First S2 NBA GM Draft Discussion Thread

[Денг Гордон]

Not a big fan of the Grizzlies. I can't see a team led by Wallace and Kiriliekno winning many games. I find them to be some of the most overrated defenders in the league.....stat stuffers (especially Gerald Wallace).

 

[Денг Гордон]

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</td> <td colspan="3"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <span class="yspsctnhdln">Andrei Kirilenko</span> #47 | Forward | Utah Jazz</td> <td class="yspgens" align="right"></td></tr></tbody></table> </td> </tr> <tr valign="middle"> <td> <span class="yspgens"> Height: 6-9 Weight: 227 Born: Feb 18, 1981 - Moscow, USSR College: None Draft: 1999 - 1st round (24th pick) by the Utah Jazz </span> </td> <td align="right"> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="yspwhitebg"> <tbody><tr> <td class="yspdetailttl" width="60" align="center" style="border-right: 1px solid #f4f5f1; padding: 7px 0pt; background: #e2e2e2 none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial">Pts</td><td class="yspdetailttl" width="60" align="center" style="border-right: 1px solid #f4f5f1; padding: 7px 0pt; background: #e2e2e2 none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial">Reb</td><td class="yspdetailttl padded3px" width="60" align="center" style="background: #e2e2e2 none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial">Ast</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" style="border-right: 1px solid #f4f5f1"><div class="yspleadhdln" style="border: 1px solid #e2e2e2; padding: 6px 0pt">8.3</div></td><td align="center" style="border-right: 1px solid #f4f5f1"><div class="yspleadhdln" style="border: 1px solid #e2e2e2; padding: 6px 0pt">4.7</div></td><td align="center"><div class="yspleadhdln" style="border: 1px solid #e2e2e2; padding: 6px 0pt">2.9</div></td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td width="95" align="center"></td></tr></tbody></table></p>

Ouch.... </p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'>I am shocked by some of the players left late in the second round. Not because I think they should have already been taken, but because, with the exception of KC and some others, we'd all make better GM's than most of the ones out there.</div></p>

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[Kid Chocolate]

Wallace & Kirilenko is redundant.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

Wallace and Kirilenko is redundant.

 

[Denny Crane]

Saying "Wallace and Kirilenko is redundant" is redundant.</p>

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[Kid Chocolate]

[quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate']

I hate Iguodola.</p>

So overrated. </p>

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Yes, but it was thanks to that same overratedness that the sixers went 20-16 in the games he played in after AI left. </p>

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That's what happens when you are the only crappy team not tanking. False hope.</p>

<font color="#ffffff">Thanks ghoti</font> </p>

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True, most teams did start tanking with 40 games left. </p>

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Most of the 76ers success was finally ridding themselves of AI, gaining a legit PF in Joe Smith (they literally had no-one before that...Steven Hunter? wtf?), and finally getting a PG who could run the offense in Andre Miller. Iguodola also benefited from Miller who throws the best lobs in the league, seeing as though Iggy can jump out the gym. He's INCREDIBLY overrated as a defender, too. He also averaged damn near 4 turnovers per game. </p>

 

[GrandKenyon6]

That is true.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Looking to move my 3rd and 5th round picks fora late 2nd along with a later round draft pick.

 

[ghoti]

[quote name='Petey'][quote name='ghoti'][quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate']

I hate Iguodola.</p>


So overrated. </p>

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Yes, but it was thanks to that same overratedness that the sixers went 20-16 in the games he played in after AI left. </p>

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That's what happens when you are the only crappy team not tanking. False hope.</p>

<font color="#ffffff">Thanks ghoti</font> </p>

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Bingo.</p>

Meet Gerald Wallace. </p>

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He had similar numbers the year before.</p>

-Petey </p>

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Bobcats don't tank.</p>

 

[GrandKenyon6]

My team is unstoppable.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

You dont have another pick until the 8th round though right? Unless if you plan on these guys playing 45 minutes a night, and somehow a good player falling to the 8th round who can play SG, I think your team can be beat.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

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Right up your alley. (or Hinrich's alley)</p>

 

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrandKenyon6)</div><div class='quotemain'>My team is unstoppable.</div>Wait, you picked again? I thought it was rebelsun or charles's turn. </p>

Im confuddled...</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Rebelsun picks, then charles traded his pick to GK6.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

I'm fairly confident I can fill out my bench with good players in the later rounds and I'm pretty sure I can find a serviceable 2 guard at any point in the draft.

 

[Денг Гордон]

You couldn't have taken Hinrich at 41...could you have...grr

 

[lukewarmplay]

[quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate']

I hate Iguodola.</p>

So overrated. </p>

[/QUOTE] </p>

Yes, but it was thanks to that same overratedness that the sixers went 20-16 in the games he played in after AI left. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

That's what happens when you are the only crappy team not tanking. False hope.</p>

<font color="#ffffff">Thanks ghoti</font> </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

True, most teams did start tanking with 40 games left. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

Most of the 76ers success was finally ridding themselves of AI, gaining a legit PF in Joe Smith (they literally had no-one before that...Steven Hunter? wtf?), and finally getting a PG who could run the offense in Andre Miller. Iguodola also benefited from Miller who throws the best lobs in the league, seeing as though Iggy can jump out the gym. He's INCREDIBLY overrated as a defender, too. He also averaged damn near 4 turnovers per game. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

While some of that is true- Miller's a capable pg, Smith comes somewhere near approximating a legit pf, Iguodala averaged near 4 to's post-AI - the fact is he was the star of a team that immediately started playing .500 ball post-AI with a very weak cast, and averaged something like 20/6/6.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

[quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate'][quote name='lukewarmplay'][quote name='Kid Chocolate']

I hate Iguodola.</p>

So overrated. </p>

[/QUOTE] </p>

Yes, but it was thanks to that same overratedness that the sixers went 20-16 in the games he played in after AI left. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

That's what happens when you are the only crappy team not tanking. False hope.</p>

<font color="#ffffff">Thanks ghoti</font> </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

True, most teams did start tanking with 40 games left. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

Most of the 76ers success was finally ridding themselves of AI, gaining a legit PF in Joe Smith (they literally had no-one before that...Steven Hunter? wtf?), and finally getting a PG who could run the offense in Andre Miller. Iguodola also benefited from Miller who throws the best lobs in the league, seeing as though Iggy can jump out the gym. He's INCREDIBLY overrated as a defender, too. He also averaged damn near 4 turnovers per game. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

While some of that is true- Miller's a capable pg, Smith comes somewhere near approximating a legit pf, Iguodala averaged near 4 to's post-AI - the fact is he was the star of a team that immediately started playing .500 ball post-AI with a very weak cast, and averaged something like 20/6/6.</p>

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When AI was out and Iguodola was the star, they went 0-8. </p>

Watching Iguodola all year, he is just very overrated, and not someone I would want as a main piece on my team.</p>

 

[GrandKenyon6]

My team will be impossible to score on and rebound against.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Until Okafor herniates 10 discs in his back at once.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

Heh.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I willing to listen to offers for Michael Redd

 

[Real]

Thoughts on Manu Ginboli.</p>

And no, I am not trying to collect the San Antonio Spurs.</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Good pick.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

Good pick.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

GK6 wants to be Kid Chocolate.

 

[Dark Defender]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate)</div><div class='quotemain'>GK6 wants Kid Chocolate.</div></p>

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fixed.</p>

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[Kid Chocolate]

Well that's true also. He keeps asking me a/s/l and to cyber with him. Creeping me out.

 

[Jonah]

What do you think of my pick of Artest at 56. I think it's a steal</p>

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Nowitzki/Artest..nice duo</p>