Finding another Nurkic

[Fez Hammersticks]

The idea is simple:

*Young player who plays behind another young player who's producing at a high level (Tobias)
*Has fallen out of the rotation and/or just doesn't fit their current system

My preference: Stanley Johnson

His playing time has dropped and his FGA have been chopped in half. They were listening to offers for him at the deadline - even though his stats are horrid he would likely still cost a lot.

Thoughts?

 

[BonesJones]

The thing with Nurkic was that he showed flashes of defense, low post scoring, and passing.

This dude hasn't shown anything. He wouldn't even get PT over Crabbe and Turner.

 

[MickZagger]

The idea is simple:

*Young player who plays behind another young player who's producing at a high level (Tobias)
*Has fallen out of the rotation and/or just doesn't fit their current system

My preference: Stanley Johnson

His playing time has dropped and his FGA have been chopped in half. They were listening to offers for him at the deadline - even though his stats are horrid he would likely still cost a lot.

Thoughts?

I'm down for that. That's how we got Rasheed.

I was hyping Johnson non stop during his draft. I honestly think in the right system he could become a less-headcase version of Ron Artest.

 

[Scalma]

I like Johnson, but not sure where he would fit. We have enough defensive minded wings that can't shoot.

 

[Scalma]

With cousins/AD front court in New Orleans, maybe we can sneak in and take cheick Diallo of their hands. Love him. Would legit trade the Cleveland pick.

 

[Mediocre Man]

This is like that old Steve Martin bit about how to be a millionaire.

"First, get a million dollars"

 

[Mediocre Man]

Nerlens Noel for jack squat would have done that

 

[Mediocre Man]

I like Johnson, but not sure where he would fit. We have enough defensive minded wings that can't shoot.

We have 1.

What we have is too many offensive minded players who won't play defense.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Hezonja seems like a guy who has a ton of talent that isn't getting much court time.

 

[illmatic99]

Hezonja seems like a guy who has a ton of talent that isn't getting much court time.

Hezonja was my first thought. Brought him up before the deadline.

 

[TBpup]

Nerlens Noel for jack squat would have done that

Since joining the Mavs:

FG% - .601
FT% - .667
10 points, 8.7 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 24 MPG.

Not bad.

 

[handiman]

We need a dynamic wing. Indiana always seems to have (Granger/George) or give away (Kawhi) one. We just need to figure out how to de-Pritchard them first so they'll make a deal with us.

 

[RR7]

This seems basically like what we did to acquire Harkless and Vonleh, no? I think Vonleh needs to be force-fed more minutes alongside Nurkic, because he seems like a good fit next to him potentially.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I was hyping Stanley as well pre-draft, but that was based on our needs at the time (Losing Nic)
he is 6'5" (w/0 shoes) and 242. We already have ET and Harkless. Even Crabbe has a longer standing reach.

I guess if we traded with Detroit and sent a bad contract (ET or Crabbe) he might be worth a shot. Even though he shoots 30% from deep it looked good against us. (shocker) Can he guard the perimeter? You put Harkless and Johnson at SF and draft that shooter at the PF spot that we are currently in need of.....it may work.

 

[illmatic99]

Since joining the Mavs:

FG% - .601
FT% - .667
10 points, 8.7 rebounds, 1.3 blocks in 24 MPG.

Not bad.

And Philly lost Embiid for the season, and is current re-evaluating Okafor's knee.

Ouch.

 

[Troy.Ave]

Nerlens Noel for jack squat would have done that

Get off his nuts man we got Nurkic. You have to choose either one. We chose Nurkic. Plus Noel is a Free agent this summer who will most likely command close to max money to retain him.

Then guess what, Nurkic is a free agent next summer that will command close to max money to retain him (if he continues to play like this).

So you want to pay max money to 2 centers in which one would have to be a backup? Plus obviously Lillard and Cj would also be max players? lol this ain't NBA 2k

 

[Mediocre Man]

Get off his nuts man we got Nurkic. You have to choose either one. We chose Nurkic. Plus Noel is a Free agent this summer who will most likely command close to max money to retain him.

Then guess what, Nurkic is a free agent next summer that will command close to max money to retain him (if he continues to play like this).

So you want to pay max money to 2 centers in which one would have to be a backup? Plus obviously Lillard and Cj would also be max players? lol this ain't NBA 2k

Why did we have to choose either one? Noel and Nurk would have played well together, or appear to be able to.

RFA = Bird rights, doesn't it? Would we not have got those?

