Politics F' Elon Musk!

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Rastapopoulos said:
You have literally no way of knowing that, as you do not have access to the Multiverse. What we do know is that he's a horrible boss and his employees despise him and have contempt for him. Does he drive them to success? Well, imagine how much more success we'd have if we kidnapped their families and literally worked them to death! And hey, it's so fashionable to knock the Nazis nowadays but they really pushed the frontiers of research on twins.
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Yes I can. I can remember everybody (car guys, Ford, GM, Toyota) saying that electric cars wouldn't work. We didn't have the battery tech. Then Tesla actually made one that did work and was really freaking cool. It cost a lot of money, but it funded the mass market models.

That was a great plan. It worked incredibly well.

Nobody else could do reusable rockets. That wasn't even a consideration. They made fun of him for that. Until he and Gwynne Shotwell got it done.

Nobody else is even close yet.

Starlink is State of the art. Better than anything the US government has.

I don't know how you can sit there and say his companies didn't give us technologies we wouldn't have. His companies have given us technologies that we currently have now that nobody else has given us.

Nobody else was even working on them seriously.
 
Some billionaires are really evil. They don't care how many suffer or if planet is destroyed so long as they get richer.

Some have decent instincts, they support schools and health care and museums and so on. But Trump's one piece of legislation was $2 trillion tax cuts for the rich. He plans additional $4 trillion. We are the only major country without national health. Many countries have free childcare and college. And they don't have as many homeless.

We could have health care, childcare, education, housing if so much of national wealth wasn't going to a few people. Who pay very low taxes.

You think Musk couldn't live well if he had only $1 billion instead of $400 billion? How many schools and homes could $399 billion build?
 
A rich person contribute some of his income to his foundation, then doesn't have to pay income tax on that amount. A good foundation, like Clinton or Gates, gives its money to charitable organizations. A selfish foundation, like Musk, gives its money to improve the reputation/profit of his own companies, or his relatives' companies.

The IRS has a definition for a foundation, and for a charitable organization. Every year, a foundation must give away at least 5% of its money. Musk's foundation flaunts that IRS rule.

The NY Times has a paywall, so here's a reprint of its article.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2024/12/14/musk-foundation-didnt-give-away/
 
crandc said:
You think Musk couldn't live well if he had only $1 billion instead of $400 billion? How many schools and homes could $399 billion build?
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But unless he gets FULL compensation, Musk won't be as motivated and we won't get all those wonderful life-improving innovations that only he could ever provide
 
I've started a new religion. Our divine being is Elon Musk. The religion is known as Free Musk.

Why Free Musk? Because he wishes to be free of the constraints of Earth. Because he's persecuted. Because we free ourselves of our burdens by giving Musk our money.

And most of all, because the faithful are known as "Free Musketeers"

Today, open your heart and your wallet and quite possibly your vagina to Free Musk.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I've started a new religion. Our divine being is Elon Musk. The religion is known as Free Musk.

Why Free Musk? Because he wishes to be free of the constraints of Earth. Because he's persecuted. Because we free ourselves of our burdens by giving Musk our money.

And most of all, because the faithful are known as "Free Musketeers"

Today, open your heart and your wallet and quite possibly your vagina to Free Musk.

barfo
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More like "Free Muskrats!"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
But unless he gets FULL compensation, Musk won't be as motivated and we won't get all those wonderful life-improving innovations that only he could ever provide
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Nobody suggested that only he could provide anything.

The point is that he is the only one with the means who is motivated to provide these leaps and is actually doing it, rather than just talking about it.
 
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barfo said:
I've started a new religion. Our divine being is Elon Musk. The religion is known as Free Musk.

Why Free Musk? Because he wishes to be free of the constraints of Earth. Because he's persecuted. Because we free ourselves of our burdens by giving Musk our money.

And most of all, because the faithful are known as "Free Musketeers"

Today, open your heart and your wallet and quite possibly your vagina to Free Musk.

barfo
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Slogan: "it's getting Musky in here!"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
This, only 9 million rather than 999
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Yeah... Honestly... 9 million should give you plenty to live comfortably off the interest the rest your life and keep up with inflation.

At least, it would if you had a decent social safety net... I could see a couple of family members with bad cancers wiping somebody out pretty quickly. Or at least destroying their ability to retire.
 
How many people here have known or met and spoke with a billionaire at length?
The level of supposed knowledge of how they work here is off the charts. Lol.

What I do know is they live in a different world than us commoners and we couldn't begin to fathom the day to day things they do or think.

But keep on talking like yall know everything about them and how evil they all are….

talk about cringe….
 
I don't claim to know how billionaires live. But I do know evil when I see it.
 
crandc said:
I don't claim to know how billionaires live. But I do know evil when I see it.
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It's not even that they are evil that gets me. It's just an inefficient and counterproductive allocation of resources for society.

If the rules were set up so it was more advantatious for them to invest that money in their employees and the long-term viability of their companies society would be better off.

And it's not just billionaires.
 
Phatguysrule said:
It's not even that they are evil that gets me. It's just an inefficient and counterproductive allocation of resources for society.

If the rules were set up so it was more advantatious for them to invest that money in their employees and the long-term viability of their companies society would be better off.

And it's not just billionaires.
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Correct.
But some are still evil.
 
THE HCP said:
I have sat in meetings with 3 billionaires and they paid for lunch, so I got no ill will aimed at them.
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It's kind of cheap that three freaking billionaires had to split your lunch three ways. I think this proves the point that they are in fact evil...
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
How many people here have known or met and spoke with a billionaire at length?
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I have.

The level of supposed knowledge of how they work here is off the charts. Lol.

What I do know is they live in a different world than us commoners and we couldn't begin to fathom the day to day things they do or think.
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They aren't a different species. They put their pants on 1 peg at a time, just like the rest of us.

barfo
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Read up on the increasing income inequality problem.

If you were a billionaire, Why wouldn't you increase the salaries of your employees across the board so they can enjoy in the successes of the company and take care of their families?
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Taylor Swift paid her crew something like $100 million in bonuses from Eras your but she's an exception.
 
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