Politics First Charges filed in Mueller Investigation

[julius]

PANIC TIME!

funny how it took less than a year to find dirt on Manafort and others (and potentially Trump) yet in the 30 years she's been in the public eye, nothing has been found on her.

 

[Denny Crane]

funny how it took less than a year to find dirt on Manafort and others (and potentially Trump) yet in the 30 years she's been in the public eye, nothing has been found on her.

That's simply not true.

 

[julius]

That's simply not true.

I guess I missed when she was indicted.

 

[Denny Crane]

I guess I missed when she was indicted.

So OJ is innocent. He wasn't found guilty of murder.

We all know he did it, tho.

This is true of Clinton.

Racketeering is very hard to prove.

 

[julius]

So OJ is innocent. He wasn't found guilty of murder.

We all know he did it, tho.

This is true of Clinton.

Racketeering is very hard to prove.

Remember that thing I said about fallacies and how people who use them are the ones who are losing the argument?

C.I.P.

 

[Denny Crane]

Remember that thing I said about fallacies and how people who use them are the ones who are losing the argument?

C.I.P.

Or you can bury your head in the sand and ignore decades of evidence.

 

[julius]

Or you can bury your head in the sand and ignore decades of evidence.

this is kind of a pick your own adventure response.

A: mountain of evidence? Uh uh...

or

B: Are you talking about yourself here?

 

[illmatic99]

Or you can bury your head in the sand and ignore decades of evidence.

um pot kettle

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!

 

[Chris Craig]

Hillary isn't the president. Trump is. And the captain will go down with his ship whether he likes it or not

 

[Chris Craig]

Who wants to bet Paul is singing right now

 

[Denny Crane]

this is kind of a pick your own adventure response.

A: mountain of evidence? Uh uh...

or

B: Are you talking about yourself here?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...adee48be8bc_story.html?utm_term=.09aa5d092ff2

Rosenzweig said he had concluded in 1998 that seating a jury untainted by political bias was going to be so difficult as to make the chances for a conviction too low to proceed ethically with the case.

“This case was, for me, decided on factors external to guilt or innocence,” he said. “I think this case would have had a great chance of a sustained conviction if presented to 12 random people, about someone other than Mrs. Clinton. But that’s an impossible hypothetical.”

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Gormley wrote that prosecutors and FBI agents met to consider the matter at 8 a.m. on Monday, April 27, 1998, in a session that lasted until nearly midnight. The prosecutor who had led a four-year investigation of Hillary Clinton’s activities with the Rose Law Firm spent hours laying out for his colleagues the case that she had had more involvement in work that had facilitated illicit activity for Madison Guaranty and a troubled real estate project called Castle Grande than she had acknowledged.

Prosecutors discussed one of the more dramatic moments of the Whitewater era: the unexpected discovery of billing records from Clinton’s time as an attorney in a storage room on the third floor of the White House residence .

The records had been missing for two years, and White House aides had said they could not be located, even after an exhaustive search, in response to a subpoena.

The records had been found in 1996 by Hillary Clinton’s executive assistant, on a table in a room adjacent to Clinton’s office. Clinton had told Barbara Walters in a televised interview that she was glad the records had surfaced, and she chalked their disappearance up to a White House crammed with millions of pages of disorganized documents. “You know, a month ago, people were jumping up and down because the billing records were lost and they thought somebody might have destroyed them. Now the records are found, and they’re jumping up and down,” Clinton said.

Starr’s team suspected that Clinton might have orchestrated the mysterious reappearance of the documents.

“There is a circumstantial case that the records were left on the table by Hillary Clinton,” the prosecutors wrote. The memo described how the lawyers had interviewed everyone else with access to the room where the records were found, then concluded: “She is the only individual in the White House who had a significant interest in them.”

Later in 1998, Starr told Congress that the discovery of the billing records was a “mystery” that his investigators had been unable to solve.

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That differs from the Starr prosecutors, who specifically weighed how her celebrity and political popularity might affect the jury in a criminal trial, Rosenzweig said. He said he does not think that Clinton personally has been afforded special treatment, now or in the 1990s — a charge often leveled by Republicans. But he said he thinks her case illustrates the way elites are generally treated differently in the justice system. “Our justice system is great — but it is imperfect,” he said.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

"No indictment against Trump proves that he didn't collude with Russia."