 

[Troy.Ave]

Why did we have to choose either one? Noel and Nurk would have played well together, or appear to be able to.

RFA = Bird rights, doesn't it? Would we not have got those?

Embiid and Noel couldn't even play together hence why one was traded. You can't play two true centers at the same time. The spacing and shit would be fucked. Sixers tried that already.

Yes we would have bird rights but that's not smart financially bc we would be hit heavily with the penalty tax for something that's not even going to work.

 

[Scalma]

Yeah while defensively Noel could probably guard most power forwards, offensively it would be a disaster. There would be no space for Nurkic to operate with Noel clogging things up. Aminu is really a better fit next to Nurkic than Noel would've been.

The ideal player to compliment Nurk is a guy that is a good help defender, rebounder, can guard the perimeter, and can shoot. I'd actually be fine with Aminu if he found any sort of consistency with his shot. Shouldn't stop us from finding an upgrade though.

I haven't even gotten into the money. I wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn went after Noel hard in the offseason, possibly even throwing the max at him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not looking at any player in particular, I did a quick query on basketball reference for forwards that might fit this "another Nurkic" mold. Specifically sought players in their 20's 6'9" or taller with TRB% of 15 or higher, shooting at least 35% from 3 but playing less than 24 mpg this year. Got only 3 results, one of whom is already on our squad.



So, uh...what are the chances that Bobby Portis is available? Seems like he's the best of the bunch by a long shot.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

One guy I'd really love to get is Kyle Anderson. 3 years in Pop's system, you know he's learned how to play the right way, and stuck behind Kawhi, he's not going to get the opportunity to shine that he probably deserves. However, he's cheap and effective, so I don't see the Spurs giving him up easily.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I can't believe Troy Williams was available just now and we didn't sign him.
I remember him playing very good defense against us.
Like Aminu on a much cheaper contract.





Fuck the Rockets.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I can't believe Troy Williams was available just now and we didn't sign him.
I remember him playing very good defense against us.
Like Aminu on a much cheaper contract.





Fuck the Rockets.

It's ok. We got Nurkic, and Olshey shouldn't be expected to do more

 

[Troy.Ave]

Not looking at any player in particular, I did a quick query on basketball reference for forwards that might fit this "another Nurkic" mold. Specifically sought players in their 20's 6'9" or taller with TRB% of 15 or higher, shooting at least 35% from 3 but playing less than 24 mpg this year. Got only 3 results, one of whom is already on our squad.

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So, uh...what are the chances that Bobby Portis is available? Seems like he's the best of the bunch by a long shot.

Bulls are really high on Portis as they should be. He's going to be really good in this league and Bulls trading Gibson will open up a lot of time for him to show the Bulls in the trust they have for him.

 

[Nate]

Not looking at any player in particular, I did a quick query on basketball reference for forwards that might fit this "another Nurkic" mold. Specifically sought players in their 20's 6'9" or taller with TRB% of 15 or higher, shooting at least 35% from 3 but playing less than 24 mpg this year. Got only 3 results, one of whom is already on our squad.

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So, uh...what are the chances that Bobby Portis is available? Seems like he's the best of the bunch by a long shot.

I really like bobby portis. Knowing tater totts though, his potential would be completely wasted here.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Bulls are really high on Portis as they should be. He's going to be really good in this league and Bulls trading Gibson will open up a lot of time for him to show the Bulls in the trust they have for him.

Yeah, I wasn't really asking that seriously. I'd be shocked if Portis (or Anderson for that matter) were made available.

Interesting to me that Noah showed up in my query. Gives me hope that maybe he really is the PF we're looking for.

Yes, I'm easily self-deluded.

 

[BonesJones]

Not looking at any player in particular, I did a quick query on basketball reference for forwards that might fit this "another Nurkic" mold. Specifically sought players in their 20's 6'9" or taller with TRB% of 15 or higher, shooting at least 35% from 3 but playing less than 24 mpg this year. Got only 3 results, one of whom is already on our squad.

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So, uh...what are the chances that Bobby Portis is available? Seems like he's the best of the bunch by a long shot.

He was my darkhorse for most improved player this year. Dude is a beast.

 

[handiman]

Interesting to me that Noah showed up in my query. Gives me hope that maybe he really is the PF we're looking for.

In the spirit of the thread, doesn't that mean he's stuck playing behind himself?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

In the spirit of the thread, doesn't that mean he's stuck playing behind himself?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

BOBAN!!!!!!