Evan Turner? Meh

[Sinobas]

Looked good at getting to the rim today. Oh and all of last year.....

Well, your looking is not giving you accurate information about reality. Only 17% of his shots are at the rim, and he's only been hitting those at a pathetic 52%.

 

[Sinobas]

It's like Evan Turner has never played an NBA game before this season. We have no data to go off of except for the last 16 games. Based on those 16 games he's horrible!!!11!1!!!1

Yeah, but it's also like, his per 36 numbers that year are not a big deviation from his career average in any statistical category.!!!!!!1!!!!11!!

 

[Cippy91]

 

[BBert]

What? The Trail Blazers had to OVERPAY to get a free agent to sign in Portland?

Man. That never happens.

 

[Natebishop3]

In the last five games, Turner is averaging 12.6 ppg, 3.4 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1 steal and 0.8 turnovers while shooting 49% from the field and 43% from three in 26.4 minutes per game. And that's not counting Brooklyn, where he really turned things around and dropped 19 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, zero turnovers and shot 66% from the field in that game.

 

[illmatic99]

In the last five games, Turner is averaging 12.6 ppg, 3.4 assists, 3.2 rebounds, 1 steal and 0.8 turnovers while shooting 49% from the field and 43% from three in 26.4 minutes per game. And that's not counting Brooklyn, where he really turned things around and dropped 19 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, zero turnovers and shot 66% from the field in that game.

Look at that. The guy got more comfortable, and he's back doing what he did in Boston.

 

[HailBlazers]

Look at that. The guy got more comfortable, and he's back doing what he did in Boston.

You don't say.

 

[selloutking]

but for WAY more money...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Look at that. The guy got more comfortable, and he's back doing what he did in Boston.

but for WAY more money...

Yes--the amount of money he was offered based on the belief that he could do here what he did there. If he is able to consistently produce here like he did in Boston, then he will be earning the "way more money", and his salary will be a non-issue.

 

[selloutking]

Yes--the amount of money he was offered based on the belief that he could do here what he did there. If he is able to consistently produce here like he did in Boston, then he will be earning the "way more money", and his salary will be a non-issue.

I get that, I guess I just wish we didn't have to throw money at ho hum FAs like that

 

[Natebishop3]

Yes--the amount of money he was offered based on the belief that he could do here what he did there. If he is able to consistently produce here like he did in Boston, then he will be earning the "way more money", and his salary will be a non-issue.

It's like it still hasn't sunk in for people that contracts aren't what they used to be.

Turner and Kent Bazemore signed identical contracts over the summer. Bazemore is averaging 11.6 ppg, 2.7 assists, 3.3 rebounds, and he's shooting 38% from the field, 32% from three.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I get that, I guess I just wish we didn't have to throw money at ho hum FAs like that

What's that old saying..."wish in one hand, and crap in the other..."?

 

[illmatic99]

By the start of next season, ET's contract will stop looking as bloated as it does now. Once guys like George Hill start making 25 mil, we'll stop blinking at 17 for ET (and yes, I know Hill has been good this year, but he's not a max player if you look at his career).

The Crabbe contract is the one that is worrisome. It's completely untradeable. And even if he improves, he won't get the PT or opportunities here to show it.

 

[Natebishop3]

By the start of next season, ET's contract will stop looking as bloated as it does now. Once guys like George Hill start making 25 mil, we'll stop blinking at 17 for ET (and yes, I know Hill has been good this year, but he's not a max player if you look at his career).

The Crabbe contract is the one that is worrisome. It's completely untradeable. And even if he improves, he won't get the PT or opportunities here to show it.

I really wonder if maybe the Crabbe decision came from Paul. He has been notoriously paranoid about letting young players walk for nothing ever since the Jermaine O'Neal fiasco.

 

[illmatic99]

I really wonder if maybe the Crabbe decision came from Paul. He has been notoriously paranoid about letting young players walk for nothing ever since the Jermaine O'Neal fiasco.

Was thinking the same about PA. But the messed up thing is, I have no doubt in my mind that AC can put up 15-18 ppg on decent efficiency in a place like BK/PHI/MEM etc where they can feature him in an offense. For our squad, he just needs to get around curls and figure out 10 shot attempts on a good day. And he doesn't do enough on defense to impact the game as much as someone like Iggy in GS.

We matched his contract clearly to keep him on as an asset. But it's bad enough to make him a distinctly negative asset.

Fuckin Sean Marks. I thought he actually liked his few months in POR. He definitely screwed us.

 

[Natebishop3]

Was thinking the same about PA. But the messed up thing is, I have no doubt in my mind that AC can put up 15-18 ppg on decent efficiency in a place like BK/PHI/MEM etc where they can feature him in an offense. For our squad, he just needs to get around curls and figure out 10 shot attempts on a good day. And he doesn't do enough on defense to impact the game as much as someone like Iggy in GS.

We matched his contract clearly to keep him on as an asset. But it's bad enough to make him a distinctly negative asset.

