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When USA plays France, Batum will be the best SF in the game...
 
I wonder if this means they'll keep one more of the three-headed white SF monster than they otherwise would've? And if that will affect Lillard's chances...
 
Forgot about Cousins. I thought he was cut already.


Bummer is I think this might increase the chance that Lillard gets cut, if the team asks Paul Millsap to come back on the team so they have more size, and/or they keep one of the on-the-bubble small forwards instead, so the overall team isn't too small.


Can you imagine if Mason Plumlee makes the team and Lillard gets cut. That would suck.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
spain could easily take this, wasnt durant going to play pf? is there who is starting now, faried?
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I think Spain and France are every bit as good as the USA team now. George and Durant both gone in a week. Is it too late to bring back Millsap?
 
NewsSource said:
I think Spain and France are every bit as good as the USA team now.
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Much as I'd like that to be true, it almost certainly isn't. Spain is closer on talent, but should lag behind, but they have much more experience playing as a team. France really only has two NBA talents, three if Gobert is for real. If Parker and Noah were playing, then things would be different...
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Much as I'd like that to be true, it almost certainly isn't. Spain is closer on talent, but should lag behind, but they have much more experience playing as a team. France really only has two NBA talents, three if Gobert is for real. If Parker and Noah were playing, then things would be different...
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I knew Parker wasn't playing, but didn't know it about Noah. Yeah, that makes a huge difference. Cancel France in my earlier opinion.
 
On the plus side for Lillard, the coaches should be a bit more hesitant to cut him now that Durant is out.


Look at the roster they have left. Who would you draw up a last shot for that you trust more than Lillard? There is nobody that is an MVP caliber guy that is the obvious call (ie. a Durant). There is nobody that is a solid star, that has proven time and again they will take and make big shots in big games. Instead there are options who have a mixed record with big shots - James Harden, and guys who have made a few big ones, Steph Curry, Rose, Lillard.


The team is not cutting Rose or Curry. So if they decide to carry 3 point guards, Lillard has to beat out Kyrie Irving.
 
Masbee said:
Lillard has to beat out Kyrie Irving.
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Two reasons why I think Irving is a lock, with Lillard needing to be a 4th as a combo.

1) Coach K and Duke
2) Irving is now a part of the "Big 3" in Cleveland. The NBA will want him marketed this fall for Team USA.

Also, Irving is a very good player, but in terms of actual NBA success, Lillard has the better resume in terms of team play, and also has a great individual resume.
 
I know Lillard wants to be in the World Cup, but there's too many things going against him. NBA wanting to market anything Cleveland, Coach K and all his pals... I hope Lillard doesn't make it. Get him more pissed and at the same time less wear on his legs.
 
I look at the roster and think these are the guys that need to make the team. How do you build around them? Rose, Curry, Irving, Lillard, Harden, Davis, Drummond.


I would go:


Rose/Irving/Lillard (they are a tossup. I pick Lillard. Coach K goes with Irving or keeps 4 PG's?)
Curry/DeRozan
Harden/Korver/Thompson
Parsons/Faried/
Davis/Drummond


need to go bigger, start Faried or Drummond.


Hayward (G), Plumlee (F) and Cousins (C) are out. But I would consider a swap DeRozan or Thompson for Hayward.
 
Masbee said:
I look at the roster and think these are the guys that need to make the team. How do you build around them? Rose, Curry, Irving, Lillard, Harden, Davis, Drummond.


I would go:


Rose/Irving/Lillard (they are a tossup. I pick Lillard. Coach K goes with Irving or keeps 4 PG's?)
Curry/DeRozan
Harden/Korver/Thompson
Parsons/Faried/
Davis/Drummond


need to go bigger, start Faried or Drummond.


Hayward (G), Plumlee (F) and Cousins (C) are out. But I would consider a swap DeRozan or Thompson for Hayward.
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Out of curiosity, why Drummond over Cousins?
 
Now Durant's gone, they need Lillard in case there's a last shot to win it.
 
Blocks and efficiency and attitude favor Drummond
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
Now Durant's gone, they need Lillard in case there's a last shot to win it.
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I kinda said that already.

But look at my roster. That team only has 3 bigs. If they get another big, can they keep 4 point guards? I don't think so.
 
i think boogie is a no brainer

in a couple ways
 
Masbee said:
Blocks and efficiency and attitude favor Drummond
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His FT shooting scares me, though. At least Cousins shoots FTs over 70%. Drummond is a 40% FT shooter. I do agree that attitude matters, but I have to think that if Cousins was showing a bad attitude, he'd already have been cut.
 
i think boogie would absolutely dominate inside if asked to, the problem is matchups with euro stretch 5s i guess?

maybe im in the minority though
 
Strenuus said:
I know Lillard wants to be in the World Cup, but there's too many things going against him. NBA wanting to market anything Cleveland, Coach K and all his pals... I hope Lillard doesn't make it. Get him more pissed and at the same time less wear on his legs.
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At this point with all the players they have lost, coach K is going to make the decision on who makes the team based on who he thinks will help him win. Nothing else IMO. He does not have the luxury of keeping a guy for marketing purposes. Neither he nor Colangelo cares about that. If they had a full roster then maybe, but not now.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i think boogie would absolutely dominate inside if asked to, the problem is matchups with euro stretch 5s i guess?

maybe im in the minority though
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I think Boogie is a lock, and should be. I'd start him and Davis against Spain, with Harden at SF, Curry at SG, and Lillard at PG (although it will be Rose at PG).
 
Pinwheel1 said:
At this point with all the players they have lost, coach K is going to make the decision on who makes the team based on who he thinks will help him win. Nothing else IMO. He does not have the luxury of keeping a guy for marketing purposes. Neither he nor Colangelo cares about that. If they had a full roster then maybe, but not now.
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It's not like Irving sucks, though. He's a very good player, and a high-profile player.

Now, if Mileson Plumlee makes it, then I'll be wondering.
 
So ... I'm wondering where the media outrage is about Durant pulling out of Team USA after taking a roster spot. He is the reigning NBA MVP, and while I do understand why he would want to get rest, and also take into account his contract expiring in two years, couldn't he have made that decision prior to being the focal point of the USA offense for the last 3 weeks?

If Kobe Bryant or LeBron James had done this, they'd be bashed. Meanwhile, Durant kind of gets to do and say whatever he wants (remember his "tough shit" comment, for example) and he's never criticized.
 
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Why didn't he make his decision before the cuts of Millsap, Wall, and Beal were announced?
 
Strenuus said:
He's an arrogant ahole! :MARIS61: He's lied this entire time!!!
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He recommitted to the team last weekend after Paul George got hurt. Cuts were then made, including Paul Millsap, because Durant was going to play the 4 the overwhelming majority of the minutes.

It's a punk move, and he deserves to be criticized for it. Why even go to camp, or why not withdraw before cuts were made. If Coach K pulls back anybody he has cut at this point, he's lost the team, regardless of injury.
 
Guys don't forget Durant isn't the real MVP, he probably didn't make the choice.
 
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