First Sheed, then ZBo, now Aldridge...

[KingSpeed]

It's amazing how Blazer fans keep turning on their top power forwards. Sheed got us to two WCFs and was run out of town, with everyone clamoring for ZBo who was "playing like a real PF." In Sheed's last year, everyone talked about how much they preferred ZBo. Then, only a few years later, everyone says they want Aldridge instead. Now, it's Hickson. Some of us are never happy.

 

[ABM]

I LOVED Z-Bo's play! Wish we had a clone of him.....strictly on-court.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I think if Z-bo was like Aldridge off the court, he'd still be here with Durant, LMA and what's left of Roy's knees. Unfortunately, he wasn't. And NYK and LAC didn't think so, either.

 

[KingSpeed]

I think if Z-bo was like Aldridge off the court, he'd still be here with Durant, LMA and what's left of Roy's knees. Unfortunately, he wasn't. And NYK and LAC didn't think so, either.

NY and LAC, like us, were horrible organizations at the time, making horrible decisions. Saying that those fuckups made bad decisions doesn't excuse us. Knicks, Clippers, and Blazers didn't realize what they had.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Z-bo's off the court behavior was excusable. He also piled up stats but wasn't a good team mate. Now I liked Wallace.

 

[BrianFromWA]

NY and LAC, like us, were horrible organizations at the time, making horrible decisions. Saying that those fuckups made bad decisions doesn't excuse us. Knicks, Clippers, and Blazers didn't realize what they had.

Or, they realized that they had a serial-bad-decision-making, raping, drug-running guy who liked owning a posse more than playing quality basketball. I'm glad that Z-bo's not in jail or dead and playing well, but let's not pretend for a second that the ball he's playing right now wipes out the memory of what he was doing off the court for the better part of a decade.

 

[KingSpeed]

What the fuck? Serial rapist? I guess I could call you a serial rapist too. It'd be about the same thing.

 

[BrianFromWA]

fixed, and you could call me whatever you want, but I've never had to explain to a judge why my dick was up a girl's ass without her permission.

 

[KingSpeed]

ZBo is not a convicted rapist.

 

[KingSpeed]

He also has not run drugs. He'd be in jail for that.

 

[BrianFromWA]

are you trolling right now, or do you really want be to bring up police and news reports about these things?

 

[Nikolokolus]

I liked Sheed quite a bit, but he wanted out and they granted his wish. As for LaMarcus I hope we keep him. He looks like he's not all that healthy right now, but I suspect he'll get healthy in due course ... like next year after they add another lottery pick to this motley crew.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Z-bo's off the court behavior was excusable. He also piled up stats but wasn't a good team mate. Now I liked Wallace.

He never had a team

{Poasted via palm pilot}

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i cant wait to run cody zeller noel out of town

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

He never had a team

{Poasted via palm pilot}

True. He had a posse. HAHAHAHA!!

 

[BigGameDamian]

I remember just a few years back a lot of fans wanted the Blazers to deal Aldridge to the Rapters for Chris Bosh.

 

[KingSpeed]

I liked Sheed quite a bit, but he wanted out and they granted his wish. As for LaMarcus I hope we keep him. He looks like he's not all that healthy right now, but I suspect he'll get healthy in due course ... like next year after they add another lottery pick to this motley crew.

Link please. As I remember it, Rasheed said he liked Porrland and wanted to say in every interview I ever watched or read. We were playing great basketball (we had won 8 of 10) when we traded him.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think trading Aldridge for the right package could be beneficial to our future.... I don't see how that's "running him out of town". If we could deal him for a couple of pieces that fit our core, I say do it. Hickson is good enough to lessen the sting of losing Aldridge.

To be clear:

Aldridge > Hickson

But Aldridge also is older and has more trade value

We need more than just five players... and right now that's practically all we have.

 

[blazedanugz]

THANK YOU for creating this thread. its so true....everybody shut up and let the guy play. none of you have any idea what goes on behind the scenes...except maybe HCP but ill bet you he agrees with me

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

address some real needs then.

Starting Center. Bench. That's all we need to do really....unless we're trading Aldridge for a great starting center in the league, don't bother trading him for some shitty "prospects" that will never ever ever make an allstar team.

I don't think Hickson is a starting PF in this league.

A lot of good will be done by getting Hickson to the bench to be a backup PF for Aldridge...get him some rest...and having a real Center in there.

Another good thing would be to get an upgrade at the 2 guard.....

as bad as the blazers have been playing, there isn't really the need to blow up the team as we need a few pieces...and we have the cap space and flexibility to make those moves to get to the next level. Freaking out and chasing out the 2nd best PF in the league for scraps and draft picks isn't the way to go here...it rarely is.

