Zombie FBI Press Conference on Hillary Clinton

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MarAzul said:
Hillary wasn't indicted. Now even a lawyer can't help her. Poor lady, even the Times gives her a lick.
What will tomorrow bring. Oh! We still have the Clinton foundation investigation.
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And Trump U., don't forget that.

barfo
 
I laughed a bit on the inside...

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Real quick. Here is the problem.

The Clintons are awful, but even as rotten as they are the republicans couldn't come up with a candidate that was better. Blame yourselves for this. You created the monster that is Trump and all of the "real" republican politicians couldn't even beat him to get the nomination. Honestly, what does that say about the republican party?

Until the republicans change their platform from the mucked up mess currently to one that actually is in tune somewhat with the reality of the modern age, their only way to win is by trying to make the democrats look worse so that they can look better by comparison.

I would vote for a libertarian candidate as my protest vote if there was a moderate republican nominee that I could live with if they won, but nooo! You guys had to fall for what Trump was selling. Now I have to vote for Hillary even though I don't WANT to vote for her.

Thanks Trump. I mean, Thanks Republicans.
 
barfo said:
Wait, which one of us said she was going to be indicted? And which one of us said it didn't seem likely?

So who was wrong here again?

I think it was you.

barfo
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She's not "not guilty."

The FBI director stood there for 15 minutes in a carefully worded speech making the case she was grossly negligent, but said because of who she is they won't prosecute. The CNN anchors said if she was Secy of State still that she'd have to step down or be fired.

The IG of the state department came to similar conclusions.

Both refuted the number of lies Hiliar has spewed to try to make people believe she didn't do anything seriously wrong.

It really doesn't help her case when CNN brings on their legal experts and talking heads who say they'd prosecute, and that nobody intends to be grossly negligent.

It also doesn't help that they show her saying things like "I never sent or received any classified information" which was later changed to "marked classified at the time" and then Comey's speech excerpt where he says she did.

OJ didn't do it, right barfo?
 
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Bandwagonfansince77 said:
Real quick. Here is the problem.

The Clintons are awful, but even as rotten as they are the republicans couldn't come up with a candidate that was better. Blame yourselves for this. You created the monster that is Trump and all of the "real" republican politicians couldn't even beat him to get the nomination. Honestly, what does that say about the republican party?

Until the republicans change their platform from the mucked up mess currently to one that actually is in tune somewhat with the reality of the modern age, their only way to win is by trying to make the democrats look worse so that they can look better by comparison.

I would vote for a libertarian candidate as my protest vote if there was a moderate republican nominee that I could live with if they won, but nooo! You guys had to fall for what Trump was selling. Now I have to vote for Hillary even though I don't WANT to vote for her.

Thanks Trump. I mean, Thanks Republicans.
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8 years of Obama gave us Trump. And Brexit.

The people have seen enough. It is unfortunate that Trump is the guy they turned to (though Bernie, too) looking for people who won't hurt the country as leaders.
 
Seems like this would be a great year to give the American electorate a mulligan and start the primary process over again. Hillary and Trump? If there was ever a WTF were they thinking moment in US history, this is it.
 
In a related note, I have been considering what I am going to do with my vote in November. I can't vote in good conscience for either Trump or Hillary. The minor party guys don't do anything for me. I did some research on write-in votes. Did you know that in 7 states write-in votes for president are specifically not allowed and won't be counted. In 35 others, they're only allowed for a candidate who files to be considered as a write-in. Fortunately, Oregon will allow me to write in whomever I want. It may be a waste of my vote, but my conscience will be clear.
 
e_blazer said:
In a related note, I have been considering what I am going to do with my vote in November. I can't vote in good conscience for either Trump or Hillary. The minor party guys don't do anything for me. I did some research on write-in votes. Did you know that in 7 states write-in votes for president are specifically not allowed and won't be counted. In 35 others, they're only allowed for a candidate who files to be considered as a write-in. Fortunately, Oregon will allow me to write in whomever I want. It may be a waste of my vote, but my conscience will be clear.
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I am exactly here with you. Both candidates are junk. I don't see a way for either candidate to earn my vote.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I am exactly here with you. Both candidates are junk. I don't see a way for either candidate to earn my vote.
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Wonderful! A vote for Hillary lost. I'll accept that as a win.:smiley-smiley-049:
 
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e_blazer said:
In a related note, I have been considering what I am going to do with my vote in November. I can't vote in good conscience for either Trump or Hillary. The minor party guys don't do anything for me. I did some research on write-in votes. Did you know that in 7 states write-in votes for president are specifically not allowed and won't be counted. In 35 others, they're only allowed for a candidate who files to be considered as a write-in. Fortunately, Oregon will allow me to write in whomever I want. It may be a waste of my vote, but my conscience will be clear.
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barfo is happy and proud to hear you will be casting your write-in vote for barfo.

barfo
 
barfo said:
barfo is happy and proud to hear you will be casting your write-in vote for barfo.

barfo
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You know, that would only be marginally more crazy than voting for Trump or Hillary.
 
Denny Crane said:
She's not "not guilty."

OJ didn't do it, right barfo?
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She's not charged with any crime, although she did mishandle her email.

OJ was charged and found not guilty by a jury, although he did murder 2 people.

