OT Fed EX Driver Won't be Charged in Death of Racist

[MARIS61]

The driver apoligized and the other guy kept yelling racial slurs.

Fake News.

The article makes it clear the driver never offered any apology of any sort, instead basically said "I'm privileged so don't piss me off".

Had the man been black the driver would not have even stopped. Who's the racist here?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It doesn't calm the situation if the other guy is a raging racist. The driver apoligized and the other guy kept yelling racial slurs. He threw a punch. So the driver defended himself. The guys death is on himself. You can't fix stupid.

Without video to prove anything it is just as likely the white guy didn't go ballistic racist mose until the lame excuse was given.

 

[Chris Craig]

Without video to prove anything it is just as likely the white guy didn't go ballistic racist mose until the lame excuse was given.

There are witnesses

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

There are witnesses

Witnesses aren't infallible

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I like that there's video of everything.

 

[Chris Craig]

I like that there's video of everything.

Im sure there is a video somewhere

 

[theprunetang]

I can't even read this site anymore. What the fuck is wrong with some of you people?

 

[MARIS61]

There are witnesses

There are six, only three who supposedly say he threw a punch.

The Root, a mag for blacks, says there were 3 witnesses who say he threw a drink at him, nothing about anyone seeing him throw a punch.

The man was living in a van, has nobody to step up for an investigation, and FedEx bought a rubber stamp.

 

[Lanny]

GOOD. Self defense.

By the way Fed Ex drivers going 45 in my neighborhood drive me insane.

I may have been the guy who flipped out on him except I think I'd just call him a stupid mother fucker and scream there's kids in this neighborhood.

I don't know how they get away with driving so fast. Without googling it I bet that if they do have some gps trackers on those trucks they know how to rig them.

I'd lay the blame at the company that motivates them to break traffic rules. I had a college friend who told me how they would use high pressure to get drivers to load, drive and unload fast. I get a lot of packages from the VA pharmacy from Fed Ex, UPS and the US Mail Service. Only the U.Sl Mail Service rings my doorbell when they deliver a package. And even though I get time sensitive medications from UPS and Fed Ex, they never ring my door bell. I've even had packages returned to a warehouse and eventually to the sender because they never rang my door bell and I didn't know to sign some packages that required a signature. That's happened a few times.

They don't speed in my neighborhood for two reasons.
1. I'm in Lake Oswego and the police are pretty good at catching speeders;
2. I'm right across from a high school where the police are even more vigilant.

Anyhow, this kind of problem originates at the top.

 

[CupWizier]

I'd love to hear your reasoning for him to exit the safety of his vehicle if it wasn't to escalate the situation, which he obviously did.

Please explain what the driver did illegally? Is getting out of a vehicle illegal where you live?

 

[Lanny]

He yelled racial slurs...he is a racist.

He might not be a racist. He might be mentally ill.
My brother was mentally ill. When he was normal, he had a Black-American friend with whom he was very close. In fact, they were best friends.
As he got more and more ill such that his illness grew in both intensity and frequency, he would express some racial bigotry. This got him into so much trouble that he would occasionally get beat up, even though he was an ex Marine, his illness changed him both mentally and physically. He was no more of a racist than you or I but he certainly got taken for one.
My point is that mental illness is so poorly understood by the general population that they frequently jump to the wrong conclusions. I'm going to reserve judgement on whether this guy was a racist or not because it would imply that I understood his mental state which I do not.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Removed for insults

The insults to staff have to stop. This is your final warning.

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Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[Lanny]

The insults to staff have to stop. This is your final warning.

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Happy Thanksgiving.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fuck you

Thank you very much for the offer but I don't really swing that way. No problem that you do and I'm honored that you want to be intimate with me but I'm going to have to pass on your generous offer.

and the horse you rode in on.

And while I don't own a horse, if I did and I found out you fucked it I would shoot you both.

 

[Natebishop3]

Driver initiated threat by endangering man's neighborhood.

"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."

Man verbally defended his neighborhood by telling the driver to cease his threat.

"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."

Driver escalated by exiting vehicle and arguing with man, despite being in the wrong.

"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."

Man raised hand in defense as driver came at him.

"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."

Driver hits man, killing him.

This is the only part you actually got right. Congrats, you're one out of five!

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."



"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."



"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."



"Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it."



This is the only part you actually got right. Congrats, you're one out of five!

What is acceptable to witnesses and why did driver give excuse if he wasn't going too fast?

 

[CupWizier]

What is acceptable to witnesses and why did driver give excuse if he wasn't going too fast?

The driver never admitted he was driving to fast and I find it hilarious how you and a few others want to claim fault and dispute what witnesses say. Were you there hiding in the grassy knoll?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The driver never admitted he was driving to fast and I find it hilarious how you and a few others want to claim fault and dispute what witnesses say. Were you there hiding in the grassy knoll?

I don't know why I ever show ignored content but seeing as I did for some reason.