"No indictment against Hillary proves that she is guilty."

 

[riverman]

I predicted Mannafort would be found guilty of money laundering and tax evasion through his Cypress dealings many threads ago.....I have no doubt more money laundering scams and tax evasions will come to light out of this and some big names are probably going to surface...the investigation is to find out how Russians tried to fuck with us.....the swamp draining thing is still clogged. Don't be surprised to see Donald Jr or Jared Kushner spill out of the drain...sort of shed's some light on Donald not releasing his tax return info since the campaign. I don't care how long Mannafort has been cheating but it does shed some light on Trump's lack of vetting for people he brings into his circle......seems the orange one has a poor sense of character..probably because of being surrounded by a giant wall of mirrors....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Putin wanted to meet with Trump, lol.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fox News "expert" is saying that Manafort was a paid spy by Hillary Clinton and George Soros.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Let's review:

Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein - Hillary Clinton spy.

Mueller - Hillary Clinton spy.

Manafort - Hillary Clinton spy.

 

[riverman]

So OJ is innocent. He wasn't found guilty of murder.

Look! A squirrel!!!!

 

[theprunetang]

Putin wanted to meet with Trump, lol.

This is not going to end well for Trump.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Fox News "expert" is saying that Manafort was a paid spy by Hillary Clinton and George Soros.

I'll tell you something about that Soros guy, he's a fucking DEAD BEAT. Never pays his bills. I know a lot of people still anxiously awaiting their protest checks. Manafort is probably PISSED. I'm guessing he was never compensated, either. Fuck SOROS!!!!

 

[riverman]

I'll tell you something about that Soros guy, he's a fucking DEAD BEAT. Never pays his bills. I know a lot of people still anxiously awaiting their protest checks. Manafort is probably PISSED. I'm guessing he was never compensated, either. Fuck SOROS!!!!

Soros is a vulture....loves war and disaster because he can buy property for nothing .....Soros and Murdock are two of a kind

 

[theprunetang]

Denny has been very quiet this morning. Interesting........

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The timeline is so very interesting.

The interview where Papadopolous lied to the FBI happened on Jan 27th

Later that afternoon Trump called Comey personally to invite him to a private dinner where the President asked Comey for a loyalty pledge.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

From the Papadopoulos plea:

PAPADOPOULOS claimed his interactions with an overseas professor, whom PAPADOPOULOS understood to have substantial connections to Russian Gvt. officials, occurred before PAPADOPOULOS became a foreign policy advisor to the Campaign. PAPADOPOULOS acknowledged that the professor had told him that the Russians possessed “dirt” on then-candidate Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails,” but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the campaign.

In truth and fact, however, PAPADOPOULOS learned he would be an advisor to the Campaign in early March, and met the professor on or about March 14, 2016; the professor only took an interest in PAPADOPOULOS because of his status on the campaign; and the professor told PAPADOPOULOS about the “thousands of emails” on or about April 26, 2016, when PAPADOPOULOS had been a foreign policy advisor to the campaign for over a month.​

 

[Further]

I need popcorn

 

[barfo]

It was "Professor" Putin! With the "lead pipe", in the "conservatory"!

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Denny has been very quiet this morning. Interesting........

The indictment was expected. No surprises here, and not even a hint of collusion still.

 

[barfo]

The indictment was expected. No surprises here, and not even a hint of collusion still.

You were expecting Papadopoulos?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

You were expecting Papadopoulos?

barfo

Never heard of him.

 

[Denny Crane]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/george-papadopoulos/544346/

As with many Trump campaign workers, Papadopoulos brought scant experience to the table. He was unusually young for his role, having only graduated in 2009, and had few foreign-policy credentials: He listed participation in a Model UN as one on his resume. He had previously worked for Ben Carson’s GOP presidential campaign.

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Yet Papadopoulos is hardly a big fish. The Post report shows that Trump campaign officials eyed his contacts with Russia with discomfort and skepticism, and aides with more obvious potential channels to the Kremlin—in particular Manafort—waved them off. It’s also difficult to tell how seriously to take the Russians with whom he was in contact: The Russian female was apparently lying about her blood ties to Putin, while it’s unclear what the Professor’s links were, or whether the supposed Ministry of Foreign Affairs source really was one.