First S2 NBA GM Draft Peer Evaluation of Teams

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Thoughts on my team?</p>

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Billups</p>

Giricek</p>

Posey/Maggete</p>

JO</p>

Nene/Nesterovic </p>

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Not sure what Giricek's doing on the team, let alone in the starting line-up. Outside of that, it seems pretty solid. I actually like the way it all fits together. It's going to be tough to pick up a bench of any signifigance, tho. </p>

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</div></p>Giricek is practically my only option at sg currently(Maggete and posey cant), but he is good at what he does best-shooting. Hopefully benching Maggete would help my bench scoring. Got enough of that in the starting unit. Also, if i draft sg who can shoot and defend effectively this late in the draft, then Giricek could find himself on the bench.

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[lukewarmplay]

Why can't Posey play the 2?

 

[zєяσ]

He is best utilized as a 3. He is not quick enough to guard the sg spot, and he is a bit tall for that position(6'7-6'8).</p>

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Edit: And voila! I found a sg who could guard and shoot in Eddie Jones; which leads Giricek going to the bench, giving it a nice shooting touch. </p>

 

[Premier]

Posey and Maggette at small forward and Eddie Jones and Gordon Giricek at shooting guard? Your two best wing players are not going to receive more than twenty six minutes. A wing player is a wing player is a wing player. Play Mags at shooting guard.

 

[TucsonClip]

Starting Posey and Eddie over Maggette makes no sense.

 

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Premier)</div><div class='quotemain'>Posey and Maggette at small forward and Eddie Jones and Gordon Giricek at shooting guard? Your two best wing players are not going to receive more than twenty six minutes. A wing player is a wing player is a wing player. Play Mags at shooting guard.</div></p>

The thing with Maggete is that he wont be as effective with the other players in the starting lineup. Billups and JO are going to get their touches, and Nene is there to pick up their misses. Jones and Posey provide defense and will hit the open shot unlike maggete. Maggete is very talented offensively and will get his touches from playing with the bench.</p>

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I still have a lot of moves to make in order to make this team gel. Currently, i must admit that my team is a bit of a mess at the wing positions. As you already pointed out, Maggete would at the least be playing 26 minutes per game with this team. But i can still make some moves to clear things up.</p>

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But right now, defensively speaking, my team isnt half bad. Posey, Billups and Jones are good defenders that can shoot, and JO and Nene are talented post players who have a nag for blocking shots.</p>

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[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TucsonClip)</div><div class='quotemain'>Starting Posey and Eddie over Maggette makes no sense.</div>

My reasoning for benching Maggete here so he can work his offense freely with the bench. In the starting lineup, he wouldnt have as much freedom to do so. Besides, he would be playing around 25-30 mpg, not around 10-20 like some other players on the bench. But as i stated above, i still have some moves to make to smooth things out at the wing positions. Until i draft some more players for my bench I might just bench Posey instead. </p>

 

[speeds]

Does anybody think the last-picked team could find it's way into the top dozen or so?</p>

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Baron Davis, Sarunas Jasikevicius</p>

Quentin Richardson, Willie Green</p>

Luol Deng, Carlos Delfino</p>

David Lee, Brandan Wright</p>

Samuel Dalembert, Nazr Mohammed</p>

 

[Premier]

I really don't think that you have a playoff team, speedy.

 

[pegs]

It'd be a fun team to watch tho, no doubt.

 

[GMJ]

Anyone have a new opinion of my team after I added veteran scorer Corey Maggette?</p>

Foye
Bryant
Maggette/Yi
Rasheed/Antoine Walker
Shelden</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Anyone have a new opinion of my team after I added veteran scorer Corey Maggette?</p>

Foye
Bryant
Maggette/Yi
Rasheed/Antoine Walker
Shelden</p></div>

</p> i don't have much faith in Shelden at C and Foye at PG. but hey, that's just me.

 

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (speeds)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Does anybody think the last-picked team could find it's way into the top dozen or so?</p>

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Baron Davis, Sarunas Jasikevicius</p>

Quentin Richardson, Willie Green</p>

Luol Deng, Carlos Delfino</p>

David Lee, Brandan Wright</p>

Samuel Dalembert, Nazr Mohammed </p>

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Not much from the bench. Then again, i dont know a lot about this rookie class, so setting aside Wright, the bench is lacking imo.</p>

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[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (speeds)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Does anybody think the last-picked team could find it's way into the top dozen or so?</p>

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Baron Davis, Sarunas Jasikevicius</p>

