FIBA Worlds thread (2 Viewers)

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[3RA1N1AC]

im sorry chris paul stole your girlfriend, but you should probably get over it

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Claver played 22 mins and got 11 rebounds. Maybe the coach will realize that when he's in, they do better. (He did in this game at least - only the Gasols played bigger minutes.)

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I see nothing that strikes me as a first ballot hall of famer. Borderline? Sure. First ballot? Not even close, there's no argument for it.

Based on his career to date, Basketball Reference has his current hall of fame probability calculated at 93.8%, 11th among active players, and 60th all time. Every player with a higher hall of fame probability calculation that is eligible for the hall of fame is in; every one that is not yet eligible is a no doubter.

At the age of 29.

He's been the dominant player at his position in his era. If he were to suffer a career-ending injury tomorrow, he'd be in. You don't have to like it, but you look silly to argue it.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

basically, he is penalized by that site for not having won a title thus far, and truthfully i hope he never does

but even without one he is a stone cold lock

 

[illmatic99]

I see nothing that strikes me as a first ballot hall of famer. Borderline? Sure. First ballot? Not even close, there's no argument for it.

uh What?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

me thinks he is practicing his trolling so he can be in midseason form for the opener! gotta put that work in in the offseason, and not just shoot 3 pointers and eat ice cream like LE_NAR_

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I see nothing that strikes me as a first ballot hall of famer. Borderline? Sure. First ballot? Not even close, there's no argument for it.

Anyone who says Chris paul is not a first ballot hall of gamer just can't accept reality.

 

[DUB]

Tell you how this COULD happen: an eccentric billionaire in somewhere like the Philippines (which already has Andray Blatche) decides to do this and gets quickie citizenships for them all.

Except FIBA only allows one naturalised player per team; if they didn't that's what everyone would already be doing.

 

[Strenuus]

lol. not trolling. just saying, he's not. He's really damn good, but I don't consider him a HOF. He hasn't impressed me as much as others, I guess.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

He hasn't impressed me as much as others, I guess.

do go on

 

[Strenuus]

do go on

That comment you quoted was meant as "you others" meaning other posters.

 

[jlprk]

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After he steps on the halfcourt line, I count 4 steps till he stuffs it.

 

[Boise Blazer]

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[Rastapopoulos]

PETTERI!!!

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(Finland is Team USA's next opponent. Or should I say, Koponen-t?)

 

[Boob-No-More]

PETTERI!!!

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(Finland is Team USA's next opponent. Or should I say, Koponen-t?)

Damn, you got me all excited for a second there. I thought he hit a game winning buzzer beater in a win over France, but even with that one handed heave, his team is still down 9 at the half and that one shot accounted for almost 10% of his team's first half scoring output.

I don't think Team USA has anything to worry about.

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Damn, you got me all excited for a second there.

This is what it will say on my grave stone.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Dennis Schröder looking very good for Germany. He was the guy I wanted most from the last draft. Which shows I shouldn't be GM because Antetokounmpo will be better, but will Schröder be better than CJ? Last year's draft is looking much better than people said, mostly because of non-US players.

 

[MickZagger]

Schroeder sucked when I watched him play last year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Schroeder sucked when I watched him play last year.

Now you've stopped watching him he's good. Can we get you to stop watching the Blazers too?

 

[Natebishop3]

Rasta I never understood your obsession with international players.


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[Natebishop3]

I can understand the leap that some people might make about Giannis Antetokounmpo. The guy is an insane athlete. He reminds me a bit of Darius Miles mixed with some Kevin Durant, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The guy is extremely raw. He has all the physical tools, but he's a project.

Last season he averaged 6.8 ppg, 4.4 rebounds, 1.9 assists on 41% shooting. That's not exactly setting the world on fire. He had a good summer league, 17 ppg, 5.8 boards, 46% shooting, but so did CJ (20 ppg, 3.2 boards, 48% shooting).

I think the reason why people are so excited about Antetokounmpo is the impressive dunks and the raw athleticism. People love potential. They look at CJ and they think, "that's probably about as good as we're going to see. Sure, he might polish his game a bit, but he's not going to be a superstar." But they look at Antetokounmpo and see the potential to be a star. Yes, that potential is there, but he could also just be another Darius Miles.

