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[MarAzul]

Just think how much more clear the court will be, with one more appointment.

....you do know Scalia died, right? You still don't have him together with Gorsuch. The Court today is basically identical to the Court that judged the ACA to be constitutional.

 

[MarAzul]

Minstrel must be well into his cups.
Good night all.

 

[Minstrel]

Minstrel must be well into his cups.
Good night all.

Drinking heavily is the only way you and Denny even start to make sense.

I thought you meant Gorsuch was the "one more" clarifying appointment. More Scalias will definitely help your cause, yes.

 

[riverman]

You mean there are sore losers

There are americans who don't want political pollution in their scout jamborees rather......you're calling them losers? Shame on you.....

 

[stampedehero]

I despised Obama for many reasons, but I will say this:

Obamacare, in my opinion, was the result of the government, through administration after administration, constantly putting the issue of Healthcare off onto the next president. For the past...what, 50 years or so?....Healthcare has been getting worse and getting worse and getting worse, and time and time again politicians brushed it off on to the next people in line for their jobs. BOTH parties are guilty of this. Republican presidents brushed it off, and Democrat presidents brushed it off. Both brushed it off on to the next generation, and made half-ass efforts to make any REAL change to the problem.

Now Obama comes along, and by the time it lands on his desk, it's an absolute huge fucking mess. I can't necessarily fault him for doing things his way. But....I do believe he could have listened to those people who told him "look, despite what you are telling people, there are many Americans who ARE going to lose their doctors and/or their health insurance."

MANY people told him that repeatedly, and he didn't listen to them. And that's exactly what happened: millions of Americans lost either their existing Healthcare plans, and/or their doctors. If he had listened to them and made the appropriate changes and compromises on Obamacare, perhaps things would have turned out better.

But we'll never know that now.

Perhaps Obama saw the big political picture but ignored the needs of the common joes like you and me.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Perhaps Obama saw the big political picture but ignored the needs of the common joes like you and me.

I can definitely agree with that. Deeper than that, however....in my opinion....I believe that there is a huge disconnect between most of the Democrats in Congress and that of Middle America. It's not fair to say that it was just Obama; Hillary and many others had the same problem.

If the Democrats want to win another election, then they seriously need to address this gaping issue.

 

[Denny Crane]

Scalia was on the court when they judged Obamacare to be constitutional. Sorry, man, that's not the crushing blow you seem to think it is.

So was Justice Kennedy, the man rumored to be next to retire from the Court.

 

[Denny Crane]

Neither of us remembered or forgot it. You chose to post a news article about that to prove that Roberts doesn't consider the Court's role to judge constitutionality.

But what I like about you is that you're proud of how you humiliated yourself!

You were schooled. Speaking of school!

 

[Denny Crane]

There are americans who don't want political pollution in their scout jamborees rather......you're calling them losers? Shame on you.....

I'm quite sure the sore losers at CNN or the WaPost can easily find the outliers and make a lot of noise over nothing.

 

[Minstrel]

You were schooled. Speaking of school!

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[Denny Crane]

Weak.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Weak.

Actually that was pretty funny.

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually that was pretty funny.

It was his way of surrendering.

When the facts aren't on your side, bang the table. I'm sure Cicero or some other ancient philosopher said something similar.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/07/04/legal-adage/

In 1956 the adage is attributed to the famous jurist Oliver Wendell Holmes, but QI has not been able to find any compelling supporting evidence for this claim [OWHG]:

You don’t have to be a lawyer to recognize the admonition of Oliver Wendell Holmes quoted by Scotty Mattraw in Printing Buyers’ News: “If you’re weak on the facts and strong on the law, pound the law. If you’re weak on the law and strong on the facts, pound the facts. If you’re weak on both, pound the table.”