Final Blockbuster

[Joey FistPump]

The Cleveland Cavaliers appear to have beaten the NBA's annual trade buzzer to get LeBron James some of the fresh help he's been openly craving.



In a three-way, 11-player trade with Chicago and Seattle that has been submitted for league approval, NBA front-office sources say that Cleveland will come away with four new teammates for James, headlined by Ben Wallace from the Bulls and sharpshooter Wally Szczerbiak from the Sonics.



The league office was notified of the deal before Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trading deadline, sources said, and is currently reviewing the trade details as required for formal approval.



After Cleveland watched two longstanding trade targets land elsewhere -- Mike Bibby in Atlanta and Jason Kidd in Dallas -- sources say that the deal calls for the Cavaliers to receive Wallace, Szczerbiak, Seattle point guard Delonte West, Chicago's Joe Smith and a future second-round pick from the Bulls.



The Bulls, apparently abandoning their gamble on Wallace less than two seasons into the lucrative four-year deal they used to sign him away from Detroit, would get Cavaliers forward Drew Gooden and swingman Larry Hughes along with Cavs reserves Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown.



The Sonics, shedding Szczerbiak in the name of additional payroll flexibility, come away with the expiring contracts of Cleveland's Ira Newble and Chicago's Adrian Griffin as well as Cavs veteran Donyell Marshall.

Source.

Cleveland may have just gotten alot better.

 

[giantcuseman]

Interesting move by Cleveland, IMO Wallace is on the decline. I can't recall him doing much against us yesterday? They gave up a lot to get a lot. I think getting Wally and Delonte can be worthwhile.

 

[Netted]

I've heard varying reports of Delonte being in this and others where he went to Denver.

 

[Black Republican]

You got me excited for nothing

 

[go nets]

when u analyze this trade for the cavs, it actually makes things harder for lebron

hughes is a scorer and could take pressure off of james at times when they needed a bucket.

gooden was also a pretty good scorer in the paint and a good rebounder

they just gave up those 2 guys for ben wallace who cant score if his life depended on it and is really not goin to help james on the offensive end of the ball

wally is just a shooter which was useless to get when u have the best young shooter in the game already in Daniel Gibson

they just made a move to make a move. ben wallace isnt goin to help them, they were already a good defensive team and they didnt need wallace.

i actually think this makes the bulls better

they needed some1 who was goin to have an impact on the offensive end to help LJ, i actually think the cavs took a step back by making this move

 

[Kidd Karma]

I think a lot depends on the system. Wallace can't be the focal point of the defense. Those Detroit teams all were good to excellent man to man defenders. It helps to block shots when ball handlers are off balance. I think if Cleveland uses him right, he will be back....Brown is a defensive coach and after a slow start, they've picked it up defensively. Wallace will help lessen the rebound load from LBJ. IT's a good trade if the pieces can develop together quickly, if Wally comes in firing and Wallace the back bone of the defense with Z taking the best post offensive player and Wallace play free safety in a sense.

 

[playaofthegame]

How does this relate to the Nets AT ALL?

 

[go nets]

the games will tell how much better the cavs got but i honestly feel they stayed the same.

i believe chicago will benefit from this and see improvement

hinrich/gordon
hughes/sefolosha
deng/nocioni
gooden/noah
Thomas/ gray

idk who will play center for them but that looks like a good squad to me better than the one they had before

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does this relate to the Nets AT ALL?</div>
Does it matter? It's trade day and it's basketball.

 

[giantcuseman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does this relate to the Nets AT ALL?</div>


The Cavaliers are in the Eastern Conference correct? This is why we are discussing the trade...

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does this relate to the Nets AT ALL?</div>
why post a NBA trade in a forum that discusses basketball? silly thread

 

[Joey FistPump]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does this relate to the Nets AT ALL?</div>
I know that we're only supposed to discuss the Nets in the Nets forum however I think it's kind've ridiculous that on a trading deadline day that a thread about an a blockbuster gets moved to the OT forum...

In my opinon an OT forum is for threads totally unrelated to the forums topic...such as personal news, questions about outside events and other such things...

I'm just saying that maybe the OT forum would be better utilized as a place where people can talk Music, Movies, TV, Life Stuff, Questions, Concerns and other truly off topic material...

trades, deadline information and stuff like that should be allowed on the main board...just my opinion.

 

[playaofthegame]

Isn't that what the REGULAR off topic forums are for? Why do the Nets fans have to have their own "little community"?

The trade wasn't disccused once, twice, but three times in the Nets forum. That's absolutely ridiculous considering the Nets weren't involved in this trade in the least bit.

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't that what the REGULAR off topic forums are for? Why do the Nets fans have to have their own "little community"?

The trade wasn't disccused once, twice, but three times in the Nets forum. That's absolutely ridiculous considering the Nets weren't involved in this trade in the least bit.</div>

Yo Boston fan... nobody cares what your opinion is on our community.

Now if it offends you that much what we choose to dicuss, dont click on the link, go read some Celtic related news or something... I dont care.

