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My (retired) brother-in-law just visited and told a story of being held up on the freeway for three hours - traffic going BOTH ways. Turned out it was a Tesla that had exploded and burned with such heat that it set the paint on houses by the freeway on fire and all that was left was the beams, and they were burned shiny. There was also a foot-deep hole in the freeway because everything had burned away. Who knows if they'll ever identify the driver because there isn't even dust left.
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Another reason to keep my Corolla.
 
SpaceX’s town in Texas warns residents may lose property rights

Homer Pompa has lived in a rural area on Texas’s southernmost tip, near the U.S.-Mexico border, for more than a half-century. Since 2014, the 75-year-old Brownsville native has watched his tiny coastal community transform into ground zero for Elon Musk’s SpaceX and its billion-dollar effort to colonize Mars.

Then, last month, more than 200 people — many of them SpaceX employees — voted to turn Pompa’s parcel of land and parts of unincorporated Boca Chica Village into a city named Starbase. Weeks later, the disabled Vietnam War veteran received a letter from the newly created city informing him that he is at risk of losing the “right to continue using your property for its current use” as the city reviews its zoning.

Pompa, who described feeling “caged in” by SpaceX’s near continuous development in an interview with The Washington Post, said he now worries he will lose his home.

“This is like heaven to me,” he said. “Musk wants to take heaven away from me.”

The city of Starbase and SpaceX did not respond to requests for comment.

A new city emerges
On May 21, the city of Starbase said in a notice to Pompa and some other residents that officials were considering a new zoning ordinance and map. The recipients own property in parts of Starbase that fall under the proposed “Mixed Use District,” which “allows for a blend of residential, office, retail, and small-scale service uses,” according to the notice, signed by City Administrator Kent Myers.

Attached to the letter was a proposed zoning map identifying which parts of the city would fall under each of three classifications: a mixed-use district, an open space district and a heavy industrial area. Pompa’s property — which includes a deck overlooking the Rio Grande, from which he’s watched dozens of SpaceX test flights — falls in the proposed mixed-use district.

Pompa and other South Texas residents have expressed fear at what they see as encroachment by Musk, the world’s richest person and until recently a central figure of President Donald Trump’s administration. But land use experts said the changes outlined in Starbase’s letter are typical of those made by a new town.

“Texas gives local governments a lot of responsibilities and rights. One of them is, if they so choose, they can put zoning ordinances in place,” said Emilio Longoria, a professor at South Texas College of Law Houston. “It is not suspicious that Starbase, being a newly incorporated municipality, would want to put a land use regulation in place like zoning.”

But Longoria noted that zoning can place “an immense burden on landowners” because it regulates how they can use their properties. Zoning inherently takes away property rights, he said.

“The question is, how much will be taken away and under what terms?” Longoria said.

Kellen Zale, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center, cautioned that Texas has strong protections for private property owners. Those include a section of Texas’s rules for local government that says a municipality incorporated after Sept. 1, 2003, may not bar a person from “continuing to use land in the area in the manner in which the land was being used on the date of incorporation if the land use was legal at that time.”

Robert Paterson, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin School of Architecture, said he expects the city commission to “grandfather the existing uses” of the property owners’ homes — allowing the residential areas to remain residential.

“That’s what most cities in Texas would do. They would not push people out of their homes,” Paterson said.

Officials plan to host a public hearing on the zoning ordinance on June 23 at Starbase’s temporary city hall — located steps from SpaceX’s production facility — to hear public comments and potentially adopt the proposal.

Challenges from local and environmental groups
The changes to Starbase extend beyond the city’s zoning ordinance. This week, the Texas legislature approved a measure that would formally grant the city the power to shut down Boca Chica Beach for SpaceX launches. Lawmakers passed the bill, moments before ending its biennial session, over the objections of the local Indigenous community and environmental groups.

“It feels like every day, SpaceX is moving faster to colonize our region,” said Bekah Hinojosa, co-founder of the South Texas Environmental Justice Network. “Now that Trump is in office, just in the last few months, we’ve seen SpaceX become their own company town, increase launches. Now they’re taking over control of our beach.”

“They’re pushing fast and hard to take over very quickly,” Hinojosa added, calling SpaceX’s arrival a “disaster” for the local community.

Although the company has brought more than 3,000 jobs to the region, residents and environmental advocacy groups have raised concerns about the impact of the company’s launch complex on the local environment. One local group, SaveRGV, filed a lawsuit last year accusing SpaceX of polluting the waters at Boca Chica Beach. The group dropped the lawsuit in February.

