Evan Turner - backup PG?

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Sounds like we're going to have a 3 man rotation at guard. Stotts has implied that Turner will be our backup PG. He can certainly improve the defense there. And that makes sense in that it would open up playing time for Charlotte and Crabbe.
 
He's no PG, a point forward maybe. Playing him as the only PG would simply not work. He would have to bring the ball up-court, etc, not gonna work
 
Blazer4ever said:
He's no PG, a point forward maybe. Playing him as the only PG would simply not work. He would have to bring the ball up-court, etc, not gonna work
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Not sure how much Turner you've seen, but he's very comfortable bringing the ball up floor. Besides his time in the NBA, he was a PG for part of his HS career and was the primary ball handler throughout his time at Ohio State.

His had more experience as a lead guard than CJ even...
 
Good to hear. A 3 guard rotation is what I have been listing in all my projected rotation breakdowns. Essentially ET will be playing SG with either Dame or CJ, but will help run the offense. Instead of calling him a point forward like some do with Nic, just call him a point SG.

This makes the most sense as it allows Moe to start at SF, with Crabbe backing him up.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Good to hear. A 3 guard rotation is what I have been listing in all my projected rotation breakdowns. Essentially ET will be playing SG with either Dame or CJ, but will help run the offense. Instead of calling him a point forward like some do with Nic, just call him a point SG.

This makes the most sense as it allows Moe to start at SF, with Crabbe backing him up.
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I had thought Turner would start at the 3 leave early and come back in as the backup point guard...then CJ would also take some time at PG.

But, playing him in a 3 guard rotation, with Hark and Crabbe at the 3 makes sense too...I have a hunch we will be seeing Stotts try both of these options
 
"Turner, despite his 6-foot-7 frame, has a history of playing point guard. He said he didn't hit his first big growth spurt until he sprouted five inches as a freshman in high school, so he grew up playing point guard. He often ran the offense in college at Ohio State and served as the primary backup ball-handler for the Boston Celtics last season. Regardless of whether he starts or comes off the bench, Turner will handle the ball plenty; Stotts said Turner will share backup point guard duties with McCollum."

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i..._harkless_evan_turner.html#incart_river_index
 
Not having a backup PG is our biggest weakness. CJ and Turner is not enough PG skills and if both play together everytime Dame sits it minimizes his playing time alongside them. Instead of trying to fit players to unnatural positions based on what they did or didn't do in HS, Stotts should give the backup minutes to Napier at least until we bring someone better who's a natural PG. Making all these adjustments trying to manage the minutes instead of coaching the game is exactly why Stotts is a weak coach
 
Blazer4ever said:
Not having a backup PG is our biggest weakness. CJ and Turner is not enough PG skills and if both play together everytime Dame sits it minimizes his playing time alongside them. Instead of trying to fit players to unnatural positions based on what they did or didn't do in HS, Stotts should give the backup minutes to Napier at least until we bring someone better who's a natural PG. Making all these adjustments trying to manage the minutes instead of coaching the game is exactly why Stotts is a weak coach
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Huh? Did you read anybodys' posts? PG IS a natural position for him. People want to make him a small forward because of his size. That's trying to make him something he is not.
 
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...n-turner-will-see-time-as-backup-point-guard/

If Stotts' handling of the point guard situation last season is any indication, the Blazers likely won't lean on Turner very often as a third-string option at the position, as Damian Lillard and McCollum frequently covered all 48 minutes at the position on most nights. Instead, Stotts' comfort with Turner at the position is perhaps more troubling to Shabazz Napier, whose roster spot could be in jeopardy if the Trail Blazers decide to prioritize keeping an extra big man rather than another point guard who wouldn't normally factor into the rotation. Turner is still expected to see most of his time at small forward during the upcoming season, but will have to hold off Allen Crabbe for starting honors.
 
Outside of a failed attempt with Paul George, he's never played with players as good as Dame and CJ. He's gonna flourish while playing with them.

lol:


Dame:
"It's refreshing," Lillard said. "It becomes harder to guard. The defense can focus less on me. I'm not standing at the top of the key with all eyes on me, getting ready to (think about) how they're going to stop me. I'm looking forward to it. Tuesday, we were on a team, and when (Turner) handled it, he could make tough passes, he could make the cross-court pass, off the dribble, both hands. It's going to be real beneficial for myself and CJ."
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http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...an_turner.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index
 
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I am a huge fan of this signing. I am looking forward to watching him play. He's a really good fit in a number of ways. I just wish his 3pt shooting was to be feared.
 
