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I can’t think of a rotation player in recent memory I enjoyed watching less than Even Turner... I really hope Olshey can get over his ego and just attach a 1st rd pick to get rid of that atrocious contract
 
Gronk Brady said:
I really hope Olshey can get over his ego and just attach a 1st rd pick to get rid of that atrocious contract
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Nah, that just compounds the mistake. As badly as I want to get rid of Turner, I wouldn't include anything higher than, say, the 25th pick to shed his salary.

I'm of the mind of just benching him. Consider the cap space gone. Maybe a team will eventually make a palatable offer for him. Or maybe he'll get tired of sitting and request a buy-out.
 
blue9 said:
Nah, that just compounds the mistake. As badly as I want to get rid of Turner, I wouldn't include anything higher than, say, the 25th pick to shed his salary.

I'm of the mind of just benching him. Consider the cap space gone. Maybe a team will eventually make a palatable offer for him. Or maybe he'll get tired of sitting and request a buy-out.
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I agree. No need to compound the mistake.

Better course of action is to try and break his bad contract into two smaller bad contracts. Something like Dellavedova + ?
 
Gronk Brady said:
I can’t think of a rotation player in recent memory I enjoyed watching less than Even Turner... I really hope Olshey can get over his ego and just attach a 1st rd pick to get rid of that atrocious contract
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If we're going to be crappy with Turner anyways then we might as well be crappy and still have our draft picks. Dumping an asset to get rid of Turner only helps Paul Allen's checkbook a little. Not the team.
 
Nikolokolus said:
He's pretty much the same guy since he entered the league. Blame Olshey for thinking he was something else and then throwing ridiculous money at him.
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that offseason really nobody else wanted the money he threw at him....that offseason was filled with ridiculous deals all around the league...Batum got 120 mill and he's way overpaid...Parsons, Ryan Anderson....Kanter...lot of big deals..Crabbe as well
 
dviss1 said:
Everyone comes in here and shits on Evan Turner but doesn't say SHIT when he has a great game.
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He's a big reason we're the 4th best defense in the league....and if I'm not mistaken it was around this time last season when he started getting the occasional 24 pt game.....he doesn't fill the stat sheet but to me he's a great defender at every position on the court
 
dviss1 said:
Everyone comes in here and shits on Evan Turner but doesn't say SHIT when he has a great game.
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His D is pretty good. Inconsistent shot to say the least. lol I love that he had a good game and hope he keeps it up so it builds up his trade value.
 
Did I miss something? I thought he had a good game last night. Don't crap on a guy when he plays well. Too much hate around here.

I loved Turner in Boston and am glad to have him here. Our system is seriously flawed, so much so that it's tough for any of our players to look good unless they play hero ball. Fix the system and ET will do what he's paid to do. How much he gets paid is on the front office. We have much bigger problems than ET!
 
Let's just do a reality check here....last night in big minutes Crabbe had 12 pts..3 boards and 3 assists....both Aminu and Turner produced way more in our game.....and Crabbe makes Turner money...Aminu makes Pat Connaughton like money and even Pat had a better line than Crabbe
 
This was probably posted somewhere else already, but is does have some Turner stuff. Also has some stuff on best three man combos: "The biggest takeaway is how stingy the Blazers' defense has been when Ed Davis shares the floor with pretty much anyone and how much the Lillard-McCollum-Turner group has underwhelmed after looking like a strength for parts of 2016-17."
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...s_trail_blazers_have_an_evan.html#incart_2box
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This was probably posted somewhere else already, but is does have some Turner stuff. Also has some stuff on best three man combos: "The biggest takeaway is how stingy the Blazers' defense has been when Ed Davis shares the floor with pretty much anyone and how much the Lillard-McCollum-Turner group has underwhelmed after looking like a strength for parts of 2016-17."
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...s_trail_blazers_have_an_evan.html#incart_2box
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Still think a team like BOS would trade a 1st for Davis.
 
riverman said:
He's a big reason we're the 4th best defense in the league....and if I'm not mistaken it was around this time last season when he started getting the occasional 24 pt game.....he doesn't fill the stat sheet but to me he's a great defender at every position on the court
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I see him get blown by and get out of position on defense way too much. From what I've seen, he's overrated on that end.
 
BonesJones said:
I see him get blown by and get out of position on defense way too much. From what I've seen, he's overrated on that end.
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well......we disagree. I think he's a smart defender ...what I don't like is his shot form and his tendency to step out of bounds....sort of like Chief...but both are huge reasons our defense has been top shelf.....and for the record....I don't want to argue the point
 
BonesJones said:
Still think a team like BOS would trade a 1st for Davis.
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It's irritating that people keep talking about trading our hardest working player.

Not sure if we'd want any of their picks since they will be ranked so high but which one is Davis worth to them and us??