In 2024, the Environmental Protection Agency fined SpaceX nearly $150,000 for violating the Clean Water Act by discharging hundreds of thousands of gallons of wastewater into wetlands near the launch site without a proper permit. SpaceX said it settled the matter with the agency, despite disagreeing with the findings, The Post previously reported.

Juan Mancias, chairman of the Carrizo/Comecrudo Tribe, said Musk and the state’s lawmakers don’t realize how sacred Boca Chica Beach is to the tribe, noting that the 8-mile stretch of sand is the site of their creation story.

“In our language, we call it ‘ma’yapia,’” he said. “This is a mothering place. A lot of babies were born here during those times.”

Hinojosa accused Musk and state officials of ignoring her group.

“We ask for meetings, and they don’t respond to our meeting requests,” she said. “We’ve done everything. We’ve hired our lawyers, sent letters. We’ve filed lawsuits. We’ve sent public comments. We’ve gone to city, county meetings.”

Mancias and Hinojosa said they both plan to attend the June 23 hearing.

“We just want to be treated like human beings,” Mancias said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...esidents-may-lose-property-rights/ar-AA1G8BUD
 
Elizabeth Warren detailed how Musk increased his wealth by $100 billion since Trump took over. It's Monopoly money, he can't spend it. Like those who climb a mountain because it is there, Musk wants more money because it is there.
 
Elon now saying Trump tariffs will cause recession. Where was he a week ago? A month ago?
 
Steve Bannon called for SpaceX to be seized and nationalized and Elon deported.
Anyone who invested in popcorn is making a killing.
No pretense this has anything to do with law or national interest. It's the dictator turning on oligarch. Putin did it.
 
crandc said:
Steve Bannon called for SpaceX to be seized and nationalized and Elon deported.
Anyone who invested in popcorn is making a killing.
No pretense this has anything to do with law or national interest. It's the dictator turning on oligarch. Putin did it.
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Also China with Jack Ma. Though, Jack Ma survived and appears to have some freedom again.
 
It cost seventeen cents a day to keep a person with HIV alive. Musk ended AID. People are starting to die and will continue dying by the hundreds of thousands. The HIV medication we taxpayers purchased is sitting in warehouses not being distributed because Musk and Trump ended AID. The medication will be incinerated

Trump and Musk will be remembered as mass murderers.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Elon has been saying that all along. He wants no tariffs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/wha...iffs-and-their-potential-effect-on-tesla.html

It seems like he was trying to play along so it could be used as a negotiating ploy with other countries... But now that the bill is getting pushed through he's freaking out about how bad it is.
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Tesla has already taken a shellacking because of his government role. The tariffs and no more tax incentives for his electric cars are a death knoll.


That's not even mentioning his other businesses.

Of course he is against the bill. Of course he blames Trump and his administration who has cost him a fortune. He has himself to blame too of course for taking part, but he is stuck in a hole now and shovels are too expensive.
 
Chris Craig said:
Tesla has already taken a shellacking because of his government role. The tariffs and no more tax incentives for his electric cars are a death knoll.


That's not even mentioning his other businesses.

Of course he is against the bill. Of course he blames Trump and his administration who has cost him a fortune. He has himself to blame too of course for taking part, but he is stuck in a hole now and shovels are too expensive.
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Absolutely. He's as much to blame as Trump.
 
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Tesla is cratering but Elon is laughing all the way to the bank. Since Trump took office he gained $100 billion.

For comparison, Paul Allen, at the time he died, had a net worth of $25 billion. Musk gained, not earned, four times that amount in five months.
 
A 21 year old developmentally disabled woman got a job working in mail room at National Institute of Health. She loved being independent and earning her own living. In 31 years on the job she received many commendations for her hard work.

Then DOGE eliminated her job. She is now 52, developmentally disabled and unemployed. Job training programs for people with disabilities eliminated under DOGE and big ugly bill because they are inclusion, which is bad. She has few prospects for employment.

Musk no doubt considets her a dumb worthless R word. She earned an honest living for 31 years, something neither Musk nor Trump ever did.
 
Elon dropped the idea of a third party and unsurprisingly announced he will spend millions to elect Trump loyalists in midterms.
 
Mother of his 14th child says she's broke. Apparently Elon offered money if she kept quiet. Not sure when he became shy. I might feel sympathy except she is living in $15,000 a month apartment. I know New York rents are high but....
 
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