Yeah, basically the same situation exactly.

barfo
 
barfo said:
She's not charged with any crime, although she did mishandle her email.
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Jeez, that's like saying the captain of the Titanic didn't get charged with murder, but he did steer the ship poorly.

Comey made it clear that she violated laws, but that he didn't think she be likely to be convicted because there didn't seem to be criminal intent.

He didn't discuss criminal stupidity and deceitfulness.
 
barfo said:
She's not charged with any crime, although she did mishandle her email.

OJ was charged and found not guilty by a jury, although he did murder 2 people.

Yeah, basically the same situation exactly.

barfo
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Same level of sociopathy, although you are correct that OJ killed only 2 people, while Hillary has killed too many to count and endangered 300 million.
 
It is funny reading this thread. It joggles the memory. I haven't thought of candidate "earning" my vote in 40 or 45 years.
Except for Reagan who was a very up beat guy, it almost always comes down to whom is least risk.
I voted for Clinton over the first Bush, but it sure as hell wasn't because he earned my vote! I couldn't stand the preacher nor did
I like policing the world for free. Kuwait should have paid big time and then some.

Here we are again and no friggin contest this time.
 
barfo said:
She's not charged with any crime, although she did mishandle her email.

OJ was charged and found not guilty by a jury, although he did murder 2 people.

Yeah, basically the same situation exactly.

barfo
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She's guilty and everyone but you and her other sycophants will admit it. She's also a serial liar.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...inton-email-claims-collapse-under-fbi-n604526

AP Fact Check: Hillary Clinton Email Claims Collapse Under FBI Investigation
by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Key assertions by Hillary Clinton in defense of her email practices have collapsed under FBI scrutiny.

The agency's yearlong investigation found that she did not, as she claimed, turn over all her work-related messages for release. It found that her private email server did carry classified emails, also contrary to her past statements. And it made clear that Clinton used many devices to send and receive email despite her statements that she set up her email system so that she only needed to carry one.

FBI Director James Comey's announcement Tuesday that he will not refer criminal charges to the Justice Department against Clinton spared her from prosecution and a devastating political predicament. But it left much of her account in tatters and may have aggravated questions of trust swirling around her Democratic presidential candidacy.

A look at Clinton's claims since questions about her email practices as secretary of state surfaced and how they compare with facts established in the FBI probe:

(more of her statements proven to be lies at the link, and for you to spin)
 
WaPost isn't spinning on her behalf. Yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...problems-might-be-even-worse-than-we-thought/

Hillary Clinton’s email problems might be even worse than we thought

Here’s the good news for Hillary Clinton: The FBI has recommended that no charges be broughtfollowing its investigation of the former secretary of state's private email server.

Here’s the bad news: Just about everything else.

FBI Director James B. Comey dismantled large portions of Clinton's long-told story about her private server and what she sent or received on it during a stirring 15-minute news conference, after which he took no questions. While Comey exonerated Clinton, legally speaking, he provided huge amounts of fodder that could badly hamstring her in the court of public opinion.

(The court of public opinion is where OJ is guilty)
 
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It’s hard to read Comey’s statement as anything other than a wholesale rebuke of the story Clinton and her campaign team have been telling ever since the existence of her private email server came to light in spring 2015. She did send and receive classified emails. The setup did leave her — and the classified information on the server — subject to a possible foreign hack. She and her team did delete emails as personal that contained professional information.

Those are facts, facts delivered by the Justice Department of a Democratic administration. And those facts run absolutely counter to the narrative put forth by the Clinton operation: that this whole thing was a Republican witch-hunt pushed by a bored and adversarial media.

Now for the key question: How much do the FBI findings hurt her campaign?

Clinton did avoid indictment, a ruling that would have effectively ended her campaign or left it so badly weakened that there would have been a major move within Democratic circles to replace her as the nominee.

That said, campaigns aren’t governed by the ultimate legality of what Clinton did or didn’t do. So, while dodging an indictment is a good thing — she isn’t under criminal investigation and remains a candidate — it’s a far different thing from being cleared (or even close to it) in the court of public opinion.

For a candidate already badly struggling on questions of whether she is honest and trustworthy enough to hold the office to which she aspires, Comey’s comments are devastating
 
Denny Crane said:
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For a candidate already badly struggling on questions of whether she is honest and trustworthy enough to hold the office to which she aspires, Comey’s comments are devastating
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Agreed. Too bad she only has to beat Trump. Trump said he thought he could shoot someone in the street and his people would still support him. That's probably true of Hillary's supporters, too, especially when the competition is someone they loathe as much as Trump.

This is the year where they definitely need to supply clothes pins at the voting booth so that people can stand the stench.
 
I saw the other day Trump was praising Saddam Hussein for how good he was at killing terrorists. Trump has some weird idols.
 
Hiliar appearance had a crowd of 10,000 show up to see Obama yesterday. Her biggest yet. Not as big as crowds that showed up for Bernie or Trump.
 
Sedatedfork said:
I saw the other day Trump was praising Saddam Hussein for how good he was at killing terrorists. Trump has some weird idols.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terrorism/

While acknowledging that Saddam Hussein "was a bad guy," Trump praised the former Iraqi dictator's efficient killing of "terrorists"

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"He was a bad guy -- really bad guy. But you know what? He did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism," Trump said.
 
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