Fuckin Sean Marks. I thought he actually liked his few months in POR. He definitely screwed us.

He was desperate. More desperate than us...... but then again, what does it say about us that we matched? I think when you just got burned by Chandler freaking Parsons, you tend to overvalue your assets.

 

[selloutking]

By the start of next season, ET's contract will stop looking as bloated as it does now. Once guys like George Hill start making 25 mil, we'll stop blinking at 17 for ET (and yes, I know Hill has been good this year, but he's not a max player if you look at his career).

The Crabbe contract is the one that is worrisome. It's completely untradeable. And even if he improves, he won't get the PT or opportunities here to show it.

no I get that contracts are just in general going to be larger due to the time we are in. but that kind of money for that kind of player is still pretty silly. I mean if the guy AND his agent are blown away by the offer, you gotta think even NO had that internal though of "shit, started too high". I am sure we have all done something like that, just not on that scale, and I know how I have felt afterward.

 

[Natebishop3]

no I get that contracts are just in general going to be larger due to the time we are in. but that kind of money for that kind of player is still pretty silly. I mean if the guy AND his agent are blown away by the offer, you gotta think even NO had that internal though of "shit, started too high". I am sure we have all done something like that, just not on that scale, and I know how I have felt afterward.

It was basically use-it or lose-it for us, and you'd rather impress the player and get him to commit right away. We thought we had Parsons and that didn't work out. And as I said before, if Kent Bazemore was getting the same contract, it can't be that far out of the realm of possibility. He probably was still dealing with the shock of the contracts as well when he got the offer.

 

[selloutking]

It was basically use-it or lose-it for us, and you'd rather impress the player and get him to commit right away. We thought we had Parsons and that didn't work out. And as I said before, if Kent Bazemore was getting the same contract, it can't be that far out of the realm of possibility. He probably was still dealing with the shock of the contracts as well when he got the offer.

thank goodness on the parsons part lol
but yea the bazemore comparison is definitely fair, baze seems like he might at least be more fun to have around than turner.
that wasn't a I would rather have him comment, just an observation of the players personality's/way they play.

 

[Natebishop3]

thank goodness on the parsons part lol
but yea the bazemore comparison is definitely fair, baze seems like he might at least be more fun to have around than turner.
that wasn't a I would rather have him comment, just an observation of the players personality's/way they play.

I really wanted Parsons last season.. until he went down with another knee injury. I didn't want him after that. There were rumors that getting Parsons was part of a plan to get Dwight Howard. Not sure if that's true. Our team would certainly look much different with Parsons/Howard. Not sure if it would be better though.

 

[blue9]

There was also a rumor that we turned Parsons away after learning more about his injury status. Not sure what to believe.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Look at that. The guy got more comfortable, and he's back doing what he did in Boston.

Yes ,playing in Boston or Indiana means playing mainly against Eastern conference teams.
Now let's see him contribute against GSW,Spurs,Clippers,Thunder etc.

It's nice to see Turner is playing well lately, but i'm personally not going to change my opinion of him.
He is not worth what he's getting imo.

 

[Minstrel]

Turner is basically a less efficient Shaun Livingston. Good defensively, good passer, able to hit mid-range jumpers and post-up smaller wings. He shoots more but scores at a lower efficiency (in fact, Turner's scoring efficiency has been pretty awful most of his career).

He's a useful spare part, with his ability to do everything moderately well (except score), but he's being paid like a high-level supporting player. Age aside, I'd rather have Livingston, and Turner is making roughly three times more.

 

[Rhal]

I really wonder if maybe the Crabbe decision came from Paul. He has been notoriously paranoid about letting young players walk for nothing ever since the Jermaine O'Neal fiasco.

We are also seeing a trend the last handful of years of teams paying for possible potential that the player hasn't shown yet. Probably that way with Crabbe, NO and PA probably said hey this will not be the greatest contract next year but what matters is he worth it in the later years of the contract.

 

[STOMP]

I really wanted Parsons last season.. until he went down with another knee injury. I didn't want him after that.

Weren't you pining for management to max out Crabbe for a whole lot of last season?

STOMP

 

[Natebishop3]

Weren't you pining for management to max out Crabbe for a whole lot of last season?

STOMP

Pining? No. I never said I wanted him at a max contract. I said that I wouldn't be surprised if he got a huge paycheck. Turns out I was right.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I will care about a player's salary when it keeps us from getting someone better. For the Blazers, that rarely is a factor. If a player makes us better then that is all I care about. We need a big guard who attacks the basket and who can dribble and pass. So until we find someone else who provides that better than ET off the bench. than I am happy with ET. He started off the season looking bad, and I still don't want him taking many 3's. But the last 5 games or so, he has played well.

 

[Tunchi]

Turner has been nice lately and I've been hard on him so I can admit that

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Turner has been nice lately and I've been hard on him so I can admit that

yup he's turned it around

 

[Orion Bailey]

Turner has been nice lately and I've been hard on him so I can admit that

Standup my man!