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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You lost me at Larry Hughes. That trade would make the baby Jesus cry.</div>

That's my least favorite of the trade proposals. I just happen to like Shannon Brown and think they will have a decent first in the teens. I'm just afraid of what Vince will be like in December 09 when he still has 2.5 years left on his contract.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New Jersey Nets

Incoming Players
Photo: Chuck Hayes
Chuck Hayes
Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 3.4 REB: 6.1 AST: 0.8 PER: 11.81
Photo: Kirk Snyder
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.2 REB: 1.8 AST: 1.2 PER: 16.47
Photo: Shane Battier
Shane Battier
Salary: $5,883,600 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.7 PER: 9.55
Photo: Steve Francis
Steve Francis
Salary: $2,439,333 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 2.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 9.42

Outgoing Players: Vince Carter
Houston Rockets

Incoming Players
Photo: Vince Carter
Vince Carter
Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 21.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 19.84

Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier, Steve Francis</div>

id do this
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 22 2007, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've never understood how some people care more about a player than the team. Ridiculous. It's a team sport, not a one man show.</div>


yes but it depends who's on the said TEAM.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nets trade: Vince Carter, Malik Allen

Magic trade: Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans, J J Redick, Pat Garrity</div>
thats a horrible deal, what exctly would benefit us in this?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nets trade: Vince Carter, Malik Allen

Magic trade: Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans, J J Redick, Pat Garrity</div>
thats a horrible deal, what exctly would benefit us in this?
</div>

expiring contracts + get a young player in redick. who knows, he might turn it around and fulfill his potential as a shooter. Oh, and you move out Malik, which would mean Frank can't play him to steal minutes from Sean and Josh ever again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nets trade: Vince Carter, Malik Allen

Magic trade: Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans, J J Redick, Pat Garrity</div>
thats a horrible deal, what exctly would benefit us in this?
</div>

expiring contracts + get a young player in redick. who knows, he might turn it around and fulfill his potential as a shooter. Oh, and you move out Malik, which would mean Frank can't play him to steal minutes from Sean and Josh ever again.
</div>

There isn't enough money on the contracts expiring, Arroyo and Garrity only count for around 8 million or so in expiring contracts which isn't enough for us to be able to do something. Reddick and Bogans are nice players but there not even potentially starters let alone stars.
 
This is funny. I wanna see a trade happen involving the Nets. Something relatively important. All this trade talk is getting me excited, and if no trade ends up happening, I'll be pissed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Dec 22 2007, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Dec 22 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nets trade: Vince Carter, Malik Allen

Magic trade: Carlos Arroyo, Keith Bogans, J J Redick, Pat Garrity</div>
thats a horrible deal, what exctly would benefit us in this?
</div>

expiring contracts + get a young player in redick. who knows, he might turn it around and fulfill his potential as a shooter. Oh, and you move out Malik, which would mean Frank can't play him to steal minutes from Sean and Josh ever again.
</div>

There isn't enough money on the contracts expiring, Arroyo and Garrity only count for around 8 million or so in expiring contracts which isn't enough for us to be able to do something. Reddick and Bogans are nice players but there not even potentially starters let alone stars.
</div>

Bogans surely is a starter, and a good one at that. He's the Magic's best perimeter defender and a good shooter to boot! I'd be glad to have him on the Nets, but that trade just doesn't look good in my opinion.
 
WHAT ABOOUT THIS!!!!


VC to the Clips for Maggette and Tim Thomas????


We get maggette, a pure scoring slasher who doesnt need the ball to be effective and can run and tim thomas, a shooter who can spread the floor with Boki
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Dec 22 2007, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New Jersey Nets

Incoming Players
Photo: Chuck Hayes
Chuck Hayes
Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 3.4 REB: 6.1 AST: 0.8 PER: 11.81
Photo: Kirk Snyder
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.2 REB: 1.8 AST: 1.2 PER: 16.47
Photo: Shane Battier
Shane Battier
Salary: $5,883,600 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.7 PER: 9.55
Photo: Steve Francis
Steve Francis
Salary: $2,439,333 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 2.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 9.42

Outgoing Players: Vince Carter
Houston Rockets

Incoming Players
Photo: Vince Carter
Vince Carter
Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 21.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 19.84

Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier, Steve Francis</div>
Bad trade.Why would u take shane battier when you already have rj on ur team? Francis?

</div>

1) We get rid of Carter's contract.

2) Chuck Hayes, Shane Battier are cheap building blocks that will positively contribute while the Nets rebuild.