Just dont come here for an arguement. You will be ignored.

We are one of the most active communties at sportstwo and we maintain that by talking about almost anything, even NBA news that doesnt directly involve our team.

Thankyou for your time and input.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't that what the REGULAR off topic forums are for? Why do the Nets fans have to have their own "little community"?

The trade wasn't disccused once, twice, but three times in the Nets forum. That's absolutely ridiculous considering the Nets weren't involved in this trade in the least bit.</div>

Wtf is this about? Are you jealous or something?

Seriously, I have no clue where this is coming from.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Feb 21 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't that what the REGULAR off topic forums are for? Why do the Nets fans have to have their own "little community"?

The trade wasn't disccused once, twice, but three times in the Nets forum. That's absolutely ridiculous considering the Nets weren't involved in this trade in the least bit.</div>

Yo Boston fan... nobody cares what your opinion is on our community.

Now if it offends you that much what we choose to dicuss, dont click on the link, go read some Celtic related news or something... I dont care.

Just dont come here for an arguement. You will be ignored.

We are one of the most active communties at sportstwo and we maintain that by talking about almost anything, even NBA news that doesnt directly involve our team.

Thankyou for your time and input.

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listen to my man, downunder.

he may be aussie, but he's droppin knowledge.

 

[playaofthegame]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Feb 22 2008, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't that what the REGULAR off topic forums are for? Why do the Nets fans have to have their own "little community"?

The trade wasn't disccused once, twice, but three times in the Nets forum. That's absolutely ridiculous considering the Nets weren't involved in this trade in the least bit.</div>

Wtf is this about? Are you jealous or something?

Seriously, I have no clue where this is coming from.
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Jealous? Far from it. I just think that there's no point in having separate team forums if Nets fans are just going to post topics that don't in the least bit relate to the New Jersey Nets or Nets Basketball. Keep in mind, this post was in the main Nets board, not the OT forum originally. The OT forum is fine but don't post the thread once in the OT forum, again on the main Nets board, again in the NBA general section and another thread or two in the Nets main board or off topic. That's ridiculous, unneccesary and confusing.

 

[NJNetz]

I'm not taking anyones side here, but threads like these should go to their proper forums. Not because I mind them being here, but that way, we can spread out the activity at S2. Then we won't have so many dead forums.

 

[Master Shake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 22 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not taking anyones side here, but threads like these should go to their proper forums. Not because I mind them being here, but that way, we can spread out the activity at S2. Then we won't have so many dead forums.</div>

Listen to my man Joker here.

He may be Russian, but he knows what's good.

 

[Joey FistPump]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 22 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 22 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not taking anyones side here, but threads like these should go to their proper forums. Not because I mind them being here, but that way, we can spread out the activity at S2. Then we won't have so many dead forums.</div>

Listen to my man Joker here.

He may be Russian, but he knows what's good.
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The only way to get activity in some of the other boards is to develop a connection with other teams websites...I found my way here via Netsdaily...I found Netsdaily from a friend at the espn Nets board...

Personally I think fans will come here and post...they just need to be alerted to it's existence...

 

[playaofthegame]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Feb 22 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 22 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 22 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not taking anyones side here, but threads like these should go to their proper forums. Not because I mind them being here, but that way, we can spread out the activity at S2. Then we won't have so many dead forums.</div>

Listen to my man Joker here.

He may be Russian, but he knows what's good.
</div>
The only way to get activity in some of the other boards is to develop a connection with other teams websites...I found my way here via Netsdaily...I found Netsdaily from a friend at the espn Nets board...

Personally I think fans will come here and post...they just need to be alerted to it's existence...
</div>

It's impossible to get people to leave one site to come to another. If you tell anybody about Site A, Site B classifies it as "Spam" and the promotion is hidden away from everybody. Plus if the Supersonics forum is dead, why would a Sonics fan want to come post here when nobody on the site is interested in posting there.

If you want to get new members then you have to balance out the posts and contribute to the activity of those dead team forums. Then you go get new members. You can't post everything in the Nets forum. Branch out to the other boards a bit and you might learn a bit about other teams and get a connection with them. The amount of unrelated or redundant threads in the Nets forum probably outweighs the threads from the intelligent posters that work hard to get some real Nets discussion going, that is relevent to the team. That's the problem. I have no problem with Nets fans, ou guys have a good fanbase and are clearly the strongest fanbase on S2, can you guys just tone it down a bit with the unrelated posts in the Nets forum or unneccesary posts and branch out to the other team forums or even NBA general to discuss. I don't see how you guys have to be a "community" when S2 is a community that has more dimensions and gives you the views from every angle rather than just the Nets fans P.O.V.

 

[Master Shake]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 22 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Feb 22 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 22 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 22 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not taking anyones side here, but threads like these should go to their proper forums. Not because I mind them being here, but that way, we can spread out the activity at S2. Then we won't have so many dead forums.</div>

Listen to my man Joker here.