Denny Crane said:
I am a huge fan of this signing. I am looking forward to watching him play. He's a really good fit in a number of ways. I just wish his 3pt shooting was to be feared.
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ET with a 36% 3pt shot is essentially Nic Batum.

Then he wouldn't be an 18mil/yr player, but a 25 mil/yr player. I think this is gonna work-- I'm more ok with paying ET that kinda money than paying Crabbe the same.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Not having a backup PG is our biggest weakness. CJ and Turner is not enough PG skills and if both play together everytime Dame sits it minimizes his playing time alongside them. Instead of trying to fit players to unnatural positions based on what they did or didn't do in HS, Stotts should give the backup minutes to Napier at least until we bring someone better who's a natural PG. Making all these adjustments trying to manage the minutes instead of coaching the game is exactly why Stotts is a weak coach
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What is it with you and bench scrubs?
 
illmatic99 said:
ET with a 36% 3pt shot is essentially Nic Batum.

Then he wouldn't be an 18mil/yr player, but a 25 mil/yr player. I think this is gonna work-- I'm more ok with paying ET that kinda money than paying Crabbe the same.
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Crabbe seems to have grown as a player quite nicely for a 2nd round pick. He's got size at SG, is willing to play defense, and gives us scoring and 3pt shooting. He grew to be a 10+ PPG scorer in his 3rd season. If he starts at SF, he could easily prove he's worth his paycheck.

ET may get a lot of open 3pt looks and may hit at a higher rate than we expect. Teams may choose to more actively defend the better 3pt shooters on the team. The one season he started at SF and played 35+ MPG, he shot .365 from 3.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Not having a backup PG is our biggest weakness. CJ and Turner is not enough PG skills and if both play together everytime Dame sits it minimizes his playing time alongside them. Instead of trying to fit players to unnatural positions based on what they did or didn't do in HS, Stotts should give the backup minutes to Napier at least until we bring someone better who's a natural PG. Making all these adjustments trying to manage the minutes instead of coaching the game is exactly why Stotts is a weak coach
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Here is the thing, I think most people (i.e Stotts, Neil, me...) want either CJ or Dame on the court at all times for their scoring. So the best way to do that is to have a PG who can cover big SG's. Unfortunately really good big back up PG's are hard to come by. So my guess is Neil went for the next best option and that was a 6'7" SG who is pretty good at running an offense.

I agree ET is not a PG, but surely you agree that matching CJ and Dame up with a small PG like Napier is not a better option. Napier is on the team in case either Dame or CJ gets hurt. At which point he will play with Turner or Crabbe. But again I think most people want either CJ or Dame on the floor at all times.

Scott Souza: #Celtics Danny Ainge: “I miss Evan Turner already too.” … Mentioned Marcus Smart, Terry Rozier, Jaylen Brown in fight for those minutes.
3 days ago – via Twitter Scott_Souza
 
If you play either Dame or CJ all the time how many minutes do they get to play together? And how good are we with just one of them on the floor?
 
Blazer4ever said:
If you play either Dame or CJ all the time how many minutes do they get to play together? And how good are we with just one of them on the floor?
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My guess is first 6 minutes of the first and third quarters, and the last 6 minutes of the 2nd and 4th. That is about 24 minutes together and 24 minutes when one of them is with ET.

Obviously this could vary from game to game. For example against GS I would play ET more minutes while guarding Klay.

How good was CJ during the stretch when Dame was hurt? They do just fine without the other. I think it essential we always have one of them on the floor. That way at least one player on the court can create his own shot.......when needed.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
My guess is first 6 minutes of the first and third quarters, and the last 6 minutes of the 2nd and 4th. That is about 24 minutes together and 24 minutes when one of them is with ET.

Obviously this could vary from game to game. For example against GS I would play ET more minutes while guarding Klay.

How good was CJ during the stretch when Dame was hurt? They do just fine without the other. I think it essential we always have one of them on the floor. That way at least one player on the court can create his own shot.......when needed.
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this sounds about right with the one caveat I might add that if we really are effective with ET running the defacto pg position we should play dame and cj together less than they play apart
 
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