From original article in OP....

Mr Warren stopped his truck and tried to explain to Mr Magnuson that he was exhausted and just wanted to finish his work.

A. I said the guy shouldn't be charged.
B. If he wasn't speeding... (my neighborhood is 17mph and I've never seen a Fed ex truck crawl through)...then he shouldn't have needed to 1. Stop and 2. Give an excuse.

If someone on the freeway is driving like a dick and you box them in to piss them off and they finally get around you and cause a fatal accident because they're even angrier it is PARTLY your fault. You might not have broken the law but you know you did something wrong.

 

[CupWizier]

I don't know why I ever show ignored content but seeing as I did for some reason.

From original article in OP....

Mr Warren stopped his truck and tried to explain to Mr Magnuson that he was exhausted and just wanted to finish his work.

A. I said the guy shouldn't be charged.
B. If he wasn't speeding... (my neighborhood is 17mph and I've never seen a Fed ex truck crawl through)...then he shouldn't have needed to 1. Stop and 2. Give an excuse.

If someone on the freeway is driving like a dick and you box them in to piss them off and they finally get around you and cause a fatal accident because they're even angrier it is PARTLY your fault. You might not have broken the law but you know you did something wrong.

THE WITNESSES TESTIFIED THAT HE WASN'T SPEEDING!!!

You are making assumptions as to why he got out and being tired and wanting to finish his route isn't the same as admitting he was speeding. These sort of cases can be a real problem without witnesses as it turns into a he said she said situation. With 6 different witnesses stating the same thing pretty much clears it up. What a fed ex driver does in your neighborhood or my neighborhood is irrelevant as the only thing relevant is what happened in this situation.

In addition, the neighborhood guy should have never yelled at the driver and instead taken down the truck number and area and time and called Fed Ex so that they could handle it. Problem solved and all go home.

 

[dviss1]

Shoulda just kept driving...

 

[Hobbesarable]

Shoulda just kept driving...

This. No need to get in a confrontation with somebody yelling at you. If you are driving too fast, then slow down. If you are driving carefully and according to the law, then continue on safely.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I can't even read this site anymore. What the fuck is wrong with some of you people?

If only i could like this a million times....

I used to come here because i valued what i thought was informed and educated opinions.

 

[CupWizier]

Shoulda just kept driving...

There were several solutions to curb the problem and this is how I see it in the proper order

1) The person yelling could have taken down the truck number and called Fed Ex instead of yelling
2) The driver could have just kept going thus avoiding the confrontation
3) The person in the street shouldn't have attacked the driver by throwing a punch

These sort of issues happen on a daily basis and when it causes harm or death then it becomes even more regretful. I doubt either one wanted the outcome that happened.

 

[Chris Craig]

There were several solutions to curb the problem and this is how I see it in the proper order

1) The person yelling could have taken down the truck number and called Fed Ex instead of yelling
2) The driver could have just kept going thus avoiding the confrontation
3) The person in the street shouldn't have attacked the driver by throwing a punch

These sort of issues happen on a daily basis and when it causes harm or death then it becomes even more regretful. I doubt either one wanted the outcome that happened.

2 would be the best choice in this specific case. The guy was either propelled by deep seeded hate, mental illness, both, or other issues such as the current divisibe state of the country. It appears he was in such an irate place that his anger could not be calmed, he would not have the ability to calm himself or be calmed, thus thinking about taking down a licence plate number or not throwing a punch was not in this mans realm of reality.

 

[Natebishop3]

There were several solutions to curb the problem and this is how I see it in the proper order

1) The person yelling could have taken down the truck number and called Fed Ex instead of yelling
2) The driver could have just kept going thus avoiding the confrontation
3) The person in the street shouldn't have attacked the driver by throwing a punch

These sort of issues happen on a daily basis and when it causes harm or death then it becomes even more regretful. I doubt either one wanted the outcome that happened.

There's one key thing though, the driver was on the job and representing his company. You just simply don't engage someone in this scenario. Let them be angry and keep moving. People are assholes and it's best to just ignore them. It really sucks that he was put in this position in the first place, but the best thing would have been (as Dviss said) to keep driving.

 

[CupWizier]

There's one key thing though, the driver was on the job and representing his company. You just simply don't engage someone in this scenario. Let them be angry and keep moving. People are assholes and it's best to just ignore them. It really sucks that he was put in this position in the first place, but the best thing would have been (as Dviss said) to keep driving.

Oh there is no doubt HIS best option would have been to keep driving. The person in the neighborhoods best option would have been to just report the driver and then not to confront him when he got out. Plenty of bad judgment to go around.

 

[Natebishop3]

Oh there is no doubt HIS best option would have been to keep driving. The person in the neighborhoods best option would have been to just report the driver and then not to confront him when he got out. Plenty of bad judgment to go around.

Dude was homeless and I would bet money also mentally ill. Just not even worth it to engage.