Politics FBI handwritten notes to get Flynn fired

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Looks like the DC circuit will be putting an end to Judge Sullivan’s parade. Great news!
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John M. Reeves
1) The wording of the DC Circuit's order directing Judge Sullivan to personally respond to @SidneyPowell1's writ shows it is deeply troubled by Judge Sullivan's actions. #appellatetwitter

2) The Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure govern the filing and disposition of writs in the federal appellate courts. #appellatetwitter

3) These are DIFFERENT from the rules Judge Sullivan relied on to justify appointing amicus to oppose the DOJ's motion to dismiss. #appellatetwitter

4) Rule 21(b)(1) allows the DC Circuit to deny the writ petition outright, without asking for a response. This is what happens with the vast majority of writ petitions. #appellatetwitter

5) If the appellate court instead orders a response under Rule 21(b)(1), it shows it is concerned and wants to hear more about the matter. #appellatetwitter

6) By obtaining an order for a response, @SidneyPowell1 has already cleared a huge hurdle. #appellatetwitter

7) If the DC Circuit ordered a response and did nothing else, that alone would be a huge deal. But the DC Circuit didn't stop there. #appellatetwitter

8) Rule 21(b)(4) states that the appellate court "may invite or order the trial-court judge to address the petition or may invite an amicus curiae to do so." #appellatetwitter

9) The appellate court is not REQUIRED to order the trial-court judge to address the matter--it has the authority to do so, but doesn't need to exercise it. #appellatetwitter

10) Even if it wants to hear from the trial judge, the appellate court can simply "invite"--that is, request, or ask--the trial judge to respond. It does not have to ORDER the judge to respond. #appellatetwitter

11) And even if the appellate court orders the trial court judge to respond, it can avoid requiring the judge to personally defend the action under challenge by appointing a lawyer as amicus curiae to defend the judge's actions. #appellatetwitter

12) This is what the DC Circuit did in the Fokker case--the main case @SidneyPowell1 relies upon in her writ. See the highlighted portion of the fourth image below. #appellatetwitter

13) In Fokker, the DC Circuit said, "Because both parties seek to overturn the district court's denial of their joint motion to exclude time, we appointed amicus curiae to present arguments defending the district court's action." #appellatetwitter

14) The DC Circuit, in ordering Judge Sullivan to respond to @SidneyPowell1 's writ petition, could have easily appointed a lawyer as amicus to do so. #appellatetwitter

15) Note that an amicus appointed by the DC Circuit to defend Judge Sullivan would have had a job entirely different from John Gleeson's job as amicus appointed by Judge Sullivan to oppose the DOJ's motion to dismiss. #appellatetwitter

16) Had the DC Circuit appointed amicus, that lawyer's job would have been to present legal arguments defending Judge Sullivan's refusal to grant the DOJ's dismissal motion, NOT legal arguments purporting to show why the DOJ's motion should not be granted. #appelatetwitter

17) But the DC Circuit did not appoint a lawyer as amicus to defend Judge Sullivan's actions, unlike in Fokker.

18) Instead, the DC Circuit ordered Judge Sullivan to PERSONALLY respond and defend his actions, without an amicus attorney to do it for him. #appellatetwitter

19) This means that Judge Sullivan (and presumably his clerks) will have to PERSONALLY submit written briefing trying to legally justify his refusal to dismiss the Flynn case. #appellatetwitter

20) The DC Circuit is thus making Judge Sullivan--a lifetime federal judge--publicly and directly explain to them his actions. #appellatetwitter

21) In short, of all the options available to the DC Circuit for ruling on @SidneyPowell1 's writ, the DC Circuit, chose the most extreme, rare, and drastic of them. #appellatetwitter

22) It has ordered (not requested) Judge Sullivan to personally (and not through appointed amicus) respond and defend his actions to them. #appellatetwitter

23) This promises to be anything but dull going forward. #appellatetwitter <END>

 

[wizenheimer]

there is no there to this stupid fucking story

 

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there is no there to this stupid fucking story

100% right. Flynn’s case should be dropped soon.

 

[wizenheimer]

lol...well, it's hard to keep track of the threads and the deluge of posts trying to excuse the corrupt behavior of the trump white house. What I meant was there's nothing of substance to obamagate, while flynn is a lying piece of shit who was working to get a cleric deported to Turkey so Erdogan could execute him. Flynn is a disgrace

 

[yankeesince59]

I was told last week that "Flynn did nothing wrong".

 

[Minstrel]

Trump fans: "Flynn lied to the FBI about his treasonous activities which he admitted to, but there might have been a procedural error in the investigation of him, so he's a hero."

 

[wizenheimer]

I was told last week that "Flynn did nothing wrong".

not only has lying become acceptable to the R's, but it's apparently commendable now. Trump 1st, money 2nd, power 3rd, party 4th....meanwhile, actually caring about our democracy, it's principles, and the future of the nation is for fucking losers

 

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Trump fans: "Flynn lied to the FBI about his treasonous activities which he admitted to, but there might have been a procedural error in the investigation of him, so he's a hero."