He may be Russian, but he knows what's good.
</div>
The only way to get activity in some of the other boards is to develop a connection with other teams websites...I found my way here via Netsdaily...I found Netsdaily from a friend at the espn Nets board...

Personally I think fans will come here and post...they just need to be alerted to it's existence...
</div>

It's impossible to get people to leave one site to come to another. If you tell anybody about Site A, Site B classifies it as "Spam" and the promotion is hidden away from everybody. Plus if the Supersonics forum is dead, why would a Sonics fan want to come post here when nobody on the site is interested in posting there.

If you want to get new members then you have to balance out the posts and contribute to the activity of those dead team forums. Then you go get new members. You can't post everything in the Nets forum. Branch out to the other boards a bit and you might learn a bit about other teams and get a connection with them. The amount of unrelated or redundant threads in the Nets forum probably outweighs the threads from the intelligent posters that work hard to get some real Nets discussion going, that is relevent to the team. That's the problem. I have no problem with Nets fans, ou guys have a good fanbase and are clearly the strongest fanbase on S2, can you guys just tone it down a bit with the unrelated posts in the Nets forum or unneccesary posts and branch out to the other team forums or even NBA general to discuss. I don't see how you guys have to be a "community" when S2 is a community that has more dimensions and gives you the views from every angle rather than just the Nets fans P.O.V.
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Bingo. I think talk like this, should be spread out.

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Feb 22 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see how you guys have to be a "community" when S2 is a community that has more dimensions and gives you the views from every angle rather than just the Nets fans P.O.V.</div>

See now you are showing how little you know about this 'community' so allow me to explain. This will clarify our standpoint and hopefully show you why we do what we do, since I'll agree, it is a little odd.

A whole bunch of us (KC, Dumpy, Petey, Ghoti, cpaw, et al) have been posting on and off in the same forums for years. Over that time (from my perspective) you get to know these dudes and actually want their opinions. Its not an elitist thing at all but there gets to a point where "Gerald Green is the BeSt DuNkEr in the league" crap gets really annoying (that was just an example, Im mainly talking about the younger primarily sportscentre/and1 type fans). Thankfully since my switch to S2 there isnt too much of that, but after a while one starts to question... "I have a good thing going here, why fix what aint broke?"

Me personally I post here since I know any news I need to know, Netincome is already got it on lock. Any statistical or CBA stuff I dont immediately get, Dumpy and Ghoti will make it easier to digest and so on... The community is a little inward, granted, but it is a contributing reason to why I make to time to post on these boards instead of going to the beach more and chasing women... hahaha

I see where you are coming from but I hope this clarifys a netsfan pespective...

 

[GMJ]

It's not the posters' job to build up conversations around the site. It's my opinion that they shouldn't feel obligated to improve the size of another team thread, or anywhere really. The only stand I'll make is that for the sake of organization, if a thread isn't about the Nets, I'll move it to the Nets OT. Not because I don't think that general basketball talk can't be done so within this group (I, like downunder, have posted with this group for about 2 years), but by technicalities: If it's not about the Nets, then its technically off-topic (duh haha). Still, I don't see why anyone should be stopped from talking about whatever, whenever. If I wanna ask the usual Nets crowd what they think about NBA matters not pertaining about the Nets I should be able to do so; in the Nets folder but organized to keep Nets issues separated (since that's primarily what we're all here for).

 

[playaofthegame]

I see where you guys are coming from now. It would just be better for me as an outsider coming into the forum to read and discuss the Nets, for the threads in the Nets board to be strictly Nets discussion.

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 22 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's not the posters' job to build up conversations around the site. It's my opinion that they shouldn't feel obligated to improve the size of another team thread, or anywhere really. The only stand I'll make is that for the sake of organization, if a thread isn't about the Nets, I'll move it to the Nets OT. Not because I don't think that general basketball talk can't be done so within this group (I, like downunder, have posted with this group for about 2 years), but by technicalities: If it's not about the Nets, then its technically off-topic (duh haha). Still, I don't see why anyone should be stopped from talking about whatever, whenever. If I wanna ask the usual Nets crowd what they think about NBA matters not pertaining about the Nets I should be able to do so; in the Nets folder but organized to keep Nets issues separated (since that's primarily what we're all here for).</div>

Exactly Jigga... I doubt the others will ever "get it" though will they...

Im here because Petey left BBF and that started a mass evacuation. I mean isnt that a testament to our "comunity" that we all, for lack of a better term, stuck together?

playaofthegame, you either get it or you dont. We are the way we are.

 

[GMJ]

I'm here because Petey has topless photos of me and said that if I didn't come over he'd make sure they became the new Nets Daily banner

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 22 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm here because Petey has topless photos of me and said that if I didn't come over he'd make sure they became the new Nets Daily banner</div>

ROTFLMAO!

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 22 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm here because Petey has topless photos of me and said that if I didn't come over he'd make sure they became the new Nets Daily banner</div>

KC got a copy of my pics. I swear, I don't know how. The guy said it would just be between me, him, and playgirl.