ page:

"If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1"

 

[Pinwheel1]

No.

Now that Kobe is gone the Lakets will start to attract more talent. Hell, Simmons already said he wants to go there. Unless I missed it, I don't hear that about Portland.

Dallas has no state sales tax. Given the choice, they win.

Washington is where KD is from, so.....

Boston is probably at worst even with us.

Philly is clown town

I have not heard any players saying they want to go to LA lately. Simmons does not really count because he is not a FA and the only other option for him would be .........Philly.

Not sure about Washington, but there was mention yesterday on O-Live that they would have problems resigning Beal if they landed Durant.

I agree that you can never count out Dallas and Cuban, but I still don't think KD is a player who worries about tax benefits.
He saves enough money with his wardrobe.

I can see Boston being an option if they trade some of their picks for a solid vet.

The Blazers......I just don't see it. He seems to carry a grudge that we did not pick him over Oden. Plus does he want to sign with someone in OKC's division? I doubt it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I don't believe the partial MLE and Cap Room Exception are. Both are designed for teams with cap space so it'd make no sense to count them as cap space.

Room (mid-level) exception is the only one that you keep with cap space.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

 

[e_blazer]

Room (mid-level) exception is the only one that you keep with cap space.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

But it's still added to team salary, unless renounced.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

But it's still added to team salary, unless renounced.

I'm sorry, that is incorrect. As you posted above, "If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1"

Those exceptions have to be renounced to use cap space. The Room Exception is the exception to the rule about exceptions.

ROOM MID-LEVEL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only to teams that drop far enough below the cap to use cap room, and lose their Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level and Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions (see question number 26). This exception cannot be used if the team has already used the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions. This exception becomes available once the team salary drops far enough that the team loses its other exceptions, and expires following the last day of the regular season.

 

[e_blazer]

I'm sorry, that is incorrect. As you posted above, "If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1"

Those exceptions have to be renounced to use cap space. The Room Exception is the exception to the rule about exceptions.

ROOM MID-LEVEL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only to teams that drop far enough below the cap to use cap room, and lose their Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level and Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions (see question number 26). This exception cannot be used if the team has already used the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions. This exception becomes available once the team salary drops far enough that the team loses its other exceptions, and expires following the last day of the regular season.

Hmm. I guess you're right, but his whole discussion on this topic leaves a lot to be desired. In his question number 26 response he says:

"If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1.

Teams have the option to renounce their exceptions in order to reclaim their cap room."

I guess he saying in 25 that a team below the cap only gets the room MLE if it falls far enough under the cap that the addition of the other exceptions wouldn't put team salary over the cap (in which case the team loses those exceptions). Since the room MLE is not listed in 26, I think you're correct that it's not counted against team salary.

 

[magnifier661]

Here's how the rankings came out:

1. Golden State Warriors
2. Cleveland Cavaliers
3. Boston Celtics
4. San Antonio Spurs
5. Oklahoma City Thunder
6. Miami Heat
7. Utah Jazz
8. Portland Trail Blazers
9. Minnesota Timberwolves
10. Los Angeles Clippers
11. Houston Rockets
12. Washington Wizards
13. Orlando Magic
14. Indiana Pacers
15. Atlanta Hawks
16. Chicago Bulls
17. Toronto Raptors
18. New Orleans Pelicans
19. Philadelphia 76ers
20. Denver Nuggets
21. Detroit Pistons
22. Dallas Mavericks
23. Charlotte Hornets
24. Los Angeles Lakers
25. Milwaukee Bucks
26. Memphis Grizzlies
27. Phoenix Suns
28. New York Knicks
29. Sacramento Kings
30. Brooklyn Nets

Amazing to see LA and NY (and BK) this low.

No way Utah is higher than Portland! As for Miami... Let's see if they keep Whiteside. I heard they can't offer him max, so I'm sure he will bolt.

 

[e_blazer]

No way Utah is higher than Portland! As for Miami... Let's see if they keep Whiteside. I heard they can't offer him max, so I'm sure he will bolt.

Well, lookie what the Trump twitter campaign spit out.

 

[THE HCP]

Well, lookie what the Trump twitter campaign spit out.

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[magnifier661]

Well, lookie what the Trump twitter campaign spit out.

Hahaha, Just came in for a visit.

 

[e_blazer]

Hahaha, Just came in for a visit.

Kind of a drive-by Trumping?

 

[BonesJones]

Room (mid-level) exception is the only one that you keep with cap space.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

That's the one I was referring too

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That's the one I was referring too

Based on your pluralistic syntax, it sounded like you were suggesting there were two separate exceptions--room and partial-MLE--that under-the-cap teams get to keep. Just wanted to clarify that they're one-and-the-same.

 

[BonesJones]

Based on your pluralistic syntax, it sounded like you were suggesting there were two separate exceptions--room and partial-MLE--that under-the-cap teams get to keep. Just wanted to clarify that they're one-and-the-same.

I thought there was the cap room MLE and then a Cap Room Exception. Guess they're the same thing.

 

[magnifier661]

Kind of a drive-by Trumping?

Kinda... Haha

 

[Hobbesarable]

Hahaha, Just came in for a visit.

Hey bro! Make sure you visit more often.

 

[stampedehero]

Here's how the rankings came out:

1. Golden State Warriors
2. Cleveland Cavaliers
3. Boston Celtics
4. San Antonio Spurs
5. Oklahoma City Thunder
6. Miami Heat
7. Utah Jazz
8. Portland Trail Blazers
9. Minnesota Timberwolves
10. Los Angeles Clippers
11. Houston Rockets
12. Washington Wizards
13. Orlando Magic
14. Indiana Pacers
15. Atlanta Hawks
16. Chicago Bulls
17. Toronto Raptors
18. New Orleans Pelicans
19. Philadelphia 76ers
20. Denver Nuggets
21. Detroit Pistons
22. Dallas Mavericks
23. Charlotte Hornets
24. Los Angeles Lakers
25. Milwaukee Bucks
26. Memphis Grizzlies
27. Phoenix Suns
28. New York Knicks
29. Sacramento Kings
30. Brooklyn Nets

Amazing to see LA and NY (and BK) this low.

> I'm surprised. I thought the Sixers would be last