Quentin Richardson, Willie Green</p>

Luol Deng, Carlos Delfino</p>

David Lee, Brandan Wright</p>

Samuel Dalembert, Nazr Mohammed </p></div>

Your backcourt is a huge injury risk, and Sarunas hasn't shown that he can play on an NBA level on 2 teams. If everyone stayed healthy, then my presumption would be that it is a playoff team, but that's a huge if, and the bench is pretty crappy. </p>

 

[tim]

What do you think of my team.</p>

C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
PF - Jeff Green
SF - LeBron James
SG - Brandon Roy
PG - Luke Ridnour</p>

Bench
Craig Smith
Brevin Knight
Trenton Hassell
Dikembe Mutombo</p>

 

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tim)</div><div class='quotemain'>

What do you think of my team.</p>

C - Zydrunas IlgauskasPF - Jeff GreenSF - LeBron JamesSG - Brandon RoyPG - Luke Ridnour</p>

BenchCraig SmithBrevin KnightTrenton HassellDikembe Mutombo</p>

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Its much better than the team Lebron has in real life!

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I cant really say how good/bad this is due to the fact i dont really know how good Green and Smith are. Aside from them, the starting lineup isnt bad, but the bench needs more shooting/offense </p>

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Btw, how about mine? I know ghoti's opinion already.

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<font size="2">NY Knicks S2 GM Draft:</font><font size="2"></font>C-NenePF-J.O'NealSF-PoseySG-E.JonesPG-Billups</p>

BENCH:Giricek(SG)Diop&copy;M.Collins(PG/SG)House(PG/SG)Graham(SF)Nesterovic(PF/C)</p>

 

[Real]

Thoughts on my team so far.</p>

PG-T.J. Ford/Derek Fisher</p>

SG-Manu Ginobili/Sasha Pavlovic</p>

SF-Grant Hill/Michael Finley</p>

PF-Tim Duncan/P.J. Brown</p>

C-Brad Miller/Jason Collins</p>

 

[zєяσ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Thoughts on my team so far.</p>

PG-T.J. Ford/Derek Fisher</p>

SG-Manu Ginobili/Sasha Pavlovic</p>

SF-Grant Hill/Michael Finley</p>

PF-Tim Duncan/P.J. Brown</p>

C-Brad Miller/Jason Collins</p></div>

I love your team Real. Great veteran leadership and a great big man duo(Duncan/Miller). You got go-to scorers in duncan and Manu.</p>

The frontcourt is also very good defensively. The backcourt is good defensively as well but the frontcourt is better. You have good veteran wings in Hill and Finley. Pavlovic was a great pick up for the bench. Deep bench thus far and it can score AND defend. The starting lineup is very balanced as well with the exception of Ford imo.</p>

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My only knocks on your team is the age and that Ford is your pg. Ford is best used on the fastbreak, but looking at the rest of the personnel of your team, their wont be anyone running with him.</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Thoughts on my team so far.</p>

PG-T.J. Ford/Derek Fisher</p>

SG-Manu Ginobili/Sasha Pavlovic</p>

SF-Grant Hill/Michael Finley</p>

PF-Tim Duncan/P.J. Brown</p>

C-Brad Miller/Jason Collins</p></div>

I love your team Real. Great veteran leadership and a great big man duo(Duncan/Miller). You got go-to scorers in duncan and Manu.</p>

The frontcourt is also very good defensively. The backcourt is good defensively as well but the frontcourt is better. You have good veteran wings in Hill and Finley. Pavlovic was a great pick up for the bench. Deep bench thus far and it can score AND defend. The starting lineup is very balanced as well with the exception of Ford imo.</p>

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My only knocks on your team is the age and that Ford is your pg. Ford is best used on the fastbreak, but looking at the rest of the personnel of your team, their wont be anyone running with him. </p> </div>

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you've got a killer frontcourt there. two great passing big men...although it'd be nice to have another great 3 point shooter, but i'm sure you could pick one up soon. </p>

and seems as if there's great defense all-around, with the exception of the PG position, which probably doesn't matter with Duncan down low anyways.</p>

i agree with L, tho, the biggest knock on your team is its oldness.</p>

 

[ZAE]

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p>

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You have some defensive issues that are mostly solved by Ben Wallace.</p>

If Cassell can give you anything and Wallace stays healthy, you've got a championship contender there.</p>

FWIW, your team would beat Real's team 9 out of every 10.</p>

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[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p></div>

</p> very impressive. solid at every position, with starters and backup. the only problem i see is Cassel's injury proneness and the lack of a 3rd backup point guard. (i guess that could be John Salmons)

 

[ZAE]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p>

</div></p>

You have some defensive issues that are mostly solved by Ben Wallace.</p>

If Cassell can give you anything and Wallace stays healthy, you've got a championship contender there. </p>

FWIW, your team would beat Real's team 9 out of every 10.</p>

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</p> Just what I was looking for

 

[Denny Crane]

And Petey's team 11 times out of 10, just using your bench.</p>

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[ZAE]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p></div>

</p> very impressive. solid at every position, with starters and backup. the only problem i see is Cassel's injury proneness and the lack of a 3rd backup point guard. (i guess that could be John Salmons)</div>

</p> Yeah thats what I picked Salmons for (bigger back up PG for a change of pace), he is primarily a 2 but I can play him at the 1-4, which I love about him.