Nope. There is no 302. We don’t even know if he lied to the fbi.

 

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Justice once and for all!

 

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[SlyPokerDog]

General Flynn Mandamus sounds like a porn star.

 

[riverman]

General Flynn Mandamus sounds like a porn star.

him and his sidekick Chester Rockwell

 

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General Flynn Mandamus sounds like a porn star.

 

[Lanny]

Nope. There is no 302. We don’t even know if he lied to the fbi.

We know one critical piece of information for absolute certain, he admitted to lying to the FBI. I would consider that pretty strong evidence that he lied to the FBI unless he was lying to the court about lying to the FBI.

As a side note, I have to say that I would never admit to something I didn't do. Of course that's just me.

 

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We know one critical piece of information for absolute certain, he admitted to lying to the FBI. I would consider that pretty strong evidence that he lied to the FBI unless he was lying to the court about lying to the FBI.

As a side note, I have to say that I would never admit to something I didn't do. Of course that's just me.

Actually, no we don’t. The 302 report was lost. We don’t even know what he said during that FBI interview.

 

[Lanny]

Actually, no we don’t. The 302 report was lost. We don’t even know what he said during that FBI interview.

Actually we do. It's on record that he admitted lying to the FBI. All of this is based on whether you think he told the truth about lying or not because he lied about that. Yeah, I guess there is that way out.
Oops, just thought of another reason he may have been wrong about saying that he lied to the FBI, he may be having mental problems. Well, I guess that would even explain why Trump wants to hire him for the same job that he once fired him from with the approval of Pence. Mental instability begets mental instability.

 

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[barfo]

Actually, no we don’t. The 302 report was lost. We don’t even know what he said during that FBI interview.

Except of course that everyone who was there, including Flynn, agrees about what he said, and that he lied.

"Flynn is innocent" seems like a very weird hill to choose to die on.

barfo

 

[CupWizier]

She also got caught in a lie the other day, You know, she's the same person that said she would never lie to the press. Of course we knew that comment would eventually turn into a lie as well.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Yep, being pedantic and patronizing to an already hostile media. And then allowing them no response. That’s a sure way to get them on your side. Tuesday’s presser ought to be interesting..........

 

[yankeesince59]

Trump fans: "Flynn lied to the FBI about his treasonous activities which he admitted to, but there might have been a procedural error in the investigation of him, so he's a hero."

Except of course that everyone who was there, including Flynn, agrees about what he said, and that he lied.

"Flynn is innocent" seems like a very weird hill to choose to die on.

barfo

Yup, "Flynn did nothing wrong".

 

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Actually we do. It's on record that he admitted lying to the FBI. All of this is based on whether you think he told the truth about lying or not because he lied about that. Yeah, I guess there is that way out.
Oops, just thought of another reason he may have been wrong about saying that he lied to the FBI, he may be having mental problems. Well, I guess that would even explain why Trump wants to hire him for the same job that he once fired him from with the approval of Pence. Mental instability begets mental instability.

Defendants change their plea all the time. That isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, if you watch that “intercept” video I shared, Bill explains that a high percentage of “plea bargains” are actually from innocent people pleading so they aren’t hit with a heavily punitive.

But go ahead and cling to “but he plead guilty” argument. Lol

 

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Except of course that everyone who was there, including Flynn, agrees about what he said, and that he lied.

"Flynn is innocent" seems like a very weird hill to choose to die on.

barfo

I refer to watching the “intercept” video I shared. Just because someone “plead” means nothing. Bill clearly laid out a high percentage of guilty pleas are from innocent men and women trying to avoid harsh sentences from a bullying prosecution.

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[SlyPokerDog]

Defendants change their plea all the time. That isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, if you watch that “intercept” video I shared, Bill explains that a high percentage of “plea bargains” are actually from innocent people pleading so they aren’t hit with a heavily punitive.

I totally agree!

#FreeLaurieLoughlin!

 

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[Lanny]

Defendants change their plea all the time. That isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, if you watch that “intercept” video I shared, Bill explains that a high percentage of “plea bargains” are actually from innocent people pleading so they aren’t hit with a heavily punitive.

But go ahead and cling to “but he plead guilty” argument. Lol

Aren't those pleas usually changed before a conviction?

 

[Lanny]

Defendants change their plea all the time. That isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, if you watch that “intercept” video I shared, Bill explains that a high percentage of “plea bargains” are actually from innocent people pleading so they aren’t hit with a heavily punitive.

But go ahead and cling to “but he plead guilty” argument. Lol

I'm going to cling to Flynn's statement to the judge. And here I'm assuming he's now telling the truth. Or is the truth what he's saying in the latest claim?