I like CJ. I think he's going to end up being a really good bench player for us. I don't know if he's starting material because of his height, but I think he could be a Rodney Stuckey / Jamal Crawford type guy. I hope he accepts that kind of role. Hopefully he works on his ball handling so he can log some spot minutes at point guard, otherwise it's going to be hard to find minutes for him with both Wes and Dame playing minutes at the two.

Also, while we're talking about Dennis Schroder, he logged 16 ppg, 4 boards, 3 assists, and an abysmal 40% from the field / 31% from behind the three point line.

 

[MickZagger]

Rasta I never understood your obsession with international players.


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He's still pissed we took Lillard over Festus Ezeli.

 

[Natebishop3]

He's still pissed we took Lillard over Festus Ezeli.

We could all use a little more Festivus.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

He's still pissed we took Lillard over Festus Ezeli.

That's a funny way to spell "Andre Drummond".

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Non-US players in the CJ draft first round in bold:

1. Cavaliers Anthony Bennett PF
2. Magic Victor Oladipo SG (Could also count: Mother is Nigerian and father is from Sierra Leone, so if he wanted he could probably play for either)
3. Wizards Otto Porter SF
4. Bobcats Cody Zeller PF
5. Suns Alex Len C
6. Pelicans Nerlens Noel C
7. Kings Ben McLemore SG
8. Pistons Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG
9. Timberwolves Trey Burke PG
10. Trail Blazers C.J. McCollum PG
11. 76ers Michael Carter-Williams PG
12. Thunder Steven Adams C
13. Mavericks Kelly Olynyk PF
14. Jazz Shabazz Muhammad SF
15. Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo SF
16. Celtics Lucas Nogueira C
17. Hawks Dennis Schroeder PG
18. Hawks Shane Larkin PG
19. Cavaliers Sergey Karasev SG
20. Bulls Tony Snell SF
21. Jazz Gorgui Dieng C
22. Nets Mason Plumlee C
23. Pacers Solomon Hill SF
24. Knicks Tim Hardaway Jr. SG
25. Clippers Reggie Bullock SG
26. Timberwolves Andre Roberson SF
27. Nuggets Rudy Gobert C
28. Spurs Livio Jean-Charles PF
29. Thunder Archie Goodwin SG
30. Suns Nemanja Nedovic SG

Now, there're certainly some stiffs in there (I don't rate the Canadians, for example, and Len isn't looking good (perhaps because Len is a Canadian band)) but I would be very excited to have a young bench lineup of Schroder, Antetokounmpo, and one or more of Adams, Dieng and Gobert. Karasev can shoot, but I dunno if he can play otherwise. Nogueira would be good if his knees aren't shot to hell.

And I think it should be clear that international players (other than Len and Bennett, who played for US college teams) were undervalued in that draft in favor of US stiffs like Cody Zeller, Otto Porter, Ben McLemore and Shabazz Muhammad. (I actually have a soft spot for Porter, but he's certainly on a slow curve.)

Of course, the best two players in the draft are almost certainly Oladipo and Noel, and if I had to take one player I would be very torn between Noel and Giannis, and if you could assure me that Noel would stay healthy, he'd be my choice. But that can't be! I'm obsessed with international players! I guess I'll have to find out if Noel has a granny from Burkina Faso or something.

 

[Natebishop3]

But that can't be! I'm obsessed with international players! I guess I'll have to find out if Noel has a granny from Burkina Faso or something.

Zags is obsessed with stiffs from Gonzaga. You're obsessed with stiffs from Europe. It's okay dude. We've all got our "things."

 

[Rastapopoulos]

France kicks Australia's ass!

Baynes has looked really good for Australia - every time I've looked he's been leading them in scoring. He may be a scrub but he works really hard. Is he on the Spurs' roster for next year or is he a FA?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Zags is obsessed with stiffs from Gonzaga. You're obsessed with stiffs from Europe. It's okay dude. We've all got our "things."

Thanks for the understanding, dude. You should be charging money for this keen psychological insight you're displaying.

 

[riverman]

Now that Dame is out I want to see Victor hit the buzzer beater from distance for the championship and Nic to be the high scorer against him for France.