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven HunterPF - Kevin Garnett / Dan GadzuricSF - Rashard Lewis / Mike DunleavySG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell WebsterPG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p>

</div></p>

You have some defensive issues that are mostly solved by Ben Wallace.</p>

If Cassell can give you anything and Wallace stays healthy, you've got a championship contender there. </p>

FWIW, your team would beat Real's team 9 out of every 10.</p>

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Perhaps you're confusing Ben Wallace with Ben Wallace of t-2, if the unit of t is years? I can't claim to have seen him much last year, but he seems to have had a steep decline, and that's apart from not being a team player at all at the end with the Pistons. I'd have liked to see a better backup c here.</p>

 

[Dark Defender]

C - Tyson Chandler/Brian Cook
PF - Boris Diaw/Chuck Hayes
SF - Andres Nocioni/James Jones
SG - Dorell Wright/Greg Buckner
PG - Deron Williams/Daniel Gibson</p>

Thoughts?</p>

 

[ly_yng]

Your Golden State Warriors:</p>

<font size="2" color="#000000">PG - Leandro "Speedy" Barbosa / Rajon "Swiss Army" RondoSG - Bobby "Silk" Simmons / Thabo "Swiss Army" SefoloshaSF - Shane "Lockdown" Battier / </font><font size="2" color="#000000">Eduardo "El Tejon" </font><font size="2" color="#000000">NajeraPF - Jorge "Garbo" Garbajosa / </font><font size="2" color="#000000">Jason "Fade" SmithC - </font><font size="2" color="#000000">"Big" Al Jefferson / </font><font size="2" color="#000000">Kyrylo "Mouth" Fesenko / Greg "Don't Call Me Sam" Oden</font> </p>

It's tough when you lose your first round pick for the year, but I really only had him slotted for 20 mpg or so this year. Battier, Simmons, Barbosa and Garbo are all killer shooters from the outside, and I think they'll complement Jefferson nicely. I also think I've got a lot of defensive tenacity on this team, between Simmons, Battier, Garbo, Fesenko, Najera, Thabo and Rondo.</p>

What do you guys think about my chances this year? Did the Oden injury kill all hope?</p>

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3)</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Tyson Chandler/Brian CookPF - Boris Diaw/Chuck Hayes SF - Andres Nocioni/James Jones SG - Dorell Wright/Greg Buckner PG - Deron Williams/Daniel Gibson</p>

Thoughts? </p></div>

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I didn't realize just how terrible Boris Diaw is until I realized he was struggling to compete in Eurobasket, which is being dominated by the likes of Saras Jasikevicus and Victor Khryapa. Diaw wasn't even the 3rd or 4th best player on his own team. Nash makes everyone around him look 100% better than they actually are, and Diaw doesn't even look that good in Phoenix.</p>

Deron Williams is a great PG though, and should help. You've got a really thin frontline, going off body weight, not depth, so that should make playing defence hard. You better pray that Wright grows by leaps and bounds, because if not, you've got two pretty weak starters. Not a huge fan of your bench either, although I do like Gibson a lot. </p>

You're going to have a lot of trouble competing with Philly, Boston and Toronto in your division. It would be really hard for this team to make the playoffs.</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Z&AElig</div><div class='quotemain'>

C - Ben Wallace / Steven Hunter
PF - Kevin Garnett / Dan Gadzuric
SF - Rashard Lewis / Mike Dunleavy
SG - Morris Peterson / John Salmons / Martell Webster
PG - Raymond Felton / Sam Cassell</p>

Thoughts so far? </p></div>

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very impressive. solid at every position, with starters and backup. the only problem i see is Cassel's injury proneness and the lack of a 3rd backup point guard. (i guess that could be John Salmons)</div></p>

You don't need a real PG with Dunleavy on the floor. He can play with Mo Pete and Salmons and you can run the offense through him.</p>

You won't want to do that for major minutes, but it's fine if the matchups dictate it or you just want to steal some minutes for Felton and Cassell. You have to be cautious with both of them.</p>

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