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illmatic99 said:
What are the max minutes Nurk can play without getting in foul trouble or hurt? I don't see him being able to consistently play over 25-30 mpg, so there might be 18-23 backup minutes available at C.

I don't want Eubanks playing that much. Watford is fine, but he's short as hell.
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A lot of backup Cs are, Watford should be ok getting 8-10 minutes there.
 
julius said:
Really??

They actually have players who play defense this year.

Roco sucked. Powell was woefully out of position. their bench was a non factor past Simons and Little.

I'd take this year's starting 5 over last years starting 5 every day of the week. And I'd take this year's bench over last year's bench too.

A bench of Hart, Little, Payton, Eubanks and Winslow (and throw in Sharpe as an unknown) is much better than Little, Simons, McLemore, Elleby, Injury Nance Jr and Zeller.
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Lol if you think Powell was woefully out of position, wait until you get a load of GP2 playing SF! Josh Hart is also in the ballpark of Norman Powell that we will be asking to play SF.

Josh Hart 6'4 height, 8'3.5 standing reach
Norman Powell 6'3 height 8'6.5 standing reach

If Hart and Little are on your bench, who starts at the 3?
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Lol if you think Powell was woefully out of position, wait until you get a load of GP2 playing SF! Josh Hart is also in the ballpark of Norman Powell that we will be asking to play SF.

Josh Hart 6'4 height, 8'3.5 standing reach
Norman Powell 6'3 height 8'6.5 standing reach

If Hart and Little are on your bench, who starts at the 3?
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i agree with you, but payton did play next to Curry and Poole quite a bit in the finals. he managed it somewhat, but i just hate being severely undersized again. we saw how big of a disadvantage it is when done for a prolonged period of time. insanity to hope for different results.
 
Hart has played PF at times. (although I would not want to see that) But
I am sure he can handle the 3.
Little at 220 and a 7'2" wing span has the size. Winslow can also play the 3
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Hart has played PF at times. I am sure he can handle the 3.
Little at 220 and a 7'2" wing span has the size. Winslow can also play the 3
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Saying someone can play out of position is different than it being their most efficient spot or winning basketball. We don't have an all star team like the Warriors to get past these things.
 
illmatic99 said:
and Nas, but still not ideal.
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Well, you usually play small ball to clear the space for your slashers and because you have good 3 point shooters, so offensive rebounding is less of an issue. On defense, you play small ball with the idea that you can get in the passing lanes / put pressure on the ball and hope that your guys, even when they play small, can box out for rebounds. So, offensively, if the Blazers play small ball, I am not too worried. Defensively, they certainly addressed some of the defense with Hart / GP2 - it will be interesting to see if their size is an issue for defensive rebounding or not, but I do not expect the Blazers to do it for more than 10-12 minutes a game, so not that worried about it, honestly. I suspect Nurk will play somewhere around 30 minutes a game, you will get Eubanks for another 10-12 - so the rest will be small ball and some of it will be with Grant at the 5, especially if they need mostly offense, we might see Grant + Watford in a small ball scenario if we need more defense.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Saying someone can play out of position is different than it being their most efficient spot or winning basketball. We don't have an all star team like the Warriors to get past these things.
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I am not convinced that SF isn't Hart's best position. Yes I would prefer him at guard just because of his size, but is that really what he is best suited for? It all depends on who else is on the court with him and who the opponent is.
 
Labinot41 said:
roster sucks tbh. You can not convince that this roster is better (on paper) than the roster we went into opening night last year
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Covington
Powell
CJ
Nance

Or

Sharpe
Jerami Grant
Payton 2
Hart

group 2 is better. Again. People livid over defense for literally years. The team scoring 115 and losing nightly. Roco was hugely overrated. Powell just never was a fit here. CJ 90% hated. Nance gets hurt. All good players but who cares. You fill in with a huge upside rookie, Grant, Hart and Payton are are seasoned pros who play both ends of the floor. Also, you have a year older Simons playing with a healthy Lillard, and a presumably healthy Little. It’s not the dream team but it is better. Oh and it’s July 1.
 
Players with wide wing span and high standing reach is fine if they use it to there advantage but most players don't. So those measurements kind over rated.
 
Eubanks was alright signing he show last he belongs in the lead as at least a backup. Roster starting to shape up I don't think Joe is done I believe there will be trade down the line before the season starts.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am not convinced that SF isn't Hart's best position. Yes I would prefer him at guard just because of his size, but is that really what he is best suited for? It all depends on who else is on the court with him and who the opponent is.
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He is undersized in height and standing reach at SF. More than Norman Powell was.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
He is undersized in height and standing reach at SF. More than Norman Powell was.
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I don't care about that on the perimeter. He can play D. If he was a poor defender and he was short then it would be a problem. But
he can D up against most SFs. The ones he can't... then you bring in Little or Winslow or Grant. Not worried about SF, I am worried about PF.
 