3) Steve Francis will but cut ASAP to do what he wants, Cleveland, Clippers, back to Houston w/e.

4) With Battier this gives the Nets more flexibility to trade RJ, Battier is not as good as Jefferson but he is a lot cheaper and a good role player.

5) This will push JKidd out the door faster.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Dec 22 2007, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New Jersey Nets

Incoming Players
Photo: Chuck Hayes
Chuck Hayes
Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 3.4 REB: 6.1 AST: 0.8 PER: 11.81
Photo: Kirk Snyder
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.2 REB: 1.8 AST: 1.2 PER: 16.47
Photo: Shane Battier
Shane Battier
Salary: $5,883,600 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.7 PER: 9.55
Photo: Steve Francis
Steve Francis
Salary: $2,439,333 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 2.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 9.42

Outgoing Players: Vince Carter
Houston Rockets

Incoming Players
Photo: Vince Carter
Vince Carter
Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 21.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 19.84

Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier, Steve Francis</div>
Bad trade.Why would u take shane battier when you already have rj on ur team? Francis?

</div>

1) We get rid of Carter's contract.

2) Chuck Hayes, Shane Battier are cheap building blocks that will positively contribute while the Nets rebuild.

3) Steve Francis will but cut ASAP to do what he wants, Cleveland, Clippers, back to Houston w/e.

4) With Battier this gives the Nets more flexibility to trade RJ, Battier is not as good as Jefferson but he is a lot cheaper and a good role player.

5) This will push JKidd out the door faster.
</div>
Gotcha now.You wanna rebuild,huh?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Dec 22 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Dec 22 2007, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>New Jersey Nets

Incoming Players
Photo: Chuck Hayes
Chuck Hayes
Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 3.4 REB: 6.1 AST: 0.8 PER: 11.81
Photo: Kirk Snyder
Kirk Snyder
Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.2 REB: 1.8 AST: 1.2 PER: 16.47
Photo: Shane Battier
Shane Battier
Salary: $5,883,600 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.7 PER: 9.55
Photo: Steve Francis
Steve Francis
Salary: $2,439,333 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 2.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 9.42

Outgoing Players: Vince Carter
Houston Rockets

Incoming Players
Photo: Vince Carter
Vince Carter
Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 21.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 19.84

Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Kirk Snyder, Shane Battier, Steve Francis</div>
Bad trade.Why would u take shane battier when you already have rj on ur team? Francis?

</div>

1) We get rid of Carter's contract.

2) Chuck Hayes, Shane Battier are cheap building blocks that will positively contribute while the Nets rebuild.

3) Steve Francis will but cut ASAP to do what he wants, Cleveland, Clippers, back to Houston w/e.

4) With Battier this gives the Nets more flexibility to trade RJ, Battier is not as good as Jefferson but he is a lot cheaper and a good role player.

5) This will push JKidd out the door faster.
</div>
Gotcha now.You wanna rebuild,huh?
</div>

I'm done with these "players", there are only 3 or 4 guys on our entire roster that I want to keep and only Sean is close to untouchable IMO.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaxaMillion711 @ Dec 22 2007, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Dec 22 2007, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As long as they send him to a good team, I don't give a f**k. Wherever vince goes, that's the team i'll be watching.</div>

ditto. I will be watching for sure as well. This is very very exciting news. I hope he leaves

</div>


I must admit that I also hope they trade him, preferably to a good team that he can make better. Vince can score at will(when he feels like it) and create for all his teammates. I will be watching that team. Someone used the trade machine, and pulled off a VC for giricek,okur, and the other collins. I'd love that deal. VC to UTAH.....sweet!! But I will also be cheering for the nets, just not as much as wherever VC goes.
 
what are some possible 3 (or more) team trades that could work?

i'm all for gettting rid of VC. NJ needs a winner, not a wuss like him. honestly... how many times has this guy cried because he lost a contact lens?
 
And how many times has he hit game winning shots?
Honestly, I dislike him, but don't call him a wuss.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (seanwilliams @ Dec 25 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what are some possible 3 (or more) team trades that could work?

i'm all for gettting rid of VC. NJ needs a winner, not a wuss like him. honestly... how many times has this guy cried because he lost a contact lens?</div>

...because he lost a contact lens, that makes him a wuss? Idk about that, haha. Hard to play good basketball when you can't see well.

Although I will agree with you if you are implying that lately, he's been wanting to take less contact.