 

[Natebishop3]

THANK YOU for creating this thread. its so true....everybody shut up and let the guy play. none of you have any idea what goes on behind the scenes...except maybe HCP but ill bet you he agrees with me

What does "behind the scenes" have to do with anything? I think a lot of us want to trade him because we have so many holes and trading him could fill a lot of holes.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What does "behind the scenes" have to do with anything? I think a lot of us want to trade him because we have so many holes and trading him could fill a lot of holes.

by diluting talent and having our starting lineup look like our bench? We don't need to dilute the talent on the team, we need some real contributers and go-to guys.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

as bad as people make LA to be, he's still 7th in the league in scoring....takes about as many shots as the other guys in the top 10 in scoring...only PF in the top 24 scoring leaders (Love will be there once he's qualified). These trades are motherfucking laughable.

sorry they just are. Like I said, if you want the starting lineup to start looking like the bench, go ahead and start trading Aldridge away for "young talent" and draft picks. A lot of y'all are obsessed with undeveloped talent for god knows whatever reason.

Its just the Blazers fan mentality to chase the centerpiece of the team away when the going is a bit rough. Has been since I've been a blazers fan.

 

[STOMP]

What does "behind the scenes" have to do with anything? I think a lot of us want to trade him because we have so many holes and trading him could fill a lot of holes.

trading Lillard could fill a lot of holes too, but he's the new guy... maybe next year

STOMP

 

[KingSpeed]

I think trading Aldridge for the right package could be beneficial to our future.... I don't see how that's "running him out of town". If we could deal him for a couple of pieces that fit our core, I say do it. Hickson is good enough to lessen the sting of losing Aldridge.

To be clear:

Aldridge > Hickson

But Aldridge also is older and has more trade value

We need more than just five players... and right now that's practically all we have.

Plus Myers Leonard. We're basically 6 or 5.75 players.

 

[Natebishop3]

trading Lillard could fill a lot of holes too, but he's the new guy... maybe next year

STOMP

We have depth at forward right now..... we have zero depth at guard. Outside of Lillard and Matthews, we have.... who? Price? Barton? Smith? JJ Hickson isn't chopped liver. The guy has put up All-Star caliber numbers as a starter. He's basically averaging a double double right now playing out of position.

Damian Lillard is an All-Star caliber point guard in a league that favors All-Star caliber guards. LaMarcus Aldridge is a jump shooting power forward. Enough said.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Gerald Wallace was a All-Star, 16/7/3 guy taking way fewer shots than LMA...once he got a little more inefficient our brain trust just traded him away. Why'd we run him out of town for only a stupid mid-lotto pick in a crappy draft? THat's what sets this franchise back...

 

[jlprk]

as bad as people make LA to be, he's still 7th in the league in scoring....takes about as many shots as the other guys in the top 10 in scoring...only PF in the top 24 scoring leaders (Love will be there once he's qualified).

That's the crux of the Aldridge problem. His self-conception is as a scorer. There is a reason for why PFs are rarely big scorers. It's that so few are like Love, who can be real PFs who put up great rebounding numbers, while they score. Aldridge isn't a real PF. He's a wannabe Channing Frye. His priorities are screwed up because his head is.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I for one am not turning on Aldridge, but I think long term the franchise would be in better shape if they traded him for young prospects and draft picks.

 

[STOMP]

We have depth at forward right now..... we have zero depth at guard. Outside of Lillard and Matthews, we have.... who? Price? Barton? Smith? JJ Hickson isn't chopped liver. The guy has put up All-Star caliber numbers as a starter. He's basically averaging a double double right now playing out of position.

Damian Lillard is an All-Star caliber point guard in a league that favors All-Star caliber guards. LaMarcus Aldridge is a jump shooting power forward. Enough said.

For Bigs outside of JJ and LA, the Blazers have Freeland, Leonard, & Claver... they are as thin there as anywhere. JJ Hickson is on as many All-Star ballots as Wesley. He's fresh off of an off-season where he generated little interest following being released by dreadful Sacramento. He struggles on D vs everyone and his offensive game is primarily limited to putbacks. Regardless of which Big spot he's listed as playing, his role is the same... garbageman on O, ole! on D.

I'm not sure what a league that favors All-Star guards means to you, but it reads like you've just pulled some fresh hyperbole out your ass. The last 3 NBA champion PGs are Mario Chalmers, a 37 year old Jason Kidd & Derrick Fisher. The last 3 NBA champion PFs are Chris Bosh, Dirk & Pau. None of those three PGs made the All-Star game the year their team won it but conversely all three PFs were honored in their year. Bosh, Dirk & Pau are also all jump shooting PFs and LA is an actual All-Star. I can also recall him leading the league in dunks by a wide margin when he played with a real playmaking PG. btw...Enough said (or the even worse 'Nuff said) invariably seems to cap a really stupid post... it's like a finishing dollop of poo

Personally I'm in favor of trading anyone as long as it improves the team... go laundry! No doubt that Portland's two best player assets are their starting PG and PF. Both seem to be quality people as well as players. Both of their trade values should increase the next year as LA regains his health/game and Lillard learns the league and physically matures. The two of them should also develop better chemistry, further raising their trade values. I don't merely want to patch some holes to be competitive in games. For me it's either you're a contender or you're not. As such, barring a better trade then I've read on these boards I'm in favor of trudging on through this season, letting their assets improve and reassessing things in the offseason. I know thats going to drive some crazy in this instant gratification society of ours... oh well

STOMP