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B-Roy said:
I don’t give as much of a shit about standing reach because Hart and GP2 can actually get through a screen. Tired of CJ and Norm dying on every screen.
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Yep. I used to cringe watching them last year when all the other team had to do is walk by each other and we would automatically switch. 0% effort to get through the screen. It created immediate mismatches with no effort.
 
calvin natt said:
Covington
Powell
CJ
Nance

Or

Sharpe
Jerami Grant
Payton 2
Hart

group 2 is better. Again. People livid over defense for literally years. The team scoring 115 and losing nightly. Roco was hugely overrated. Powell just never was a fit here. CJ 90% hated. Nance gets hurt. All good players but who cares. You fill in with a huge upside rookie, Grant, Hart and Payton are are seasoned pros who play both ends of the floor. Also, you have a year older Simons playing with a healthy Lillard, and a presumably healthy Little. It’s not the dream team but it is better. Oh and it’s July 1.
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Stated this in another thread minutes ago … probably not so well. And it’s July 1. And the Grant trade has wiggle room … and …

Eubanks is fine as a 3rd string Center. Good that he returns. And Nurkic’s back-up is … ?
 
calvin natt said:
Covington
Powell
CJ
Nance

Or

Sharpe
Jerami Grant
Payton 2
Hart

group 2 is better. Again. People livid over defense for literally years. The team scoring 115 and losing nightly. Roco was hugely overrated. Powell just never was a fit here. CJ 90% hated. Nance gets hurt. All good players but who cares. You fill in with a huge upside rookie, Grant, Hart and Payton are are seasoned pros who play both ends of the floor. Also, you have a year older Simons playing with a healthy Lillard, and a presumably healthy Little. It’s not the dream team but it is better. Oh and it’s July 1.
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We have 14 guys on the roster and almost hard capped, the offseason is over.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Stated this in another thread minutes ago … probably not so well. And it’s July 1. And the Grant trade has wiggle room … and …

Eubanks is fine as a 3rd string Center. Good that he returns. And Nurkic’s back-up is … ?
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Whats wrong with Eubanks as Nurks backup?
 
Bingo Bango said:
Yep. If the Blazers are done, this is a little depressing. They can probably make the playoffs, but this is not a title-contending team.
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Please, lay the framework of how you would have done that, with the assets and within the cap.

Realistically. Now go.
 
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Eubanks should not get rotation minutes, dude is a 3rd string Center at best. Another massive failure by dumm ass Cronin
 
Happy to see Eubanks backing up Nurk...he runs the floor, scrambles for loose balls and has a sweet hook shot. All this negative complaining is starting to seem habitual around the forum...if you don't see us as better and deeper right now than we have been and better defensively, I don't know what to say...Joe is doing a great job. Don't turn him into your next Meyers Leonard complaint punching bag already.
 
riverman said:
Happy to see Eubanks backing up Nurk...he runs the floor, scrambles for loose balls and has a sweet hook shot. All this negative complaining is starting to seem habitual around the forum...if you don't see us as better and deeper right now than we have been and better defensively, I don't know what to say...Joe is doing a great job. Don't turn him into your next Meyers Leonard complaint punching bag already.
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Joe is actually doing exactly opposite of what he said. He talked about creating flexibilty with those Deadline trade and how much of an asset Bledsoe or Ingles will be, or talking about balancing the roster with Wings and become more athletic. In reality we got even smaller, have more guards than ever and have to play 6.5 Hart at SF and 6.5 Little at Backup PF because we have no options. Cronin is a terrible GM
 
Labinot41 said:
Joe is actually doing exactly opposite of what he said. He talked about creating flexibilty with those Deadline trade and how much of an asset Bledsoe or Ingles will be, or talking about balancing the roster with Wings and become more athletic. In reality we got even smaller, have more guards than ever and have to play 6.5 Hart at SF and 6.5 Little at Backup PF because we have no options. Cronin is a terrible GM
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His job the intangibles change from minute to minute....in reality we got way better defensively and Joe Ingles chose his own future. When OG was not available...Joe moved on. Winslow can guard SFs no problem...so can Nas and Watford and Hart and Payton..Greg Brown is on the team as well....we'll see what Johnson, Didi or Sharpe can do but as is...I like the dawgs Joe brought in from Hart to Winslow to Payton....those are some defensive dudes.
 
To everyone poo-poo ing all the moves (to which there are several)

Please: quote this post and lay out realistically how you have done this, again, within the cap and within the assets?

And furthermore, make it realistic for other teams. No outrageous deals.

I'll be patiently waiting.


Oh, and the reason I can't answer my own question is because I'm too stupid to understand all the minute details it takes to make this work. And also, my only real beef with the offseason is Sharpe, and I'm still willing to be patient.

But, now now's go ahead. I look forward to all the breakdowns of the offseason it should have been. I hope to learn a lot too!
 
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Strenuus said:
To everyone poo-poo ing all the moves (to which there are several)

Please: quote this post and lay out realistically how you have done this, again, within the cap and within the assets?

And furthermore, make it realistic for other teams. No outrageous deals.

I'll be patiently waiting.


Oh, and the reason I can't answer my own question is because I'm too stupid to understand all the minute details it takes to make this work. And also, my only real beef with the offseason is Sharpe, and I'm still willing to be patient.

But, now now's go ahead. I look forward to all the breakdowns of the offseason it should have been. I hope to learn a lot too!
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I wouldn't lie to the Fans and create hope when i actually don't have a plan
 
Labinot41 said:
I wouldn't lie to the Fans and create hope when i actually don't have a plan
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good to hear....Joe wouldn't either...projections are projections and you can only do the deals that other teams agree to. I think Joe has a great plan...he sure didn't "lie" to me about it...he tried to get OG...he looked into Collins....he was smart enough to skip on Bridges....if you think an interim GM saying he wants to do this and this is lying, that's on you...he's projecting. He also said it may take more than one season to build the team he wants to build at the same conference....enjoy the process....Joe's doing great
 
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