Btw, Welcome to S2, sean! I'm sure you'll fit right in here, as there are many fans of Williams on this board. If you need anything, give me a PM!
 
mark jackson disagrees with yall then. lately, vince has been driving a lot and his last 7 games hes what..26 6 5 45% and 56% 3pt? I think if we get rid of RJ, vince will have more of a load on his back and he will go back to 27ppg like he was in 04-05.

RJ had has chance to show that the nets can win without Carter. he had 5 straight games. and he got an F in every one of them. Especially missing the LAYUP AT POINT BLANK RANGE to beat the Heat. I wanted to like RJ but man...he just messes up way to often.

But if you all still think Vince is a wuss for playing on that bad ankle and hitting 2 game winners in a row, then yeah, trade him. I am all for that. This team is too in Love with RJ for its own good.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaxaMillion711 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>mark jackson disagrees with yall then. lately, vince has been driving a lot and his last 7 games hes what..26 6 5 45% and 56% 3pt? I think if we get rid of RJ, vince will have more of a load on his back and he will go back to 27ppg like he was in 04-05.

RJ had has chance to show that the nets can win without Carter. he had 5 straight games. and he got an F in every one of them. Especially missing the LAYUP AT POINT BLANK RANGE to beat the Heat. I wanted to like RJ but man...he just messes up way to often.

But if you all still think Vince is a wuss for playing on that bad ankle and hitting 2 game winners in a row, then yeah, trade him. I am all for that. This team is too in Love with RJ for its own good.</div>
RJ who? What happened 2 him, when Vince was sidelined? Vince is the heart and soul of the NJ Nets,his resume speaks 4 itself.
 
not even the heart of the highlight reels? dang....

and so the battle between vc haters and vc fans rages on....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 26 2007, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not a VC hater, but to call him the heart and soul of the Nets is ri-dirk-ulous</div>

It would explain their current record atleast.
 
i used to love VC. when he came to NJ, I was going insane. his first season in NJ was remarkable (his highlight reel for that year was awesome). i lost all respect for him last year, in the playoffs when he held and lost the ball with 7 seconds on the clock. that was the turning point for me. to say vince is the heart of NJ is like saying A-ROD is a Yankee. Don't be blinded by his high stats, look beneath the individual numbers and see how many playoff games he's won with whatever team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaxaMillion711 @ Dec 26 2007, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>mark jackson disagrees with yall then. lately, vince has been driving a lot and his last 7 games hes what..26 6 5 45% and 56% 3pt? I think if we get rid of RJ, vince will have more of a load on his back and he will go back to 27ppg like he was in 04-05.

RJ had has chance to show that the nets can win without Carter. he had 5 straight games. and he got an F in every one of them. Especially missing the LAYUP AT POINT BLANK RANGE to beat the Heat. I wanted to like RJ but man...he just messes up way to often.

But if you all still think Vince is a wuss for playing on that bad ankle and hitting 2 game winners in a row, then yeah, trade him. I am all for that. This team is too in Love with RJ for its own good.</div>
This is a thread about Vince...why bring up RJ?

Vince has been chucking three's lately. But, he's also been making alot of them.
 
where was vince in the playoffs? shut down by bum ass eric snow

where was rj in the playoffs?

rjyg3.jpg
 
TheKidHypo,it wasn't like RJ was anywhere to be seen in the Cavaliers series.And that game winner against the Raptors,thats it.Nothing else.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheKidHypno @ Dec 27 2007, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>where was vince in the playoffs? shut down by bum ass eric snow

where was rj in the playoffs?

rjyg3.jpg
</div>

how nice of you to show a picture of RJ vs the raptors and imply that its him vs cavs....

I'll tell ya where vince was in the playoffs. He raped the Raptors in game 3 and in game 4, he raped the dead body of them again. and in game 5, he had 30pts and he shut down the crowd in the 4th. and in game 6, he did very well cept for a bad shot at the end that nearly cost the game, but RJ was there. Its called a team. teammates help out.

and yes...WE ALL KNOW he didnt do good vs cleveland. thanks for reminding us! You want a freakin medal?

hehe.....nice try though
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (seanwilliams @ Dec 26 2007, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i used to love VC. when he came to NJ, I was going insane. his first season in NJ was remarkable (his highlight reel for that year was awesome). i lost all respect for him last year, in the playoffs when he held and lost the ball with 7 seconds on the clock. that was the turning point for me. to say vince is the heart of NJ is like saying A-ROD is a Yankee. Don't be blinded by his high stats, look beneath the individual numbers and see how many playoff games he's won with whatever team.</div>
You hate the man because he lost the ball in the final seconds of the game? Well sh!t, I wouldn't want you as a fan.
 
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