2018
Los Angeles Lakers (If pick falls between spots 2-5)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2019
Philadelphia 76ers or Sacramento Kings (If the Lakers’ 2018 pick falls outside 2-5, Boston will instead have a choice between Philadelphia’s top-1 protected pick or Sacramento’s top-1 protected pick in 2019)
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick falls outside top-8)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2020
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-6)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2021
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed. Pick would be unprotected)
Boston Celtics’ own pick
 
riverman said:
well......we disagree. I think he's a smart defender ...what I don't like is his shot form and his tendency to step out of bounds....sort of like Chief...but both are huge reasons our defense has been top shelf.....and for the record....I don't want to argue the point
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He definitely has stretches of good defense but it's inconsistent in my opinion. His focus wanes too much at times, usually when his offense is struggling. I'm not arguing that he's a smart defender or your point at all really, just wish he'd be more consistent with it.
 
dviss1 said:
It's irritating that people keep talking about trading our hardest working player.

Not sure if we'd want any of their picks since they will be ranked so high but which one is Davis worth to them and us??

2018
Los Angeles Lakers (If pick falls between spots 2-5)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2019
Philadelphia 76ers or Sacramento Kings (If the Lakers’ 2018 pick falls outside 2-5, Boston will instead have a choice between Philadelphia’s top-1 protected pick or Sacramento’s top-1 protected pick in 2019)
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick falls outside top-8)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2020
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-6)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2021
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed. Pick would be unprotected)
Boston Celtics’ own pick
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He's our hardest working player, but at a position we have a logjam at, and he's expiring and will probably get a bigger contract offer than people expect. It makes sense to capitalize on his value.

I think that Boston's 2018 pick is a good deal for both teams. BOS doesn't have to trade back any salary because they have an Injury Exception for Gordon Hayward with which they can take in an expiring contract that's worth up to $8M via trade.

With Boston's pick, we could add someone like Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Bell, or Malcolm Brogdon. Either get Bostons 2018 pick or the better pick of MEM's/LAC's in 2019.
 
BonesJones said:
He's our hardest working player, but at a position we have a logjam at, and he's expiring and will probably get a bigger contract offer than people expect. It makes sense to capitalize on his value.

I think that Boston's 2018 pick is a good deal for both teams. BOS doesn't have to trade back any salary because they have an Injury Exception for Gordon Hayward with which they can take in an expiring contract that's worth up to $8M via trade.

With Boston's pick, we could add someone like Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Bell, or Malcolm Brogdon. Either get Bostons 2018 pick or the better pick of MEM's/LAC's in 2019.
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I think you need to stop with that.

What you should say is, "we could roll the dice and try to find someone in the range of a Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Bell, or Malcolm Brogdon.

Dropping those names doesn't mean we'll actually find someone of that caliber.
 
dviss1 said:
It's irritating that people keep talking about trading our hardest working player.

Not sure if we'd want any of their picks since they will be ranked so high but which one is Davis worth to them and us??

2018
Los Angeles Lakers (If pick falls between spots 2-5)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2019
Philadelphia 76ers or Sacramento Kings (If the Lakers’ 2018 pick falls outside 2-5, Boston will instead have a choice between Philadelphia’s top-1 protected pick or Sacramento’s top-1 protected pick in 2019)
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick falls outside top-8)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2020
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-6)
Los Angeles Clippers (If pick has not yet been conveyed and falls outside top-14)
Boston Celtics’ own pick

2021
Memphis Grizzlies (If pick has not yet been conveyed. Pick would be unprotected)
Boston Celtics’ own pick
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He's going to be a free agent this summer, we we will probably lose him for nothing. That would be my reason why. Right now we're looking at the following free agents this summer:

Nurk
Vonleh
Davis
Napier
Patty C

Obviously we have to re-sign Nurk. Outside of that, who do we bring back and for how much?

Vonleh is only 22 years old. He's going to get offers.

Davis is 28. I'm sure some contender is going to throw him a decent contract.

Napier has been putting up really decent numbers as a backup. I think he'll get interest.

Connaughton is..... I don't know.

So if I'm Neil, and I have Collins/Swanigan locked up for another three years, I'm looking to deal Davis and maybe Vonleh before the deadline because I really don't want to have to overpay either one of them to keep them in a Blazer uniform.
 
riverman said:
Going to love playing with Joel Freeland and Victor Claver next season
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That cat has carved out a spot. He's gonna stick in this league mark my words. I love him off the bench.
  • Plays hard D.
  • Knockdown shooter.
  • Can finish at the rack.
  • Good ballhandler.
  • HUSTLES.
  • GREAT BBIQ
  • Catches alley-oops.
We should keep Pat. I think he'll be cheap.
 
dviss1 said:
That cat has carved out a spot. He's gonna stick in this league mark my words. I love him off the bench.
  • Plays hard D.
  • Knockdown shooter.
  • Can finish at the rack.
  • Good ballhandler.
  • HUSTLES.
  • GREAT BBIQ
  • Catches alley-oops.
We should keep Pat. I think he'll be cheap.
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Agree 100%. If he is happy with the 3-7 mill range for coming off the bench as a 3 and D guy, he is a keeper.
 
ET playing for max contract, god knows he deserves one with the way hes been playing all year
 
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